NT 019 - Elven Hood
Ep. 19

NT 019 - Elven Hood

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Happy 2026 everyone! Please send us some feedback to let us know what you want to hear more of this year!

What happens when a renegade elf seeks justice for the poor? You get Elven Hood, an elf who robs from the rich and gives to the poor.

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hello everybody it is 2026

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happy new year sir happy new

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year so are you excited for the

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new

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year no why not uh because you

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get to be older okay i mean is

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that necessarily a negative or

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it means

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that you get to die more you

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get to die more yeah i mean

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that's an interesting way of

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looking at life

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i guess i mean every second is

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really a second closer to death

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regardless of where you are in

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your life so you're not wrong

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do you have any plans for the

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the new year sir get a job get

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a job you bum

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so you're gonna get a job

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hopefully hopefully and thus

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starts your giving the u.s

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government your

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one million dollars of lifetime

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value yeah and productivity and

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whatnot that's that's the goal

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anyway uh yeah my my goal for

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2026 right now is hopefully to

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to move later this year we'll

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see how

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that goes but that's the goal

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yeah that's the plan anyway so

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we survived the holidays we

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hope that you

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enjoyed or at least were mildly

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amused by our two bonus

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episodes i am still partial to

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the

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jedi being cut in half by

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lightsabers i still think that

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that is the ultimate expression

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of jedi and the

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sith too i mean really they all

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need to be cut in half with a

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lightsaber especially under the

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reign of

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disney just saying you know i i

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just thought of what the

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purpose of double-bladed lightsabers

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is you

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could cut twice as many people

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in half yeah exactly

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well we have survived the

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holidays we hope you all did as

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so i was thinking all right we've

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gotten through the holidays oh

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no you were thinking yes i know

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it's a dangerous pastime but we

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got through the holidays and

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you know generally in the

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united states

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the primary holiday is of

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course christmas there there

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are others out there don't get

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me wrong there's

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also hanukkah three kings day kwanzaa

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yule uh there's a bunch of

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different holidays that fall

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within the

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same time period mostly because

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they're all based upon the

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winter solstice but that said

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so we went through our phase of

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getting the the cacophony of

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stuff we've we've all gotten

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our stuff now

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and it got me to thinking okay

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so you have the myth of santa

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claus

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which by the way the current

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version of santa claus as we

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know him is largely driven by

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coca-cola

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that's not a joke uh based

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loosely on the original

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character or person of um sinterklaas

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or paranoel

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etc etc which probably also has

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roots staying back to paganism

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and all sorts of things all

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right fine

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regardless magical somewhat

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deity-like creature has

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delivered our gifts

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and it got me to thinking we

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get all this stuff and i know i'm

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grateful for the stuff that i

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get i

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know kit is generally grateful

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for the stuff that he gets

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although i wouldn't put those

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words in his mouth

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you are grateful right sir

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but but we have this santa claus

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guy and i know that there's

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rules the rule is he makes a

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list and

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he checks it twice to see who's

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naughty and nice and and he

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watches you as you see stalks

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you using elf on

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the shelf all right he sees you

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when you're sleeping he knows

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when you're awake all right the

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santa guy is

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kind of creepy luckily we we

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will for the time being presume

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he is altruistic he's just keep

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he's not looking at

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you when you're like in states

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of undress he's not looking at

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you in creepy ways he he's just

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making

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sure that you know he gets a

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general sense of your behavior

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i mean it technically only says

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that he sees

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you when you're sleeping he

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just says that he knows when

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you're awake yeah exactly he

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knows when you're

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awake that doesn't mean that he

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is watching you when you're

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awake anyway but you know i got

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to thinking

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the whole present versus cold

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thing is a sham and here's why

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i say that as a kid i was an

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asshole

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if you were to gauge my

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behavior on a scale of like you

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know naughty or nice i mean i

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didn't do

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my school work i was a pain in

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the ass to my parents even more

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so than normal and i was i was

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a dick to my sister and that

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was constant this wasn't like

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an occasional thing that this

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was my

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normal way of being as a kid

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and do you know what i never

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got coal coal i still got

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presents some years

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i got more than others and you

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know it just strikes me that santa's

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gotten lazy with his compliance

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you know everybody has to have

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compliance yeah because if you

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don't drive compliance of your

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processes and policies then

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people will just do whatever

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the heck they want if you're a

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kid

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and you were not good and you

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get presents anyway then what

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does that teach you uh you can

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do whatever

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you want you can do whatever

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you want all right so that's

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one issue is that the whole

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coal versus

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present thing has gone by the

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wayside and santa claus has

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really gotten complacent that's

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problem

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one but we have a second

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problem it's not just the coal

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all right that's problem one is

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compliance

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or lack thereof to the original

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paradigm but the second issue

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is wealth inequality

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all right as we all know the

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middle class zone is slowly but

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surely becoming

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just paycheck to paycheck

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versus what normally would have

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paid the bills perfectly fine

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just 10 years ago

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yeah and so the middle class is

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shrinking the rich are getting

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richer the poor are getting

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poorer

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and those rich asshole kids

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just get like endless gifts

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like they get so much stuff

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they get a new game

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system every year they get

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generalizing yeah they get all

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their fancy little tiny cars

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yeah they get the

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you know the new the latest iphone

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the latest android the latest

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the latest drones the latest uh

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you know

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three thousand dollar robot

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dogs really they get so much

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stuff and then they don't end

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up using any of it

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it's like oh we got all this

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stuff i'm gonna play with one

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thing and then everything else

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like kind of

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gets ignored or whatever please

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note that that is that this is

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not a true representation of

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all rich

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kids yes exactly and also i

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will say that rich entitled

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kids tend to be assholes again

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as the stereotype as

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the stereotype this is not

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necessarily saying that this is

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what we truly believe of all

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rich kids it's just

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saying that the stereotype is

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you have rich kids that get

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given everything and they're snotty

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little assholes

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so where am i going with this

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so we have two problems we have

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a lack of compliance on the on

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the part of

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this so-called santa claus and

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we also have asshole kids that

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have too much stuff

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and we have poor kids that don't

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like they get like you know a

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box with bubble wrap and that's

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their gift

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you know well no not really i

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mean a lot of less fortunate

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kids are able to get toys

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through like toy

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funds and things like that but

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yeah it's unfortunate you know

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it really is now we're going to

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get into the

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the story idea based upon this

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concept hollywood the deal now

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goes into effect now this is a

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new and

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original idea so we're going to

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we're going to lowball this

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initially but it's going to be

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25 000 for the

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idea plus five percent of the

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gross profits and we we mean

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the gross profits before you do

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any of your

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crazy accounting shenanigans in

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perpetuity across all mediums

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of sale so there's an elf oh

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boy and i think i've come up

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with a title for this uh this

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this story already i'm just not

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sure what the right tone is we're

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gonna call it elven hood

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instead of robin hood it's elven

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hood so you have an elf and the

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elf looks at exactly what i'm

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talking about

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which is he's seeing this

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disparity between rich and poor

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and asshole kids and good kids

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and he's seeing

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that things aren't quite quite

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right you know that everybody's

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really getting presents nobody

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gets cold

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and there's you know the kids

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that are rich i mean santa's

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favoring the kids that are rich

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for some reason

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and that's not right and so of

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course he does what you're

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supposed to do he tries to

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follow the chain of command

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so first he goes to like the

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the head elf for his department

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all right let's come up with an

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elf name before we get started

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let's give this guy a name

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i feel like it should start

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with grin grin yeah it should

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start with that uh grin tea

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too short grindendorf grinendorf

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that sounds like it's from lord

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of the rings grinendorf it's it's

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like

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the bad guy from from zelda but

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with a big grin on his face

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grinendorf i mean we can't use

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grindelwald

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because that's that oh no i

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said it oh no copyright oh no

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oh no uh grinsky i mean that's

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it's a polish elf

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we're good grinsky okay okay so

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we have grinsky this is so dumb

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all right grinsky goes to his

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like line

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foreman oh i thought i thought

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you were saying the uh the head

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elf name no no no the main

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character oh

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uh well now the main character

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is grinsky well but that might

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not fit it doesn't matter it is

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now

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grinsky so anyway grinsky goes

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to his his supervisor manager

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and says hey you know i'm

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looking at the gift

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piles and i'm seeing that the

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gift piles for the rich kids

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are bigger than the gift piles

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for the small kids

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and a lot of these rich kids

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aren't that good we should do

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something about it and and the

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head elf is

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like yeah but that's bad for

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business what business we don't

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make any money the business of

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bringing cheer

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and joy to the world of course

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right so he's not too happy

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with that answer and he kind of

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ponders it

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You know, we should give him an

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animal sidekick.

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Oh no. What type of animal

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should he have?

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I mean it's gotta be something

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that can survive in warmer climates

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anyway, because eventually

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he's gonna be going other

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places. Can a snow fox survive

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in warmer climates? Yeah, I

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think so. So snow fox, what are

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we gonna call the snow fox?

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Gotta give it a good name. You

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know what, let's call it Fundy.

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We can do that. We can and we

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just did. Come at me Fundy.

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Look, we're advertising for

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Fundy. These are temporary

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names. We're advertising for

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Fundy here. Look, the studios

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can change it later, but in the

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meantime, Fundy, Minecraft

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YouTuber extraordinaire, watch

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him. Anyway, this is not

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sponsored by Fundy, but if Fundy

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ever listened to this, it'd be

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awesome. You know what, that'd

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be even better.

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It's a talking arctic fox or

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snow fox voiced by Fundy. That

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would be amazing. Alright, so

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we have this snow fox or arctic

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fox. Grinsky goes back to his

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room and he's like saying, you

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know, Fundy, I still don't feel

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like this is right. You know,

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there are so many people that

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have so little. And, you know,

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Santa is really just...

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continuing the capitalist

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paradigm here.

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By the way, I'm not an anti-capitalist,

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just for the record.

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But it's fun to make fun of

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capitalism. I will say that.

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So I'm not anti-capitalist. I

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just like making fun of it.

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So he starts talking to Fundy,

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and Fundy is just like laying

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there,

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being all nice, as a good pet

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does, feeling bad

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for his master. It's fine.

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What is Grinsky going to do

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next?

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I mean, obviously, we've got to

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go to the CEO of this

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corporation.

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Okay. So...

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Grinsky... Well, first of all,

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though, I think we need a

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montage

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of Grinsky, like, trying...

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Like, draws up some charts.

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He's like, you know what? Maybe

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his boss also says,

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and you know what? You're

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making these allegations, but

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you really have no data

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to back it up. Yeah. Where's

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the evidence?

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Hmm. So we should do this

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montage of him, like, actually

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counting the package count,

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actually looking at the naughty

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and nice lists and seeing how

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the algorithm has changed over

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the years.

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You know, how it went from

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being a manual process where

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they were actually using some

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kind of wizardry to look at

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kids, to where now it's all

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done by AI. Oh, no.

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All right. And then he brings

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all this data. Well, no. In

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that montage, you have to have

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him on the phone with customer

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service.

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That would be that pause moment

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that goes into reality where he's

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on the phone with customer

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service for what? Like,

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delivery for what? Like,

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because customer service...

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What is customer service for

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the elves at the North Pole?

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Hmm. Like, what do they need

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customer service for? They're

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manufacturing the toys. They're

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wrapping the toys. They're

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delivering the toys. I mean,

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you've got to have, like,

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customer service for getting

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the materials for the toys.

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I mean, I guess. You know,

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maybe it's, like, to gauge...

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Maybe they... He's contacting

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customer service to get a hold

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of their, like, numbers for,

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like, complaints and stuff.

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Yeah. Well, fine. But montage

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later, he's gotten all this

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data. He goes back to his boss.

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It's like, look, I have the raw

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data. And his boss basically

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says, well, that's the way we've

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been doing it and that's the

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way we're going to keep doing

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it.

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So he starts going to his other

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elves and none of them seem to

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have an issue with it either.

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What do we do now? The other

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elves are kind of like, yeah,

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maybe something should happen,

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but, like, it's too much work

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and it's just going to get shot

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down by upper management anyway.

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why do we even bother you know

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last time we tried to get an

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idea up to the upper ups they

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they they threatened to

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decrease our uh cocoa supply

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yeah we need our cocoa rations

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like i

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guess for elves cocoa is like

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cocaine you know like they need

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their cocoa damn it it's how

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they

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live eventually he decides he's

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gonna go to the big man himself

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he's gonna go to upper man he

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goes

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thunder crackles he he goes he

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goes to the ceo head head elf

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himself santa claus you know

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and santa

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claus of course we're gonna

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make him like a corporate mogul

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you know that one day of the

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year

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he'll put on this the the the santa

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claus suit but really the rest

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of the year he he's he's

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wearing a

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business suit you know he's

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standing behind you know

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stereotypical like he has an

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office with like a

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very like large looking door

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you're kind of sponsored by coca-cola

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yeah yeah he's got the

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coca-cola images and branding

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you know like like with a big

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like thumbs up with the ceo of

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coca-cola

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next to him you know from the

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marketing deals to use his

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likeness he's got everything

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going on um he's

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got the big mahogany desk mahogany

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mahogany mahogany mahogany see

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if anybody gets that reference

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he's got the

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big mahogany desk he's got his

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like his like black leather

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shoes like propped up on the

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desk smoking a big

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ass cigar from cuba he's

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wearing sunglasses he's wearing

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sunglasses indoors

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yeah he he's the fat cat

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literally and figuratively yeah

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well maybe not quite literally

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he's not a cat but he is very

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large

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so anyway grinsky goes in

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knocks on the door gingerly santa

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doesn't even know who the hell

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he is because he's at the top

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of the corporate chains

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like he can't know every elf

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that is you know in wrapping or

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in production or delivery

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packaging

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whatever like he doesn't know

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any of that he just sees like a

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little elf and he's like

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i mean i i have an open door

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policy but who the hell are you

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yeah i i welcome your feedback

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but so it's like yeah i'm grinty

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or grinsky uh

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uh well that came back quickly

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i'm grinsky and uh sir i've

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noticed some problems with our

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package distribution and and

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you know inequality in the

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package distribution

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and you know he gives the whole

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spiel to santa he provides the

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powerpoint deck

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he gives them the spreadsheets

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he gives them the evidence

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and we're gonna do the stereotypical

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thing where santa's like you

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know you bring up some good

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points

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i'm gonna look over all these

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numbers in this data and take

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it under advisement

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grinsky is like oh thank you

19:57

sir thank you

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and he leaves the minute he

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leaves santa presses the button

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on the intercom

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hey get me a hold of the

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manager for grinsky

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and the next thing you know grinsky

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and and his fox friend fundy

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are getting thrown out

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now grinsky could you know with

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his elf feet cold in the snow

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he could feel defeated and

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initially he does after all he's

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given his entire life to santa

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corp

20:32

he's he's gif all incorporated

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yeah he's trying to work his

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way up from a lowly

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santa letter deliverer in the

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mail room to toy idea or like

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working with the major

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companies like microsoft

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and sony for the xbox and playstation

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you know business relationships

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he's he's really done

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everything

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he can and now he's thrown out

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but what happens well initially

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he's sad but then he gets mad

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if no one else is going to do

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anything about this i will

21:15

and so he begins his journey

21:19

and you know he builds himself

21:24

a workshop

21:25

he builds his own kind of magic

21:28

sled and he decides

21:30

i would say fundy builds the

21:32

sled fundy helps build the sled

21:34

yeah and fundy helps test the

21:35

sled you know

21:36

like you have like a puff of

21:37

smoke that hits him in the face

21:39

and he instead of being an arctic

21:40

fox

21:41

he gets covered with yeah you

21:43

know like that type of stuff

21:45

but we have to pick a date here

21:47

so he doesn't want to interfere

21:49

with santa's delivery of the

21:51

packages because i mean

21:52

he's not going to go up against

21:55

the big man you know not yet

21:57

anyway and eventually he has to

21:59

like

22:00

make a new friend somewhere

22:01

that believes the same as him

22:02

and i don't know who that's

22:03

going to be so

22:04

i'm leaning on you to come up

22:07

with some ideas along the way

22:11

here but so what's a good date

22:14

after

22:15

christmas when grinsky could go

22:20

for his very special ride uh

22:25

the 30th you know yeah that's

22:30

the new year's

22:33

new year's eve eve because

22:35

everybody's going to be awake

22:37

on actual new year's eve yeah

22:40

we can't have that

22:42

but at least this way the the

22:45

impact is going to be felt yeah

22:49

and maybe for the first year he

22:52

only takes

22:53

one major city just to give his

22:57

concept a try so what he's

22:59

going to do is he is going to

23:02

go down the

23:04

chimney of the rich folks

23:07

living in like their upper high

23:10

rises in manhattan you know he's

23:13

going to go into all the

23:16

all the apartments of all the

23:18

kids that have way too much

23:20

stuff and are assholes. And he's

23:24

gonna, you know, shall we say,

23:28

we appropriate the funds. He's

23:32

going to, you know, he'll

23:36

be smart about it. You know, he's

23:38

not gonna take everything. He's

23:40

just gonna take the

23:42

stuff that, you know, that the

23:44

kids are gonna get sick of

23:46

anyway. Well, it's still high-quality

23:49

stuff. I mean, if you have

23:51

three video game systems, well,

23:53

what do you care if one or two

23:55

of them go missing? I mean,

23:57

especially if it's a Steam Deck.

24:00

Like, that Steam Deck can play

24:02

anything. So who really cares

24:04

if you get rid of, like, the

24:06

Xbox and the PlayStation when

24:08

you have the Steam Deck? I mean,

24:11

they're really

24:12

aren't that many PlayStation

24:14

and Xbox exclusives anymore

24:15

anyway. So who cares? Yeah. But

24:18

he starts taking the stuff. And

24:20

then after he's taken the stuff,

24:22

he re-gives it to the less

24:26

fortunate. That were good. And,

24:31

you know what? His test goes

24:34

over pretty well. You know,

24:37

some of the rich kids were a

24:40

little bit disgruntled.

24:42

But many of them didn't even

24:45

notice. And their parents didn't

24:48

notice. It's like huh, we gave

24:52

this kid 20 gifts and now there's

24:55

10 and we don't even notice. So

24:58

test run number one goes uneventfully.

25:04

Yes.

25:06

Do you think Santa's reindeer

25:09

can talk? What do you mean? Do

25:11

you think Santa's reindeer can

25:14

talk? Well who said he's using

25:16

Santa's reindeer? Yeah, no, I'm

25:19

just asking for side characters.

25:22

I don't know that Santa's

25:24

reindeer are really that smart.

25:27

I mean, Rudolph they are. I

25:30

mean, plus, no offense, they've

25:32

already delivered their gifts.

25:33

Why would they know anything

25:35

about it?

25:36

I know, but that is for the

25:38

side character ideas. So do you

25:40

think they could talk or no? So

25:43

tell me how you would work the

25:45

reindeer into it organically.

25:47

Well, I have two ideas for side

25:50

characters. Okay, go. So one is

25:53

a nutcracker that was part of

25:55

like, you know, like the

25:58

management people.

26:00

Or maybe it had like a broken

26:01

arm or something and it was

26:03

disgruntled because it never

26:05

got delivered. Yeah, something

26:07

but I feel like it should have

26:09

been close to Santa at one

26:10

point. Okay, like like the nutcrackers

26:13

are like the Royal Guard or

26:14

something. Okay, that's a

26:17

possibility.

26:21

And then for the reindeer, she

26:23

kicked out because her name

26:25

wasn't catchy at all. Okay, so

26:27

like... It's the dumbest reason.

26:30

Like, like completely. It would

26:33

be bad for marketing. So her

26:34

name is like Broomhilda. Yeah.

26:37

Although that's from Robin Hood

26:39

Men in Tights, but I don't care.

26:41

Her name is Broomhilda. Or just

26:43

Hilda. We call it Hilda for

26:45

short. That's easier.

26:48

Alright, so we have these other

26:49

outcasts that eventually

26:51

somehow hear about things, but...

26:53

Let's go back to Grinsky now.

26:55

So Grinsky's had his first

26:57

successful run. And nobody

26:59

found out about it because it

27:01

was only one city. But, I mean,

27:04

that's... That's all well and

27:06

good. But now we don't really

27:08

have any conflict. He

27:09

successfully did what he wanted

27:11

to do.

27:13

So, where do we run into

27:15

conflict? How do we introduce

27:17

conflict into Grinsky's plan?

27:21

Maybe, maybe he was too willing

27:22

about leaving. Like, he came up

27:25

with the idea before he, like

27:27

right before he got picked out.

27:30

Okay.

27:31

And, and like, his supervisor

27:33

gets suspicious of that. That

27:35

he went too lonely. Like...

27:38

Okay, so... Maybe... You're

27:40

kind of in line with what I'm

27:41

thinking here. So maybe what we

27:43

do is... Now, keep in mind...

27:46

They only did one city. The

27:48

world's got like 9 billion

27:49

people, 10 billion people,

27:51

whatever it is at this point.

27:53

You're talking New York City.

27:54

Yeah, that's millions. But...

27:57

It's not a huge block. Yeah.

28:00

You know, this isn't like he

28:02

did all of Europe or all of the

28:03

United States.

28:05

But...

28:07

Being North Pole Corp...

28:10

They've got some metrics. Yeah.

28:13

And they've got some super like,

28:16

tiny CIA level GPS trackers

28:19

that are embedded into the

28:22

boxes.

28:23

Not into the wrapping paper,

28:24

because the wrapping paper gets

28:26

wrecked and thrown away.

28:27

Yeah.

28:28

But into the actual product

28:30

boxes.

28:31

They've got like this little

28:32

like label or something on them

28:34

that just looks like a sticker.

28:36

But it's actually GPS.

28:39

And so...

28:40

It...

28:41

It just makes...

28:43

A weird blip in the system to

28:45

set up conflict later on.

28:47

Former supervisor...

28:49

Like another elf comes up to

28:50

him, because this guy's a

28:51

supervisor.

28:52

I mean like, he doesn't

28:53

actually do anything.

28:54

Yeah.

28:55

Uh... Sir?

28:57

Uh... Yes?

28:58

We were just looking at the

28:59

analytics dashboard and we

29:00

found something...

29:02

Unusual.

29:03

Well, what do you mean?

29:04

Well, it's just a small anomaly,

29:06

but...

29:07

It looks like some of the

29:08

packages shift locations.

29:11

Yeah.

29:12

Well, like, couldn't that be

29:14

just kids like bringing them to

29:16

their friends' house to play?

29:19

Really, sir?

29:20

Like...

29:21

Five days after Christmas?

29:23

You really think that a bunch

29:25

of kids just went over somebody's

29:27

houses the night before New

29:30

Year's Eve?

29:31

I don't know.

29:32

I'll...

29:33

I'll have to think about it.

29:34

I mean, it is an anomaly, but

29:35

we're really not talking much

29:37

here.

29:38

You know, it's...

29:39

You know, we're talking about a

29:40

percent of a percent.

29:42

I mean, that's not really going

29:44

to impact the Joy Quotient this

29:46

year.

29:48

So...

29:49

We'll keep an eye on it.

29:50

You know, we'll keep an eye on

29:51

it.

29:51

And then...

29:52

Lil' Up goes away.

29:53

And then the manager sits there,

29:55

like, just pondering.

29:57

What the hell would call that

29:59

caused that?

30:00

That's just weird.

30:01

Yeah.

30:02

You know, what would cause this?

30:03

And then, like...

30:04

He's just sitting there for a

30:05

while.

30:06

You have the camera on him for

30:07

a long, long time as he sits

30:09

back in his manager chair.

30:11

And then he snaps forward and

30:12

they do the close-up.

30:16

Grinske!

30:17

Meanwhile, Grinske is trying to

30:20

figure out how to build out his

30:22

operation.

30:24

And, you know, he has a super

30:26

secret location.

30:28

He's got the energy shielding

30:29

to mask the location.

30:31

There's no way Santa's going to

30:33

find him.

30:34

There's no way North Pole Corp

30:35

is going to, like, come back

30:37

and come after him for

30:39

violating his non-disclosure

30:41

agreement and non-compete

30:43

agreement.

30:45

You know, because when you work

30:47

for North Pole Corp, you're not

30:49

even allowed to work for Amazon

30:51

up to a year after working

30:53

there.

30:54

Because they're a toy delivery

30:56

service.

30:57

Yeah.

30:58

That's a competing, you know, a

30:59

competing company.

31:01

You're not allowed.

31:02

And surely...

31:03

No, it has to be something

31:04

ridiculous like 10 years after.

31:06

Fine.

31:08

And surely...

31:10

So, by the way, this clearly is...

31:13

Uh, not only a take on...

31:16

On capitalism...

31:18

And wealth inequality, it's

31:19

also a take on...

31:21

Corporate environment.

31:24

Oh no, Hollywood's never gonna

31:25

buy this.

31:26

We need to make it more

31:27

corporate friendly.

31:29

Well, yeah, but the corporate

31:30

friendly part for them is they're

31:31

gonna make money.

31:33

Yeah.

31:34

Yeah.

31:35

You know?

31:36

Making fun of corporations is

31:37

something that people can get

31:38

behind.

31:39

This is true.

31:40

Wealth inequality is something

31:41

that people can get behind.

31:43

Well...

31:44

You know, the story of a small,

31:45

mild mannered elf...

31:49

Becoming the modern day Robin

31:50

Hood.

31:51

Stealing from the rich.

31:52

Giving to the poor.

31:53

And doing it in such a, you

31:54

know, a way that, you know, isn't

31:57

violent.

32:00

And brings joy to children.

32:02

I mean, think of the children,

32:03

sir.

32:05

This movie can make bank.

32:08

But anyway...

32:09

How do we introduce Hilda and

32:11

Nutcracker Guy?

32:13

So, he's working in his secret

32:14

workshop to really improve his

32:17

theft/delivery system.

32:20

Maybe he starts coming up with

32:21

teleportation stuff so he doesn't

32:23

actually have to go into things.

32:26

I mean, couldn't it be the next

32:27

Christmas that he meets the Nutcracker?

32:32

Or are we only doing two Christmases

32:33

in this movie?

32:36

You know what I think?

32:37

I think we have one of the two

32:39

side characters actually be

32:42

someone to throw a monkey

32:44

wrench in the works.

32:48

Okay?

32:49

So, Hilda is perfectly fine.

32:52

She's just the reindeer that

32:53

got rejected.

32:54

I mean, even Rudolph makes fun

32:55

of her.

32:57

You know, because of her name.

32:59

Evidently, he didn't learn his

33:00

own lesson.

33:02

Yeah.

33:02

You know?

33:03

He became one of the...

33:04

He became like the highest

33:05

person on the reindeer.

33:07

I know, I know.

33:08

It's just...

33:09

It's ridiculous.

33:10

But anyway, so...

33:12

I think Hilda is not our spy.

33:14

I think it makes sense that the

33:15

disgruntled...

33:18

The quote unquote "disgruntled"

33:19

Nutcracker...

33:22

Is the spy.

33:23

...would make sense.

33:24

And I think the way that we do

33:25

things is...

33:26

So, the disgruntled Nutcracker,

33:27

obviously being part of

33:29

security and obviously being

33:30

part of the upper levels...

33:33

He gives Grinsky the API keys

33:36

to be able to access the

33:38

naughty nice list and all of

33:41

the kids' locations and their

33:45

demographics.

33:48

You know, he gets the wealth

33:49

index, which is actually being

33:52

tracked.

33:54

Which he didn't know.

33:55

Like he discovers that when he

33:56

first gets to see the data,

33:57

that there's actually like a

33:58

wealth index.

34:00

Of course there is.

34:02

So, as he's planning his

34:03

teleportation stuff, what he

34:05

doesn't realize...

34:08

Is that the use of these API

34:09

keys...

34:10

These API keys are not the

34:11

master API keys.

34:13

No.

34:14

These are special API keys that

34:15

send his IP address...

34:18

Back to North Pole Core.

34:21

So, they then begin to reverse

34:23

hack into his system to like

34:26

really discover the plans.

34:30

And that's not good.

34:32

So, the year goes on.

34:34

He continues to make his plans.

34:37

There's nothing sketchy coming

34:37

up.

34:39

And the night of the 29th...

34:42

Of what?

34:42

Of January.

34:43

So, Christmas goes by.

34:45

Santa does his big ride.

34:47

And it's the 28th or 29th of

34:49

January.

34:51

And that's when the SWAT team

34:52

shows up.

34:54

So, the SWAT team shows up.

34:57

They break in.

35:00

They get through the magnetic

35:00

shielding.

35:02

They capture everyone.

35:04

And of course, this is when the

35:05

bad guy, like the traitor nutcracker,

35:09

reveals himself.

35:12

Meanwhile, Hilda and the fox

35:14

ran away.

35:16

Because they're just animals.

35:17

Nobody's going to pay attention

35:17

to them.

35:19

Yeah.

35:20

And so, it's not looking good.

35:22

Grinsky's been captured by the

35:23

feds.

35:23

And he's being brought up on

35:27

charges of like espionage and

35:31

theft and all this other stuff.

35:37

He's being captured by the feds.

35:38

He's being captured by the feds.

35:39

He's being captured by the feds.

35:40

He's being captured by the feds.

35:41

He's being captured by the feds.

35:42

He's being captured by the feds.

35:43

He's being captured by the feds.

35:44

He's being captured by the feds.

35:45

He's being captured by the feds.

35:46

These are the real feds.

35:47

These are the North Pole feds.

35:48

They're the elves with attitude.

35:49

Oh.

35:51

Of course.

35:53

And so, he's being held in like

35:55

deep cold storage at the North

35:58

Pole.

36:00

You know, like 50 miles below

36:01

the crust of the earth.

36:04

So, so.

36:05

He's being captured.

36:06

He's being captured.

36:07

You know, like Santa and the,

36:08

the lead, and his former boss

36:10

are like, you know, we're so

36:12

disappointed in you.

36:13

You know, all I wanted to do

36:14

was make Christmas happy for

36:16

everyone.

36:18

That's just not how we do

36:19

things here.

36:22

It's all about the numbers.

36:24

It's all about the joy index.

36:27

Meanwhile, Fox and Hilda, Fundy

36:29

and Hilda,

36:32

trek their way back to the

36:33

North Pole and they,

36:35

now like, I guess we have to

36:36

have them talk because it's

36:37

going to be kind of pointless

36:39

to have them randomly wandering

36:40

around.

36:43

They, they start doing this

36:43

planning.

36:47

They start doing all this

36:47

planning.

36:49

They start doing all this stuff.

36:51

I mean, you can always just

36:52

translate it using subtitles.

36:55

Yeah, whatever.

36:57

But, but they know the layout.

37:00

And they know that there's like

37:02

a secret, like hot chocolate

37:05

exhaust, like pipe, like, like

37:07

a waste pipe.

37:10

And so they break in.

37:12

And obviously there's like a

37:12

bunch of like stuff, like where

37:14

they're sneaking around and

37:16

whatnot.

37:18

And, see, instead of destroying

37:20

Grinsky's, you know, like, all

37:23

of his technology, they, they,

37:26

they impounded it.

37:29

Which was stupid on their part,

37:30

but hey, that's typical.

37:32

It's hysteria type.

37:34

Yeah.

37:35

You know, you have the guards

37:36

coming after them with giant

37:37

candy canes to like bash them

37:39

over the head.

37:40

You got these things that are

37:41

like machine guns, but they

37:42

shoot peppermints.

37:45

You know, those stripy peppermints.

37:46

Yeah.

37:47

Not, not the soft mints though.

37:49

The soft mints are frigging

37:50

banging.

37:52

The Keebler Joy cookie cannon.

37:55

The Keebler cookie cannon.

37:57

But, uh, so basically you have,

37:59

you have Santa, you know, and,

38:02

and everybody, the insecurity

38:04

starting to find out things are

38:06

going wrong.

38:09

Wires are being cut.

38:11

Somehow a fox and a reindeer

38:12

somehow spraying black spray

38:14

paint over the, over the camera

38:17

lenses.

38:19

And worst of all, the caffeinated

38:20

hot cocoa machine is broken.

38:22

Yes.

38:24

The elves are starting to get

38:25

upset.

38:27

In fact, that's, that's, that's

38:28

how they initially disrupt

38:29

things.

38:30

Strangely enough, all these hot

38:31

cocoa machines are fed from a

38:32

central source.

38:33

So they mess up that central

38:34

source and everything comes to

38:36

a grinding halt.

38:38

It's like there's, there's a

38:38

few mixers around.

38:41

Like the, the, the, the, the,

38:42

you know.

38:44

You know, and maybe some of,

38:44

you know, we set up that there

38:46

were a couple of elves that

38:47

maybe wanted things to be more

38:49

equal.

38:50

And so they end up helping Grinsky

38:51

and letting him get by some

38:53

checkpoints.

38:54

Yeah.

38:55

They slip him the key card.

38:57

Yeah.

38:58

They slip him the key card.

38:59

They get over to the, the

39:00

teleportation sleigh.

39:03

That's like fully automated.

39:04

He has Hilda run in front of it.

39:09

She pulls his sleigh.

39:10

Cause you know what, despite

39:11

the fact that she wasn't good

39:13

enough for the regular, you

39:14

know, reindeer team.

39:17

She's somehow is strong enough

39:19

in of herself to pull this

39:20

entire thing, even though it's

39:22

somewhat automated too.

39:24

So it doesn't really need her,

39:26

but it's symbolic.

39:27

Yeah.

39:28

Maybe, you know, the initial

39:29

thrusters can't get it off the

39:30

ground or something like they

39:31

disabled them.

39:33

And she's able to get it off

39:34

the ground and then he can put

39:35

it into hover mode.

39:38

Yeah.

39:39

So he escapes.

39:40

Now hear me out though.

39:41

What if the nutcracker guy like

39:43

jumps and grabs it right before

39:45

they teleport?

39:47

Well, so nutcracker guy grabs

39:49

on.

39:51

Grinsky hits the teleport

39:52

button and they teleport like

39:54

to like 15,000 feet.

39:58

You know, they see that he's on

39:58

there, but you know, his hand

40:00

slips and he's got one hand

40:02

left and he's like, please save

40:03

me.

40:04

I know I wasn't the best person,

40:06

but please try to save him.

40:09

And they can't.

40:10

And he slips and he starts

40:11

falling.

40:14

And as they're falling, like

40:15

Santa and the manager are

40:17

watching on the monitors and

40:18

they're going, no.

40:20

And it's like, as he gets away.

40:25

So Grinsky successfully does

40:26

everything he plans to do.

40:28

They're celebrating.

40:30

He goes across the world and

40:30

does this redistribution of toy

40:32

wealth.

40:34

In the end, we have to drive

40:36

change.

40:37

Yeah.

40:38

We have to drive change.

40:39

And so the news reports start

40:40

pouring in about weird thefts

40:42

that have taken place.

40:45

But they can't pinpoint who

40:46

stuff got stolen and when like,

40:49

he somehow has technology as

40:51

well where it like resets and

40:53

changes the Mac addresses on

40:55

any devices, you know, so that

40:57

they can't be traced.

41:00

They're doing Mac address spoofing

41:00

and stuff.

41:01

Yeah.

41:02

You know, all of that.

41:05

But as a result of this, what

41:06

the news reports report is that

41:08

people are happier this New

41:11

Year's Eve than they've been in

41:13

many, many years.

41:16

So Santa and the manager are

41:17

looking this over.

41:19

They're seeing the joy index go

41:21

off the charts.

41:23

You know, you've got kids that

41:24

never could have afforded to

41:26

get some of the gifts that they

41:28

always wanted.

41:30

Like, even if it's something

41:30

like just a pair of really nice

41:32

sneakers like Air Jordans or

41:33

something.

41:35

Yeah.

41:36

You have this like less

41:37

fortunate kid, plays basketball

41:39

and has always wanted a pair of

41:40

Air Jordans, but his parents

41:42

only make $10,000 a year.

41:45

So the joy index goes off the

41:46

charts and you see Santa and

41:48

the manager sitting there like

41:50

dumbfounded.

41:53

And eventually they call in Grinsky

41:56

and his two cohorts, Fundy and

41:59

Hilda.

42:01

And he's like, you know, maybe

42:02

we lost our way somewhere.

42:05

Maybe North Pole Corp shouldn't

42:06

be about this business of, you

42:09

know, 5% year over year joy

42:11

increases.

42:14

Maybe we should be doing it for

42:15

the betterment of mankind.

42:19

Maybe it should be, we should

42:21

be about every child getting

42:24

something worthwhile on

42:25

Christmas to bring joy and

42:27

happiness to their lives.

42:30

And then the ending you don't

42:30

see is every corporation

42:32

cutting them off and they go

42:33

belly up.

42:37

Yeah, it's not the greatest

42:36

story, but I think with some

42:38

tweaks, I mean, I wasn't sure

42:40

which way to go to keep it

42:42

lighthearted or to have it be

42:44

like...

42:47

Dork?

42:47

No, not even dork, like really

42:49

dark.

42:50

Yeah, that's what I was saying.

42:51

Oh, I thought you said dork.

42:52

Yeah, that's just dark and

42:53

funny.

42:55

Like, not even funny, just like

42:56

really dark, like, you know,

42:58

like machine guns and like this

43:00

elf is like really disgruntled

43:03

and...

43:05

Yeah, and I don't know that

43:06

that would play as well.

43:09

But yeah, so Elvenhood, I'll

43:11

still, you know, maybe we'll

43:13

increase the idea cost to, what

43:16

do you think, 40?

43:18

Yeah.

43:19

It's not the greatest idea.

43:21

This is definitely, you know, a

43:22

made for TV type movie, I think.

43:24

Yeah.

43:25

Or like a Netflix original that

43:26

they want to make at the end of

43:27

the year to save money.

43:29

You know, something they could

43:30

use as a tax write-off.

43:31

Yeah.

43:32

But, you know, $40,000 plus 5%

43:36

of the gross before...

43:39

Oh, and I have to specify for

43:41

streaming services, we are on a

43:44

strict payment plan, a certain

43:46

amount per view.

43:49

You know, I don't know what

43:50

that's going to be.

43:53

But we have a certain amount

43:54

per view if it's just streaming

43:56

because otherwise you really,

43:58

you don't make anything.

44:00

Yeah.

44:01

Like Netflix eats the

44:02

production costs, but then you

44:04

don't really get a sense of how

44:06

you make money.

44:08

So, that's part of the

44:09

agreement too.

44:11

But anyway, that's Elvenhood.

44:15

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44:16

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44:17

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44:20

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44:22

In fact, we haven't really

44:23

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44:25

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44:26

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44:29

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44:34

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44:50

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45:16

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45:19

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45:23

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45:26

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45:30

We were just talking recently

45:31

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45:34

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45:37

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45:38

Which will help with any random

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45:41

But, that's $300 that we don't

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45:45

Yeah.

45:46

So, anyway, I have an important

45:48

question actually.

45:50

As we wrap up the holiday wrap

45:52

up and season, was there

45:55

anything that you perhaps

45:57

wanted to have in terms of food

46:00

for say Christmas and New Years

46:03

that you weren't able to have?

46:07

Perhaps a cheese quesadilla.

46:10

Cheese quesadilla.

46:13

Sorry, we had to work it in

46:14

somewhere.

46:15

Now you know the origin of

46:16

cheese quesadilla if you listen

46:19

back to one of our holiday pre-records.

46:22

So, alright everybody.

46:23

Thank you for listening.

46:24

We really appreciate it and we'll

46:26

catch you next time.

46:28

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46:29

Bye.