NT 017 - Number 5 is Alive

Hello everybody, Editor Chris

here, just jumping in to wish

you all happy holidays,

Merry Christmas, and a Happy

New Year. For the next two

episodes, you're going to be

hearing

episodes that were recorded but

never released. The first

episode, meaning this one, is

the original

recording of episode 5. The

original episode 5 recording

was way too loud, and at the

time I had

no way to fix it. Thanks to

some plugins that I purchased

to fix previous issues, I have

been

able to clean this up. And this

episode is where you really

start to hear the Hollywood

deal taking

effect and also really cements

the cheese quesadilla as a

staple of the show. The next

episode is going

to be the second recording Kit

and I ever did together way,

way back in April of 2024, and

that

has to do with Star Wars.

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movie or book idea,

etc. But not all of our

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we look forward to bringing you

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It's a sign. What kind of a

sign? It's a sign that you

should like and subscribe. Boo.

That was a nice

segue, I gotta say. Excellent

segue to our not sponsor.

Cheese quesadilla. You've been

doing this thing

lately where you've been like

just making up random things

and for whatever reason cheese

quesadilla is the one that you're

saying today. Why are you

saying cheese quesadilla? Uh,

because I think they are good.

I think I don't really remember.

What? How do you not remember?

It's not like you haven't had

some kind of, I don't remember

what a quesadilla looks like.

Okay, here's what a quesadilla

looks like. You ready? Is it a

triangle thing? A cheese quesadilla?

Does it have like other stuff

besides cheese? I mean you

could have chunks of chicken in

it. You could have veggies to

it, whatever. But no, a cheese

quesadilla, like you just take

a soft taco, you put cheese and

chicken and junk in it, fold it

in half, and cook it on a grill

or in the microwave.

cheese quesadilla. I mean if

you're really ambitious you

could take two soft

taco shells and put one on top

of the other with cheese and

chicken and stuff

in between. Yeah but aren't

they triangles? Well yeah you

can cut them into triangles.

So one of the pieces of

feedback we got was that people

can hear us breathing. Did we

actually get this piece of

feedback or are you making that

up? My friend said thank you

for forcing me to listen to you

breathe heavily for an hour.

Yeah. That's an actual piece of

feedback. So we apologize for

those who don't like hearing

people breathe.

Unfortunately breathing is a

natural bodily process

necessary to sustain life.

Unless you force air into the

lungs using a machine. Yeah but

I'm saying breathing as a

general rule is necessary for

hypostasis. For the sustaining

of consciousness and existence.

As we understand it.

So Kit and I do go walking on a

regular basis but that doesn't

mean that hills do not hold a

special place for us in terms

of the amount of pain and

suffering that they cause. Both

in terms of extra cardiac

effort and the impact on the

leg muscles.

Pain. Yeah pain.

It's useful. Thank you for

sharing with our perpetual or

potential listeners not

perpetual. Perpetual mean they're

always listening.

Oh it's nice and shady here.

Nice and shady.

Just like the government.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh something we were talking

about this morning speaking of

the government.

So.

They're talking about putting a

tariff.

100% tariff.

On movies produced outside the

United States.

Now they haven't been very

clear on what that means.

But the problem is.

A lot of movies get produced

out of state.

Or out of the United States.

You know like we have a lot of.

places in China.

And a lot of places in other

areas.

Yeah.

Well.

Yeah.

But that's.

That's.

Less common I would say.

But yeah.

The.

The fact is that.

You know.

There's a lot of movies that

get produced outside the United

States.

But the question also is like.

How is Hollywood really

surviving?

Like how much is actually

getting done.

In Hollywood proper.

And the answer I think is not

that much.

Well.

They.

They have the name recognition.

They have the brand recognition.

The brand recognition.

Yeah.

Of Hollywood.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe that used to mean

something.

You know.

In the 1930s.

40s.

Maybe even the 50s.

You know.

Maybe that meant something.

In the.

So-called heyday of.

Cinema.

But.

Nowadays.

I mean even if you look at like

the 1970s and 80s.

When like I argue.

Movies are best.

Were best between like the

night.

Late 1970s to early 2000s.

And.

A lot of those.

Like if you think of like Star

Wars.

Alien.

All of that stuff.

A lot of those were produced.

In England.

And Harry Potter.

Well.

Yeah.

But that's obvious.

But like.

Elstree Studios.

Is a big one.

Pinewood Studios.

Is a big one.

All of those are in the UK.

So.

I don't know.

Like I question.

How much actually gets produced

on.

Sound stages in the United

States.

I mean.

Really.

A lot of the sound stages.

Like if you look at the Marvel

movies and stuff.

They're getting produced in

Georgia.

Right.

Not in California.

Probably because the tax

benefits are better in Georgia.

Yeah.

In my opinion.

The best.

Movies get produced when there

are constraints around what you

can do.

Just like video games.

Yeah.

Sometimes.

A lot of times.

I mean.

Look at Stardew Valley.

One guy did everything.

Hmm.

Or Grapples Galore.

Well I haven't played Grapples

Galore.

Yeah.

Anyway.

The point being.

You know.

When.

Creativity has constraints.

It actually is more creative.

Like.

I think that.

Don't get me wrong.

Like.

Avengers.

The original.

The original.

Like.

Phase one through three.

Or whatever it was.

Of Avengers.

That ended in Endgame.

Or did it end in Endgame.

I can't even remember what the

last movie was.

Infinity War.

Whatever.

Don't ask me.

I don't watch Marvel stuff that

much.

But.

Don't get me wrong.

That stuff's all creative and

whatnot.

But.

And.

And the storytelling was okay.

But.

It doesn't have the same like

rawness or like.

Tangibility.

As.

The stuff from the.

Late 70s through.

Through like.

Early 2000s.

From like Spielberg and stuff.

Now.

That said.

Are there absolute shit films

that were created in the 90s?

Well of course there were.

Yeah.

Like.

Some of the worst horror films

of all time.

were created in the 80s.

And they're amazing because of

it.

And I guess the question is

like.

If filmmakers were restricted

to having to film in the United

States.

Or be charged.

Twice as much money when.

Their film releases.

Would those constraints

encourage them to be more

creative.

Or would it just encourage them

to be.

More creative when it comes to

accounting.

Hmm.

I don't know.

Or would it encourage them to.

Move to the UK.

Move to the UK.

Yeah.

But then it's going to cost

wise as much to get their

movies into the United States.

Well.

Well.

Why bother having them in the

United States?

Because.

The United States doesn't need

movies.

You do realize like.

The United States is one of the

largest consumer markets for

movies.

Even if they don't go to the

movie theaters as much.

Except for a Minecraft movie.

Chicken jockey.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now that's just stupidity.

And everyone went crazy for it.

Like I don't understand that.

That's just.

That's just dumb.

Like people just tearing apart

movie theaters because of the

phrase chicken jockey.

Like what's the point.

Like what's the point.

You're just making some poor

like theater workers life

miserable.

Having to clean up after your

bullshit.

That's just being bad to other

human beings.

Yeah.

But they do that anyway.

Yeah.

But this is like being bad to

actual human beings in real

life as opposed to online.

Yeah.

But they do that anyway.

But they do it more online.

Yeah.

But they still do it.

Yeah.

But that's not the point.

If somebody throws digital

popcorn all over my digital

floor.

I don't care.

I'll just hit the delete button

and the digital popcorn's gone.

But like if somebody throws

real world popcorn and soda all

over the place.

Somebody has to put actual

effort into cleaning that up.

Nah.

It magically disappears.

No.

No it doesn't.

Nah.

They use Roombas now.

No they don't.

Yeah.

They do.

They absolutely do not.

They use giant Roombas to clean

up everything.

Theaters do not use Roombas.

They use giant Roombas as wide

as the seat aisles to clean up

everything.

No they don't.

Well clearly that's what other

people think though.

Yeah but clearly other people

are morons.

We know this.

Yes.

And that's the problem.

The problem is like.

I don't know like.

Also weren't we talking about

the Hollywood.

And the tariffs.

Yeah but this is a symptom too.

It's like.

It's like.

People are only going to the

movie theaters like.

When there's something that's

like heavily marketed.

And arguably dumb.

Yeah.

You need to have all the ads.

No one checks their local movie

theater to see if anything good

is showing.

There are good other movies out

there besides like the stuff

that we see on TV.

But I don't know.

I don't know.

Like.

I almost want to agree with you

to a certain.

A certain extent.

Like.

Is the.

The.

Modern American audience even

worth.

Wasting.

No.

Productions on.

Because.

Why bother.

They'll just look it up on

YouTube or on their streaming

service.

Right.

It's just.

They're just going to wait for

it to come out on their

streaming service.

Which of course is going to

have to pay the tariffs.

Which means all the streaming

services are going to get more

expensive.

And then all the streaming

services will go out of

business.

And then half of the population

will kill themselves.

I mean what?

I don't know about that.

I think.

Half of the population will

have a mental breakdown.

And then.

No.

I was going to say TikTok and

Instagram.

They're fine.

And YouTube.

Yeah.

But people can post a movie on

YouTube.

Yeah.

But YouTube will take it down.

Like.

YouTube does take like.

Full on movie uploads down most

of the time.

Unless.

You know.

Somebody does something.

Like.

And like.

Reverses the audio or some junk.

But like.

I'm saying like.

The official.

To YouTube.

Yeah.

But that's still going to cost

twice as much money.

That's the point that I'm

making.

Is even when you're dealing

with the digital version.

So like.

Nowadays.

By the way.

This is stupid too.

Alright.

Movie comes out on digital.

Rent me for $20.

Buy me for $25.

Well first of all.

It costs less than.

That.

For two matinee tickets to see

it in the theater.

For the purchase price.

But.

If I'm going to be interested

in seeing the movie.

Of course I'm going to pay the

$5 more.

To just own it.

Why would I rent it for $20.

When I can own it for $25.

Well you got to rent it.

So that they can make you.

I mean.

So that.

You can decide if you like it

or not.

Yeah.

Maybe.

But I still wouldn't do that.

If it really came down to that.

I would just wait for it to

come out in the library.

Yeah.

But.

Like hoopla digital.

But anyway.

But now.

Like that's going to be twice

as expensive.

You would imagine.

Because if there's a hundred

percent tariff on movies.

That were produced outside the

United States.

That's going to translate to

the digital cost as well.

So now movies are going to go

from being $25 when they're

released.

To $50 when they're released.

And then inflation will make it

become $70.

And who knows what's going to

happen with video games too.

Because a lot of the

electronics goods are going to

be going up.

So.

Like.

People were complaining that

the new Nintendo.

You know.

Switch 2 being $400 was

ridiculous.

Well.

Guess what.

Now it's going to be even more.

Oh.

Poor.

I think.

Honestly.

Hollywood could use a kick in

the face.

Because.

Hollywood's been getting.

Like getting away with just.

Republishing the same stuff

over and over again.

And sometimes they do a decent

job of it.

Don't get me wrong.

Like Jurassic World.

Was okay.

The first one.

The other two were trash.

But.

Um.

Did you see Dominion yet?

No.

Good.

But.

But I know.

How trash it is.

And they.

They came out with another one.

Yeah.

There's a Jurassic World coming

out later this year.

Yeah.

Oh.

But this time.

Uh.

We've got.

What's her face?

New person.

We've got.

Uh.

Why can't I remember her name?

Person who played Black Widow.

New person.

She's got big star power.

It'll be successful.

It wasn't successful.

Like.

Oh.

Why?

Money.

Exactly.

Money.

Like all of these things.

Like.

Oh.

We're going to do a live action

Moana.

Money.

Money.

We did a live action Lelon

Stitch.

Money.

Money.

Although.

I have to say.

The Stitch does look cute.

Yeah.

But they're going to.

They're going to mess with the

story.

And make it horrible.

And awful.

And disgusting.

Like they always do.

Maybe.

That is yet to be seen.

Coming soon to theaters near

you.

This is not a paid

advertisement.

No.

I.

You know.

If Disney was paying me.

If Disney was paying us.

Look.

Disney.

Um.

I have very strong feelings

against you.

Alright.

And I'm not a sellout.

By any stretch of the

imagination.

But I will say.

It's not going to be cheap.

To buy my.

Uh.

Buy my.

My goodwill.

And advertisement.

But.

There.

There are numbers.

That I.

I would.

I would be stupid.

Not to accept.

You know.

There's.

I hate this company.

And would never show.

Uh.

For them.

Under any reasonable

circumstances.

And then there's.

You'll never have.

You and your.

Your descendants.

Will never have to work.

A day in your lives.

Again.

Look.

Disney.

Here's all I have to say.

If there were a check.

If there were a check.

That were to show up in my

mailbox.

Say.

Between.

I don't know.

What do you think.

A good figure would be.

To buy us off.

Uh.

Five to ten million.

No.

No.

That's not enough.

With inflation.

We'd have to say.

Maybe.

Forty.

Twenty million.

A piece.

After taxes.

After taxes.

That's ten million each.

At least.

Yeah.

Maybe one billion.

No.

That's.

No.

That's unreasonable.

So.

So Disney.

If you're listening.

If you're listening.

We will be happy.

To take the non-topical podcast.

And focus it on the topic of.

Disney's greatest achievements.

In cinematic history.

For.

Like.

Like.

Going forward.

Like.

Every single time you come out

with a new movie.

We'll show for it.

But it's going to cost you

forty million dollars.

Now that's.

I think that's fair.

That's twenty million a piece.

And that would equate to about

ten million after taxes.

Yeah.

I'd gladly do that.

So Disney.

If you're listening.

Forty.

Forty million plus.

We'll take more.

But keep in mind.

The longer you wait.

The more that amount's going to

go up.

Yeah.

You know.

We have to account for

inflation.

Yeah.

I mean.

Especially as like.

The tariffs are going into play.

I mean.

You've got like.

I'd say about two weeks on this

offer.

Before then.

It's got to go up to fifty

million.

Because.

Act now.

Yeah.

Disney.

Act now.

I mean.

You throw money away on.

Some really crappy movies like

Snow White.

Or Wish.

Or Wish.

If you could throw away.

Hundreds of millions of dollars.

On those sad.

Sad excuses.

For movies.

For movies.

Then.

Surely.

You can.

Sixty million dollars.

For Kit and I's goodwill.

It's worth the premium.

Yeah.

We'll get you so many more

views.

Trust us.

So many.

So many.

We have so many viewers.

You might not see them now.

But we have so many.

So.

So many.

You know.

We have a lot of sway.

In the.

In the.

Podcast industry.

In the Zennial.

And.

And Gen Alpha.

Communities.

I mean.

Yeah.

You wouldn't believe.

Just.

Millions.

You wouldn't believe.

How much influence we have.

We have such influence.

That's all we have to.

Look.

That's all we can say.

Alright.

We've got so much.

I mean.

We've got ideas too.

Yeah.

I mean.

Like.

You know.

I've got.

I've got a campaign idea.

For the new Lilo and Stitch.

It's a brilliant.

You know.

Just the words alone.

Are worth their weight.

In gold.

Lick a stitch.

Lick a stitch.

You know.

You.

You.

You have.

Like a stitch.

Like lollipop.

That you give away.

At the theaters.

Like for the first.

Like 500 people.

That come and see it.

And they're watching.

And then like.

At one point in the movie.

You could throw this in.

At the last minute.

I know how movie productions.

It are.

You know.

The movie's not releasing.

Until May 23rd.

Which means.

You don't have to get.

The digital copies.

To the theater.

Until the 22nd.

And we know.

You're going to be tweaking.

Things up.

Until that last minute.

When you have to provide.

The file to your distributors.

So all you got to do.

Have a campaign.

Lick a stitch.

The first.

You know.

Like 500 people.

At every participating theater.

Gets a little.

Blue stitch pop.

And then.

There'll be a specific moment.

In the movie.

Where like.

Stitch like.

Steals one of these pops.

Or like.

You know.

Is given one of these pops.

From some character.

Who cares who.

And.

The whole goal was.

When that moment happens.

In the.

In the film.

All the theater goers.

Shove their.

Lick a stitch pop.

In their mouths.

Yeah.

And start licking it.

Just like Stitch does.

On the screen.

It's perfect.

It's memeable.

You know.

Stitch is sitting there.

Going like.

And.

Everybody in the audience.

Is doing the same thing.

This is your.

Lilo and Stitch.

Meme moment.

Look.

We.

We've got ideas.

Look.

That's all I'm saying.

Is we've got ideas.

And.

They can make you millions.

And.

Really.

It's.

It's all yours.

For the cost of 75 million

dollars.

It's very cheap.

Very cheap.

But.

Probably a dent.

In your finances.

But as you can see.

That amount is going up.

It's going to get less.

And less profitable.

For you Disney.

The longer you wait.

And you know.

While we're at it.

You know.

Maybe.

Maybe you know.

Disney isn't our right audience

here.

Maybe you know.

Illumination.

Yeah.

Illumination.

We could do things.

Or DreamWorks.

Dream.

Well DreamWorks doesn't really

exist anymore.

Oh.

I mean they kind of do.

But I think they got bought up

by Disney.

Right.

I don't know.

DreamWorks.

I'm not sure if they

technically exist anymore.

But.

Any.

Look Comcast slash.

You know.

Universal.

We could come up with things.

You know.

Is Paramount still its own

thing?

Yeah.

Paramount Viacom.

Oh.

Oh.

I love me some Star Trek.

We could do.

You know.

We could do.

You know.

There.

There is a lack.

Of tangible skills.

In the world today.

You know.

The type of stuff that people

used to learn in.

Home economics.

I'm talking about cooking.

I'm talking about learning how

to balance a checkbook.

But most of all.

Talking about sewing.

And so.

You know.

For the next Star Trek movie

that you come out with.

Where you drag.

You know.

Aging actor Patrick Stewart.

Out of his hyperbolic chamber.

What I would.

I would say is this.

You know.

To encourage.

You know.

Children.

And adults.

To start to take an interest.

In old.

Home economic skills.

I think.

That for the first.

Like.

100 people.

That come to each theater.

You give them a make it sew kit.

And the make it sew kit.

Is you know.

A nice little kit.

Of sewing supplies.

Maybe some needlepoint stuff.

Maybe even a pattern.

To be able to make.

Your own Star Trek communicator.

Like needlepoint stitch work.

On your.

On.

On your polo shirt.

Or maybe just a patch.

You know.

You have the Star Trek communicator

patch.

That people.

Can now sew.

onto their polo shirts and you

link to videos, you know, to

helpful walkthrough videos with

the stars from the movie.

They're on YouTube and they'll

show you step by step how to

make it so.

You see?

We've got ideas.

And now we're going to get put

on the list.

We've got tons of ideas and,

you know, these ideas are not

limited to just one franchise.

I mean, we've got ideas for

Star Wars.

We've got ideas for Star Trek.

We've got ideas for animated

franchises.

Like Sonic.

Like Sonic.

I mean, there are just so many,

so many, you know, like we can

combine Sonic with current

health trends.

Gotta go fast.

We could turn that into

something about daily fasting.

You know, intermittent fasting,

it's great for the body.

You know, it helps you to lose

weight.

We could do something with

Sonic, encouraging people.

Again, consult your doctors.

Gotta make sure that he says

that, you know, check with your

provider.

But in an era where we have

drugs like Ozempic, where they're

advertising weight loss, let's

give people an alternative.

You know, gotta go fast.

It's perfect.

And all of this could be yours.

All of these great ideas for

the cheap, low, low price of $80

million.

Yeah.

But act now.

The price is going to keep

going up.

Not all of this information is

factual.

But, well, the information

about the price going up is.

Yeah.

Kit and I know our value.

Okay?

That's all I'm saying.

We know how valuable our ideas

could be to the industry.

Not all information in this ad

is factual.

Terms and conditions apply.

Well, yeah.

Obviously, if you take any of

these marketing ideas that we've

put out in this format, I mean,

we're going to know you stole

them from us.

We have evidence.

And we have evidence that, you

know, this show was produced on

a specific date.

So we recorded this on, well, I

can't see the date right now.

I think it's like May 10th.

It's May 10th, 2025.

Okay.

May 10th, 2025.

So guess what?

If you implement any of these

ideas, we've got the time and

date stamp.

We can prove that they're ours.

So if you would want to take

advantage of these ideas.

Pay up.

Pay up.

The low, low cost of $95

million.

Look, the inflation is really

bad.

Yeah, the inflation is getting

terrible, you know.

So Kit and I know our value to

the industry.

We know what we can do for you.

Either through podcasting,

through game streaming.

If you have a shitty ass, like,

game version of your movie that

you want to get out there, give

us beta access.

We'll go out and play it for

you.

As long as the price is right.

You know, if you're going to

give us, like, 500 bucks,

forget that.

That's not worth it.

Do you know what $500 gets me?

That's not even my rent.

That's nothing.

Nah, you know, but we will

provide services.

I mean, we'll podcast.

We'll game stream.

We'll even sit in your board

meetings and tell you why your

dumbass idea is horrible and

how to make it better.

How to make it so that we'll

play with today's audiences.

We'll help you to memefy your

movies.

To come up with those wonderful

chicken jockey moments that

people are just going to latch

on to like stupid ass children.

Look, it could all be yours for

$150 million.

That's all I'm saying.

Look, you got to understand.

The inflation is really bad.

We're mildly inconvenienced.

There's nothing else we can

offer.

I'm just saying for the wide

array of services you would get

from us, it's well worth the

small investment on your part.

And with the tariffs coming, I

don't know what else.

I honestly don't know what else

you're going to have.

What other strategy are you

going to be able to have?

Oh, you're going to hire better

celebrities.

Nobody cares about celebrities

these days.

It's all about the internet

people.

And even then, it's no longer

about the internet influencers

because nobody trusts in

internet influencers anymore.

The scandals, mean coins, and

NFTs just totally wrecked that

market.

So what you really need are two

honest-to-goodness people.

One in their early 40s.

One just starting into his

prime at the age of 16.

You've got a nice market

segment there.

We are the voice of the people.

And we could be yours for just

$175 million.

We're trying to help.

And I feel like our costs are

reasonable.

We're not looking to exploit

you.

Not at all.

The way that you exploited so

many people.

We won't let that get out.

Don't worry.

All you have to do is pay it.

We just want to be paid a just

wage for what we're accomplishing.

For you.

You see, this is not for us.

It's for you.

No, I think we have a good

business plan here.

I think that really we can

exchange $175 to $195 million

worth of value with these

studios.

We'll even work for multiple

studios.

You could divide the cost.

Hey, they could divide the cost.

It's like Disney, Universal,

and all these companies want to

get together and pull together

the $200 million it takes for

us.

I'd be willing to do that.

Yeah.

It's like many movie studios

deal with the same advertisers,

with the same marketing

companies.

I mean, we're costing you a

fraction of that.

And if you pull your resources,

then it really only comes down

to, you know, $75 million per

company.

That's a steal.

And now we get put on a list.

Well, we should be on a list.

We should be on their call list.

They should be picking up the

phone right now.

Emailing us at feedback at nontopical.com.

We're here for you, Hollywood,

to help you through this crisis.

We've got ideas.

We've got authority that you

can't buy, except you can.

We've got influence that you

can't buy, except that you can.

All for the low, low cost of $450

million.

Kid, do you have anything else

that we could do to entice the

movie executives who might be

listening?

We'll bring you coffee.

Because they don't have coffee?

Kid, I don't know.

You're going to have to sweeten

the pot more than that.

Cheese quesadilla.

And there we are.

Call back to the beginning of

the show.

Cheese quesadillas.

But cheese quesadillas made

from, you know, the best, freshest

sourced ingredients.

You know, if you're vegan, we'll

get some of that soy cheese or

what is it, like nutritional

yeast, brewer's yeast, whatever

it is.

You know, we're here to cater

to you.

We'll even cook them right in

front of you on a George Foreman

grill.

Anyway, back to how Hollywood's

going to get destroyed.

Um, well, they wouldn't get

destroyed if they just spent

that low, low cost of $500

million.

No, I'm kidding.

All right.

I don't know.

At this point, I'm not saying

there aren't some good creative

stuff that comes out of the

movie industry.

Like the Sins of the Spider-Verse

films.

Yeah.

And there are some other

smaller films that don't get

that much publicity that are...

Like Studio Ghibli.

Really good.

I think the problem is that the

movie industry has formulas

that work.

They know...

Right now it's video game

movies.

Yeah.

And meme-y movies.

Yeah.

But they have formulas that

work.

They know if I put plot element

A, plot element B, a little bit

of character C, and some music

from Lin-Manuel Miranda in it,

I'm going to make bank.

Except they have failed.

Well...

They have failed.

I don't know that they've

necessarily failed in that

people will wait for it to be

streaming and buy it.

Or people will wait for it to

be streaming on Netflix or

whatever.

Unless it's Disney.

Well, yeah.

Then Disney Plus.

Which is really Disney Minus at

this point.

Because even if you pay the

premium subscription, you're

still getting ads.

And you don't even get to see

the movies before they come out.

Which is the entire point.

That's how they sold it in the

beginning.

Does anyone remember that?

Yeah.

But the whole point was that

you got to see movies before

they came out.

Yeah, but that was also during

COVID when you couldn't go to

the movies.

Yeah, but still the entire

point was that you got to see

movies before they came out.

Look, Hollywood.

If you want to save yourselves,

we're here for you.

I think that really is the core

of this segment.

I don't know how we got here.

That we're not going to use.

I don't know how we got here.

I don't know how we got to

trying to shill for the movie

companies.

But I think that this is a

strong candidate for an episode

at this point.

Nah.

Nah.

It's all just one big

advertisement.

No one wants to listen.

One big advertisement.

Because they do that every time

they watch YouTube or TikTok.

So anyway, that's the state of

Hollywood and how we're feeling

about it.

I think that unfortunately

Hollywood is going to...

It's a failure.

It is a failure at this point.

I mean, granted, they still

make millions upon millions of

dollars that...

Out of brand recognition.

Yeah, they could share with us.

I mean, for our marketing

genius.

I think they could definitely

share some of the millions with

us.

And we could help them to make

more money.

I think it's a fair and

balanced way to deal with

things, you know?

Are we going to get paid yearly?

You know, I'm willing to do it.

I'm not greedy.

I'm willing to do it as a lump

sum.

For that amount of money, I don't

need any more after that.

I'm good.

Like, seriously.

But it all comes down to just

trying to help Hollywood while

we can.

Because at this point, soon AI

will be making movies.

Hollywood will become obsolete.

Yeah.

I mean, that wouldn't surprise

me.

There's a lot of people using

AI for a bunch of stuff.

And I think AI has its place.

Don't get me wrong.

It is possible that it will die

out of the NFTs.

Well, I think the AI, now that

the genie's out of the bottle,

it's going to be with us for

quite some time.

But I think over time, people

are going to find what the

actual practical uses are

versus the stupid stuff.

Now, don't get me wrong.

But we already did find the

practical uses.

There will always be people who

will find ways to use it to

make lots of money off of

innocent people.

I mean, look at the people who

make horrible, horrible kids'

videos just using AI.

It's terrible.

They're disturbing.

And they're made for children.

But they make money.

But they make money, so they

keep doing it.

Eventually, I think that will

go away.

I hope.

Because otherwise, we're just

going to devolve into, like,

this situation where the only

source of creativity is

everything else that was

already created.

Because AI can't truly create

something new and unique, at

least not very well.

Because it's basing it off of

everything that everyone else

has created.

I mean, I guess it could try to

merge styles and stuff, but...

Not very well.

But it takes individual people

to use AI in a way that is

truly creative.

Corridor Digital made an AI-based,

you know, animation based on

styles of certain anime.

But they had to go in there and

actually, like, they had to

tweak things.

They had to manually, like,

create models.

They had to...

You're giving them free

advertising.

But Corridor Digital is awesome.

I'm tired of talking now.

Yeah.

So, what we'd like to ask all

of you to do is, first of all,

lobby your favorite Hollywood

studios to hire Kit and I.

Yeah.

We're here for you, Hollywood.

Secondly, subscribe to us in

your favorite podcast player.

We don't care which one.

Leave us a review in your

favorite podcast player.

Send us feedback.

feedback@nontopical.com.

Spread the word.

And by all means, if you like

what we're doing, because we

know the movie studios won't,

go to https://ko-fi.com/nontopical.

And if you get value out of

what you're hearing, show us

some value in return.

We wouldn't mind a dollar or

two.

You know, whatever you can

afford.

Whatever you think it's worth.

If we're worth, like, nothing,

then don't give us anything.

If we're not entertaining to

you, you don't have to give us

anything.

But if you get something out of

what we're doing, we would love

to see something in return.

Anyway, Kit, do you have

anything else to add?

Besides cheese or cheese quesadillas?

Chicken quesadillas.

Goodbye, everyone.

Goodbye.