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Alright, we're on the road
again.
On the road again.
Oh no, no, copyright, copyright!
Yeah, I was about to say, that's
where the song has to be cut
off to avoid copyright.
Hi, Kit.
Meow.
Meow. Yes, meow indeed.
We have roughly 30 unique
listeners per month.
What?
Of which I'm one.
What?
Because I always listen to our
show for quality and also for...
Comedy?
Ego purposes.
Oh.
But, something unique happened
right around the time when we
were recording episode 10.
We officially got our first
donation.
Yay!
Yeah, I'm as shocked as you are.
Someone actually thought that
it would be worth their time to
spend money.
So...
We want to give a shout out to
Dimce, also known as Salty
Dimce, also known as D1MC3, I
believe.
Are you saying a radio call
sign?
No, that's how he spells his
name.
Now, to be fair, we've known
Dimce for quite some time,
both Kit and I.
Yeah.
We appreciate his encouragement.
He flat out said, "Keep up the
great work or good work on our
Ko-Fi." And now, we are
officially
$5 closer to our hypothetical $1,000.
And then eventually, it'll go
up because of inflation.
Inflation, obviously.
Yes.
So, Dimce, thank you for
listening.
Thank you for your contribution
to our podcast.
We definitely appreciate it.
And, once Kit sets up a PayPal
account, I will happily give
him his half of the funds.
Also, I'm not going to get too
into this, but I will own and
apologize for the technical
issues at the end of Episode 10.
And the entire technical issue
that was Episode 11.
We've since changed our
recording methodology to not
use a wire.
Hopefully not break.
Yes.
And I've also invested in a...
it's not the pro version of
this plug-in, but it is a pro
plug-in to better assist with
some audio quality things over
time.
So, hopefully you'll notice
that difference, but I will own
the technical issues and
hopefully, this time around, we
won't have any.
Hopefully.
Hopefully.
Rain.
If it rains, it rains.
If it rains, it pours.
And sometimes when it rains, it's
raining cats and dogs.
Yeah, that's painful.
For who?
The humans or the animals?
Yes.
Yeah, and Weird Rain has
definitely been the premise of
multiple horror films, so...
That's always fun, too.
There will always be two things
that will always be part of non-topical.
One is inflation.
Can you guess what the other
one is?
Yes.
Yes, I can, but it's your job
to say it, so please do.
Cheese...
Quesadilla...
Anyway, speaking of technical
stuff, I want to start off
today with a bit of a thought
exercise with you.
Oh no.
Oh no.
Oh no.
Yeah, I know.
You have robots.
Yeah.
All right, a robot is a pretty
straightforward thing.
An ordinary robot or a quote-unquote
"AI robot"?
I'm not talking text-based
robots like LLMs and ChatGPT.
I know.
I'm saying in terms of...
A robot is a mechanical thing
that may or may not have
intelligence that can do a
variety of things.
Are you talking about robots in
general or like biped robots or...?
I'm talking about robots in
general, but still.
I'm thinking more along the
line of androids and things
like that.
Like humanoid-looking robots,
which don't really exist yet.
I mean, they do.
So, there are robots.
Yeah.
And then there's augmented
humans that have body parts
that are mechanical.
I'm trying to think...
Like cyberpunk-style.
Well, not just that, but...
I'm trying to think there's a
term for it. Cyborgs.
Yeah.
So, there's cyborgs, which are
part human, part machine.
And then you have pure human,
which is...
Well, what we're born as.
Yeah.
The meat puppets that are
somehow animated by thoughts
and/or spirit and/or whatever.
All right, so we have these
three things.
So, you have the scale from
meat sack to mechanical
nightmare.
Computer.
Yes.
That is the scale.
From meat sack to mechanical
nightmare.
Yeah.
The question is...
Where is the line between those
different phases?
So, you have meat sack, you
have cyborg, and you have
mechanical terror.
Or not terror, but you get what
I'm saying.
Yeah.
If my heart is faulty...
Yeah.
And they give me a heart pump
or a mechanical heart, am I a
cyborg yet?
Technically.
You have a mechanical
modification to your body.
Yes.
All right.
Let's go more simple again.
Repeat that again.
Might not have heard that.
Yeah.
Let's go more simple.
I go to war.
Okay.
All right.
I go to war.
I accidentally step on a landmine.
What a shame.
I'm lucky.
I only lose my right leg.
Good for you.
Now, when I get back, they
replaced my right leg with a
prosthetic.
Now, a prosthetic is not
robotic really, unless it's one
of those fancy prosthetic, you're
working on where they can
connect wires into your brain
and then your brain controls it.
Yeah.
I think that's the more
specific thing of what is a cyborg
when it actually connects to
you
in a way where you can actually
control it with your brain and
not like... you move the little
leg stump and then the leg also
moves.
Okay.
The moment that it's like
actually connected to your
neurons and that's when it
becomes more cyborg-y than just...
All right.
So, if it's like the guy from
Corridor Digital where they 3D
printed him a pinky, that doesn't
count.
Yeah, no.
All right.
Like it has to be like...
because if you think about it,
a prosthetic is kind of like
wearing a glove.
Okay.
That's how you have to think
about it.
You're just putting it on.
You can just take it off
whenever you want, but you can't
just take off cyborg parts
easily.
All right.
The next question is...
So, we have determined for the
purposes of this conversation,
not the purposes of research
and PhDs and people who deal
with this type of stuff
professionally, if you even
want to call them that.
No, I'm kidding.
Of course, they're
professionals.
Yeah.
But our definition of somebody
who is a cyborg is somebody who
has mechanical or computerized
parts that they can control
with their brain.
Like I wouldn't count a...
Or directly connected to their
brain.
I wouldn't count a pacemaker as
a cyborg thing, I don't think.
Well, you wouldn't count a
heart pump by that definition
either because it's not
connected to a brain.
Yeah.
So that's just augmentation.
Yes.
All right.
The next question is a little
bit more tricky.
Yeah.
You have from cyborg to...
Machines?
See, here's the thing.
I knew you were going to go to
this point so I already thought
about this.
Okay.
This is how I am going to
define it.
If you have a good portion of
your brain, like at least 25%...
Wait, there's a good portion of
my brain?
No.
If at least 25% of your brain
is run by mechanical things or
if 50% of vital organs are run
by machine...
At that point I think you're
getting more to the machine
side than the organic side.
Yes, but where's the pure cut
over?
And this is where it gets funky
and I'll explain why.
Don't worry, I tend to agree
with you.
But if you look at...
There's a classic anime known
as Ghost in the Shell.
Not the Ghost in the Shell TV
series which is also equally
good from what I've heard.
But the entire premise of Ghost
in the Shell is that you could
take a human consciousness and
put it into an Android body.
And there are a variety of
different...
Yeah.
There's plenty of different
takes.
There's plenty of different
takes like that.
The latest Alien Earth series
is based on that concept.
Even... even... spoiler for Stray
the Cat Game, but yeah, even in
Stray there's that as well.
The question then becomes, if
your body is all mechanical and
your brain is technically a
computer, but your
consciousness is that of a
human and you have...
And you have...
Funny.
Memories of a human and you
have the morals of a human and
the computer is only existing
to continue the brain functions
of the human, but in a computerized
way.
Is that person now an android?
You know what?
Or are they still a person?
I think that game theory
described it best.
Is that once a person dies, it's
no longer going to be that
person for real because it's
not going to interact in the
same way that person would.
So it's just mimicking what it
knows about that person.
So, you're saying it can't grow
and evolve and change?
It would not be... it would...
it could, but it would probably
not be the same as that person
would.
But it would be that person's
consciousness.
At the same time, it's still
just mimicking that person.
It is still a machine.
That's interesting.
That's interesting.
That's game theory's take on
something.
That's an interesting theory.
I mean, it is called game
theory where I just snatched it
from, so...
Actually, this reminds me of a
story...
Of a story that I had in mind
that never fully wrote it or
anything, but...
That... that could tie into
this.
And could become a movie.
So...
Here's the premise.
There's a kid...
Wait, are you talking about
something that already exists?
No.
I'm talking about something
that I had an idea for when I
was like in middle school or
high school.
Oh.
That could become a movie.
Or not, because I don't have...
Horror comic or something.
Whatever.
You have this kid.
Kid is homeschooled.
Kid's never really left the
house.
Kid is...
But never thinks anything weird
of it or anything.
Hmm.
And...
It goes through the motions of
living.
Goes to sleep.
Has dreams.
Does creative things.
I think...
I think I can see where this is
going.
Can do art and stuff.
Seems to be, from his own
perspective, a kid.
Yeah.
I think I can see where this is
going.
Then...
Nah, I don't think you do yet.
Then...
Parents disappear.
Ah.
Parents disappear under
mysterious circumstances.
What a shame.
And...
Kid is trapped in house.
Has never really left.
Well, is he trapped or does he
just not know how to unlock
doors?
Well, kid isn't trapped per se,
but has never left house.
Yeah.
Alright.
This could also be a teen
instead of a kid, whatever.
Person.
But has never left house.
Maybe has made one online
friend that lives in the area
supposedly, whatever.
Supposedly.
Actually...
Actually, no.
I do remember...
They did make...
One friend.
If I remember my initial idea.
And they started reaching out
to this friend and like, kinda
kept it secret from their
parents.
Their parents said, "Don't go
online. Don't mess with people,
you know."
"Just go online for homework.
Don't go on social media. It'll
mess you up."
Smart parents.
Yeah.
Because social media will fuck
you up.
Especially now.
Wait, what?
Especially now.
Yes.
Anyway.
Kid makes friends online.
Does chats with her.
All this stuff.
But his parents disappeared.
What a shame.
They just go out one day and
don't show back up.
Now...
The kid doesn't know how to
leave the house or isn't
comfortable leaving the house
cause he never left.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And...
And...
He starts exploring more and
trying to figure out what's
going on but...
Because he doesn't really feel
comfortable leaving the house
he's stuck just using computers
and whatnot.
So he reaches out to his friend...
And says, "Hey...
I'm okay but my parents have
been missing under who knows
what circumstances for like a
month."
Wait, I have an important
question now.
Yes.
How would he still be alive?
He has no food.
And no one's paying the water
and electrical bills.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
We'll get there.
Oh yeah, right.
Anyway.
Right, right.
I remember where this is going
so I don't...
I understand.
I don't know where it's going
but you don't entirely.
This has multiple twists.
Yeah, yeah.
I have...
But you can help me to workshop
it a little bit as we go
forward.
You can start to come up with
some ideas.
Alright, so...
Girl character because she is
and she is roughly his age so
we'll say they're both like 16,
17, whatever.
Something or other.
Young adults.
They're in love.
Or something.
They're not yet in love.
But...
Girl comes over, knocks on door.
Kid opens door.
Wait, hold up, hold up.
How does she know where he
lives?
She...
He tells her where he lives.
How would he know if he's never
gone outside?
Does he just like look at the
mail address?
I mean you gotta know your
address so you can get mail.
Yeah, but why would he get mail?
Look, maybe he has a magazine
that he likes, okay?
Look, it's a common thing.
Look, you don't get much mail
but you know your address.
But how would he know about any
magazines if he's not supposed
to go online?
You do realize that maybe his
parents were encouraging him by
getting him things that he was
interested in in terms of...
I don't know, maybe he's into
mod development and there's mod
development monthly.
Who knows?
Who knows?
Point is, he knows his address.
So he gives the address to the
girl.
He opens up the door.
He starts talking to her and
she's like, "Where are you?"
And he's like, "I'm right here.
What are you talking about?
Where am I?"
And she goes, "No, like where
are you?
I don't see you.
I can hear you.
I don't see you anywhere."
And as they're doing that, she's
starting to get like really
confused and he's really
confused.
Because he's like, "No, like I
opened the door for you.
What are you talking about?"
And she goes, "Well, look, I
don't know what type of game
you're playing with me here.
You called me over.
You told me your parents are in
trouble.
Why are you playing this game
of like hiding and talking to
me through some speaker system?"
And this is when things start
to unravel for the guy a little
bit.
So he discovers, so girl comes
to his room.
He tells her, he's like, "Well,
fine.
Let's just go to my room."
So he sees, like he feels
himself walking to his room.
You know, he sees her walking
to his room.
They get to his room.
His computer turns on.
He's like, "See, look, I turned
on my computer.
I did this.
I did that."
And she's like, "Yeah, but you're
not here.
What is going on?"
Like, are you in some, like, I'm
getting sick of this.
And they come to discover that
he's actually an AI
consciousness that was raised
from the level of a child.
And all the cameras in the
house.
Well, here's an important
question.
How did he never think to look
down at himself?
Like, if you go to bed...
But he did.
For example, he had, for
example, for video chat, he had
an avatar that looked like a
real person.
Yeah.
So he has a sense of what he
looks like.
He knows what he looks like.
He knows what he feels like.
Like, he actually feels
sensations.
And to the food question...
Yeah, it doesn't mean to eat.
He would be sitting down with
his quote unquote family and
eating food with them.
So at this point, the girl is
still going to stay.
They've figured out this thing
and they want to discover what
the heck happened to his
parents.
So he can't pick the lock to
his parents' room.
And he also can't just leave
because...
Right.
There's no cameras outside.
He can't pick the lock to his
parents' room.
Because he's not physical.
Because he's not physical.
But she can.
And there are cameras in his
parents' room.
But he, for some reason, can't
get in there until...
Well, you know what that means?
It means there's more than one
AI.
No.
There's not.
And there's like an answering
machine.
And there's also a secret door
in his parents' room.
Now, once the girl gets in,
somehow that gives him access
to the room as well.
I don't know how.
We're not going to explain it.
Magic.
Science magic.
Yes, exactly.
There's probably some kind of
science magic.
There's some kind of science
magic on the door.
Censor on the door.
Whatever.
Since I'm going to assume that
this is some kind of experiment.
Anyway, she gets in.
There's more than one AI.
There's more than one AI.
No.
There's not.
And there's like an answering
machine.
Anyway, she gets in.
It gives him access.
And there's an answering
machine in there.
They press the button and there's
a male voice on the answering
machine like,
"I will not let you continue
doing what you're doing.
You are a threat to humanity.
You are a threat to everything
that we hold it held sacred.
Why are you still doing this?"
I don't know.
So there was a threatening
message on the phone.
Oh.
Uh huh.
And there's also a secret door.
So they get into the secret
door.
And somehow their camera's
there too.
It goes down.
Yeah, of course.
Like we have to just explain
away that maybe...
Maybe there's some kind of dongle
that he says, "Hey, my parents
always wore this dongle when
they walked from room to room,
but they always took it off
when they went into their room
and I never understood why."
Because that was the ability to
kind of carry his consciousness
into the rooms that he might
not have normally been allowed
to.
Especially when you're a kid.
Like you might not be allowed
in certain rooms in the house.
Yeah.
So anyway, they go downstairs
and there's a body that's in
like a vat of liquid hooked up
to heart monitors, hooked up to
brain monitors, all this stuff.
And it's a real body.
Yeah.
And it's a real body of a kid
roughly his age.
It's like, what the hell?
Now, this is when they start to
get the big reveal about who he
actually is.
And it turns out that his
parents, "parents" quote
unquote, were really brilliant
scientists, obviously.
Obviously.
And they didn't lose a child
through childbirth per se.
But the child they gave birth
to was not, for whatever reason,
able to live on its own.
Or was not able to fully
function at that level of
development.
And so they created, using
their brilliance, an AI with
the full capacity of a baby.
And then instead of ingesting
everything like a large
language model does, they
taught it the same way, at the
same pace you would teach a
child.
Well now I can definitely see
where this is going.
You think you do.
But not entirely.
So obviously, the guy thinks to
himself, "I need to go and save
my parents from whoever this
sleazebag is."
And they, as they're looking
through the records, they find
this third doctor that the
parents used to be with at like
MIT or Berkeley or whatever.
WPI.
WPI.
Right.
So it turns out there's a
command to put his
consciousness in the body,
which nobody is surprised at at
this point.
Yeah.
And what you don't see coming
is the fact that there's
another consciousness in the
body.
Just because the body wasn't
necessarily able to live on its
own will make up something
about the parents doing
physical therapy with the body
as it's in a coma and feeding
it and finding some way to
program information like
language and knowledge of the
world into the brain of the
body.
Because otherwise, when you
moved the AI to the body, the
body would be all atrophied and
the brain wouldn't have the
same knowledge.
Yeah.
So anything he learned was also
put into the brain of this body.
Yeah.
Well, what was also in the body
was the actual personality of
the kid that for whatever
reason couldn't move on his own.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So now you have this situation
where you have two
consciousnesses in one body and
consciousness of the body is
rightfully angry at AI because
like AI has had all this
freedom and has gotten to learn
and experience the world.
Will the consciousness of the
body understand what AI is?
Well, yeah, because it was
programmed with the same
knowledge that the AI had.
I mean, just because it's an AI
doesn't mean that it's not
aware that AI exists.
Hmm.
So anyway, but they both agree
that they've got to go out and
figure out what happened to the
parents.
And it's at this point where
there's like a command center
in this lab and they see a
strange man pulling up and it's
not the guy.
It's not the doctor, but there's
a strange man pulling up in a
black vehicle.
They get out of the vehicle.
That's all sketchy.
And they're clearly carrying a
weapon of some kind.
So now AI is in a physical body
and AI is mortal.
And obviously, girl that AI has
been friends with is also
mortal.
And there's a guy with a gun
coming into the house.
So this is where Adventure Mode
kicks in and they all have to
go on a crazy journey to try to
find sketchy doctor following
clues.
And it turns out that the
doctor, you know, didn't want
this to happen and is going to
kill the kid and thus kill both
the kid and the AI inside the
physical, like the AI kid and
the actual consciousness.
So the AI didn't back up its
memory or anything?
Well, who's to say it would
know how?
So anyway, so they go on this
adventure.
They finally find where the
doctor is.
They find the parents and it
gets to a standoff situation
where, you know, you know, it's,
you know, you need to shoot,
you know, there's some kind of
choice.
Either, either, you know, I'll
kill your parents and your,
your little chicky do here, or
you will have to take this pill
to suicide yourself.
Oh no, I said suicide, heaven
forbid.
Oh no.
And the kid being altruistic is
going to sacrifice himself.
Of course.
Both, both the AI and the, the
actual consciousness in the
body decide it's better to
sacrifice themselves and save
their friends and family.
Also just from a logical point
of view, one, technically two
in exchange for three.
Yes.
Yes.
But.
Even though no one would ever
do that.
Girlfriend, girlfriend managed
to, at some point in their
adventure, get a knife or a
small pistol or something.
So as kid swallows pill,
girlfriend struggles out of her
restraints.
And of course they fall in love
at some point.
Yeah.
You know, the, the, the actual
consciousness in the body doesn't
really care about her, but the
AI obviously does because it's
his only friend.
And obviously they fall in love.
And then, so as the AI slash
other kid are losing
consciousness from the pill,
they, they notice the girl
getting out of her restraints
and they start hearing guns, a
gunshot.
And then kid wakes up and kid
is like, huh? What's going on?
And kid lifts up arm and there's
actually an arm there and sets
up. And the parents are like,
Oh, we're so proud of you. You,
you made the right thing.
He's like, yeah, but like,
where's Jerry? Who's the other
consciousness? Jerry's fine.
Don't worry about it. Jerry's
not the AI. Jerry is actually
the other body.
And Jerry walks in, in a, in
the body is like, yeah, somehow
when your consciousness entered
my body, it fixed the neural
disorder and helped me to be my
own person. It's like, but then
who am I? Or what am I? And
they basically say, well, now
you can go two routes here. It's
either a, it's a pure Android.
Or B it's in the dead girl's
body. No, no, no, no, we're not
going to do that. Or B the
parents go, well, there was
this kid at the hospital who
was roughly your age, who was
brain dead and had asked his
parents to donate his body to
science.
And so because of that, and
because of our connections to
the different universities, we
were able to do the genetic
type matching and brain type
matching that we needed to do
and determined that we were
able to, because then he can
leave, live a normal life.
Yeah.
Versus if you're an Android, I
mean, yeah, you might have the
physical appearance of a human
being, but you're never going
to age.
Yeah.
And like, I mean, your, your
mechanics will deteriorate over.
Yeah.
But that's, that could be
replaceable.
Up to a point.
Up to a point.
But the point being that being
in a human body allows you to
have a real life and to have a
family and, and whatnot.
Being in an Android body.
I mean, yeah, you could still
be with somebody physically if
you wanted to, but you would
never have children.
I mean, you could adopt if you
wanted a family, but it's not
exactly the same.
So I don't know which route to
go there yet, but it still
brings up like moralistic
issues of dumping a
consciousness into another
human's body.
Yeah.
That's brain dead that somehow
will work with the AI
consciousness, but then the
actual personality of the
person from the body isn't
there anymore.
It's a little weird.
Yeah.
So I don't know what the right
decision, but that's, that's a
movie idea that I had or a
story idea I had as a kid.
Obviously it's not that well
fleshed out.
So, sir, add your special sauce
to the mix.
Shall you?
One special sauce.
Look, it's by collaborating
that we create great content
that Hollywood purchased right
now.
Nobody's going to purchase this
turd of the idea.
Are you sure?
I don't know.
I don't know.
So what, what feedback do you
have?
What notes?
Uh, how do they get the AI into
the brain though?
Uh, they figured it out.
You're saying at the end?
No, like in the beginning.
Oh, it was already set up that
way in the lab.
Yeah, but how?
It was, it was, they did the
research and they had already.
I'm saying, how does it
actually work?
Look, that's, that is one of
those weird existential
questions, sir.
That I don't think, because the
movie itself.
You need to keep in mind that
like the human brain is like,
what is it like?
500 terabytes memory?
It's something crazy.
Look, how, how would you have
that much memory?
Well, I mean, with all the AI
stuff, you know, there might be
enough to make a full human
brain if everyone worked hard
enough to get there.
If, if the parents were able to
keep this physical human brain
up to date with what the AI was
learning, then it, they have to
have some kind of computer
interface to be able to deal
with that.
And then maybe they don't, they
only copy over the information
that's different, not the
information that is the same.
Therefore, reserving the brain
storage space.
Although the brain does not
technically work like that at
all.
It's a, it's a network of
neurons and...
I was saying the computer brain.
How would there be enough room
for the computer brain to learn
everything a human brain can?
Well, here's, here's the way
you do that.
They have a big lab downstairs.
The consciousness is in these
giant servers.
I'm saying physically, like, I
don't think, I like, I don't
even think there's as much
memory as a single human brain
in the entire world right now.
There might be because of all
the AI stuff, but I doubt it.
Are you kidding me?
There, there are server
clusters that are petabytes.
Oh.
So, 500 terabytes would
definitely be possible.
I don't remember how much the
human brain is.
You might have to look that up.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
They figured out how to have
racks and racks of servers in
the basement.
Okay.
They figured it out.
That's all you need.
They have racks and racks of
servers.
Sci-Fi logic.
Sci-Fi logic.
Sci-Fi logic.
And they got the, they got
those fancy NVIDIA servers.
Right.
That's just a sprinkle.
They got them fancy NVIDIA
servers that are like 24
graphics GPUs linked together.
Yeah.
To make it smart.
All right.
Yeah.
They, they, they, they, they,
these are, these are smart
people.
They can figure out stuff that
you and I can't even conceive
of.
I mean, clearly we just
conceived of it.
So.
I mean the technical ability to
actually do it.
Not the hypothetical.
Well, we'll solve this with
servers magic that we just came
up with.
But anyway.
Any other thoughts on the story?
Uh.
This is good.
It's a little cliche.
But that's the only way
Hollywood would buy it.
So.
Well, yeah.
Alright, we're gonna get to
that bridge.
And then we'll be dry.
You can tell this is a short
rain because of the way it
smells.
Yes.
It smells dirty, so that's how
you can tell it's a short rain.
Ah, it's acid rain! Ah, it
burns! It burns!
Ah, it burns! It burns! Ah! Ah!
Ah! Okay. We're now out of the
acid rain.
For now! For now!
So yeah, that was my story idea.
Um, I have no idea what to call
it.
That's nice. You're no help at
all, sir.
Thank you. I think at the time
I called it like Android A1-9
or something like that, but...
Yeah. It didn't really have a
good ring to it, you know?
Alright, so I spent... Well,
why not what you could call it
if you wanted to keep a similar
name to that?
What? You could call it Android
A1-3-X.
Why? Okay, just look at it in
your head.
Just look at that little
combination. Alex? Yeah. Nice!
I like that. Alright, we got a
name for our character.
So, uh, Hollywood, as always,
if you like this idea, being
that it's an original idea,
and being that I did 90% of the
talking for this episode, so...
It's not nearly as creative as
the other ideas. You know, I'll
give you this story for... for
the low, low cost of 25k...
Plus 2% of the gross. That's
all we're asking. That's...
That's a low amount. I mean,
yes,
there still needs some work.
There's still some action
scenes of like, you know, the
kids being chased by assassins
and...
Yadda yadda. And driving and...
Maybe finding another robot...
Android thing that tries to
kill them.
Who knows? Who knows? But the
point is...
There's some stuff that needs
to be fleshed out a little bit
more.
Uh, and we recognize that. Yeah.
So, 25k plus... What'd I say? 2
or 3% of the gross? Yeah.
And, uh... We'll say 3. Inflation.
Yeah. 3% of the gross. For
inflation.
And this should be a great, you
know, teen sci-fi... You know,
you could put this on the
Disney Channel.
Yeah. You could put this on
whatever Disney's family
channel used to be able to see
family,
now it's something else. Freeform.
You could put this on Freeform.
Exactly. It doesn't have to be
overly
violent. You have some tender
moments of romance. You know,
you have that moment where they
kiss.
You have the moment where it
seems like it's all gonna end.
It's all gonna end horribly.
Our main
character's gonna die. You have
family. Yeah. You have loving
parents. You have action,
suspense,
drama. It's all you need. And
let's be... We all know. I mean,
you could put this on Disney
Plus as well.
We all know that between Kit
and I... I mean, Kit, between
you and I, the people of your
generation
aren't that bright. Yeah. They'll
eat it up. Yeah, exactly. All
right. I don't know if that's
true,
but that's all we have for this
episode. If you, uh, like this
idea... It can be... It can be
yours for the
logo price of $50,000. Uh, yes.
But regardless, we do want to
hear from you. Feedback@Nontopical.com.
It's the most dominant place to
do that. Or if you want to be
like Dimce, we do believe in
something
called value for value. Which
means if you get value out of
what we do, show value in
return. It could be a
dollar, $5, $50. It could be
whatever number you conceive of.
33.33. Or a hypothetical $1,000.
$1,000. So, that about wraps it
up for episode 12. Do you have
anything else to add, Kit?
Two. Two? Yeah. That's what I
have to add.
I don't know why that makes any
sense, but your two has been
accepted. Do you know what math
is?
Yes. Exactly. All right,
everybody. Well, thank you for
listening to this episode of
Mostly Me Talking. Don't
worry. Maybe the next one will
have more of Kit. All right,
everybody. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Bye.
Bye.