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life now nobody cares
and we recently specifically
yesterday celebrated
Independence Day here in the
United States
America Day America Day it
meant so much to so many people
like who I don't know I really
don't know that there's that
much national pride anymore
except for like a different
definition of pride yeah which
you know fine if you're into
that I'm not I'm not being
critical
but but I'm just saying like I
don't know many people that go
around singing the I'm proud to
be an American song anymore
that's a thing oh yeah it's a
famous country song or a
country-ish rock a country rockabilly
I don't know
it's a famous song though what
about the star spain band does
anyone sing that yeah I mean
people like
stand up for it at like sports
games and everything but like
you know like I cry hearing
that song I'll
admit it I cry man tears
hearing that song but
unfortunately it's less about
the the pride that
that's supposed to instill in
you about the country and and
it's more about it's more about
a sense of loss that that's
what our country used to
represent like our country used
to represent
like freedom and being able to
like start fresh and to you
know have the land of
opportunity and
all that stuff and maybe for
some people it still is like
don't get me wrong there there
are immigrants
who move here and like they
they find opportunities and
there are still some stories of
people who start
with nothing in life and work
their way up to having like a
great life and having and you
know
doing some great things but at
the same time i think those
those stories are fewer and far
between
at this point you know yeah
yeah i don't know like i mean
if you think about it for a
moment
like everybody likes fireworks
like that's that's what people
think of for the fourth of july
in the
united states fireworks
fireworks aren't american they're
chinese yeah i mean don't get
me wrong i
mean like most things that we
take from other countries we of
course perfect it supposedly
supposedly
like some of the best fireworks
in the world are made in the
united states we have the best
fireworks
uh okay so some may say they're
the best fireworks yeah no but
that i mean it's true like once
we
borrowed something from another
culture we tend to then put our
own spin on it i mean like
think about
burgers burgers like hamburgers
hamburg hamburgs hamburgs come
from germany yeah i mean that's
that's just
literally in the title of the
thing joy many but but tell me
did did germany come up with
like
gold foil line truffle oil like
ultra juicy half pound sirloin
like top tier
burgers with like ultimate
bacon and whatnot no no germany
didn't come up with 150 burger
or two thousand dollar burger
or whatever the ridiculous this
is that's us we unfortunately
we came
up with it anyway yeah so we
could make more money yeah
capitalism and by the way i'm
not downplaying
capitalism it's still the best
economic system there is it's
just uh capitalism has its
issues someone
should make a new economic
system that works well what
would that look like don't ask
me i just said
something yeah but i'm saying
like what would a better
economic system even look like
less poverty
more equal pay and also not
relying on only money to live
okay so
i mean that's not that's not
quite communism um that's more
of a socialist type of system
but but the issue
but but but the issue always
becomes then how how do you
even everything out and how and
what defines what
should be supported for
everyone versus what shouldn't
be supported for everyone what
do you mean
like okay so let's say the
government provides a steady
staple of three meals a day for
every single human
person in their country
regardless of legal citizens or
not the government says we're
going to provide food for
everyone
one one where does the money
come from for that two well
what happens if i don't like
the meals that are being
provided by the government do i
still have the right to
purchase my own meals
you know like what if i'm
getting sick of like
the government ration pork and
beans for the fifth time this
week you see the way you do
this is that
you have meal coins and every
person gets a certain amount of
meal coins per day and then you
can use
those meal coins to to to get
food how do you determine the
number of meal coins that
people get
i mean it's the same amount for
everyone but that doesn't work
why not well because
what if the meal that i got
with my meal coin wasn't enough
what if i'm still hungry then
you're a glutton
you do realize people naturally
have different sizes you didn't
let me finish okay so you get
meal coins
and you can use them to to get
one meal at a restaurant of
your choice but then you also
can get money and then you can
choose
either use your money for
something else or use it to get
more food yeah but the problem
is then you have
people scalping meal coins what
do you mean like if you can
just trade in your meal coin to
get money no
you can't trade any meal
funding it month but you just
said you could no i said that
you also get money
like for doing a job but you
can't trade in meal you can use
money to buy more food but you
you get three meal
coins per day probably so that's
it can you like take all of
your meal coins for a week say
and go to the
grocery store and then also
like what about like you making
your own meals does one meal
coin equal
like just a meal or does one
meal coin equal like you being
able to purchase the
ingredients for a meal
and if you want to make your
own meal you got to pay money
okay so there's one problem i
see in it there's
one critical flaw i see in your
plan here so we're relying on
the restaurants which is great
because
we're giving the restaurants
money but the majority of
people like like how many
people are just going to
take their meal coins and eat
at mcdonald's well you could
probably like order packages of
like make your own
meal or something or something
or like packages of certain
ingredients and where does the
money for
the these meal programs come
from and people have jobs uh we
need more manufacturing in the
usa or like
whatever country this is we
need more manufacturing so that
we can make more money
okay good point like need to be
able to actually have
industries operating within the
country that
can make money yep so like how
do you balance that out with
other services though so you
have meal coins
what about like health coins
how does that work because you're
talking about like trillions
and trillions
of dollars here so i'm just
trying to understand the
economics of this are you
saying that like then
you're going to take the 25 to
30 percent of taxes that people
are already paying on their
income when
you combine it with state and
federal or and you're going to
like tax it at 50 instead or
are you saying
that you like are going to
obtain the money through other
means somehow for for what
thing for for the meal coins
and for health where does the
money come from uh corporations
will actually have to pay taxes
for one
all businesses have higher tax
value depending on on their
their like their uh not profit
uh
no that's actually the the way
to do it yeah the way to do it
is by profit because
if you do it by like if you say
oh well we're going to do it
based upon your your income
your reported income
well they can schedule e like
have tax harbors and junk like
that so profit but the but yeah
the net
amount that you make has to be
reported to your shareholders
and you have to legally report
that
accurately otherwise like you
get in trouble with the federal
trade commission and they shut
you down and then the
government
steals the money anyway when
and then and then obviously you
still have the normal people
pay taxes too but
corporations and businesses
they they still have to pay
more so no more loopholes no
more loopholes but
then how does that prevent the
corporations from charging
people more to make up for the
fact that they're not
they're not going to have to
pay taxes there has to be there
has to be like a a a base value
like there has to be a like a a
limit to how much you can
charge for specific quality
products
but then that's the government
imposing quality controls upon
yeah like quality definitions
upon things i i i was just
saying i just started no no i'm
trying to think this through as
a legitimate exercise like i'm
not saying your ideas without
merit i think honestly
humankind like there's no such
thing as an ideal way to run a
country or place and the
problem is
things fall apart at the
economic level whenever you
talk about something so if i
say i think that every
human person regardless of what
country they're in deserves
access to food clothing shelter
water health care yeah okay
the issue is not necessarily
that that's a bad idea the
issue is the economics of the
idea
and the issue is also that
people will take advantage of
that idea to make money or to
hustle the system also for
for like the police system and
like some of the other stuff it's
volunteer system
uh but here's the thing i you
you don't get a gun right away
if you're a police officer you
have to
like work for a certain amount
of time before you get like
handcuffs but what if the
volunteers are all
like power hungry assholes yeah
there would be limits in place
you see there you have to do
certain thing for
certain amount of time before
you can get to go up and get a
certain thing like handcuffs or
something
so like so the first job for
every officer is parking meters
and and like an internship or
something
yeah you get like a test you
get like a little test and then
you go off the level so you're
saying this is a
volunteer thing then how do
they afford to live uh hmm are
we still in the hypothetical
country where
everything's already paid for i'm
thinking i i i because i don't
want it to be a paid thing
because then it
can become too corrupted well
right but i'm saying so then
the argument would then be like
that maybe like you have
shifts so that they can still
work at a job with something
welcome to our volunteer police
department
i mean volunteer fire
departments exist so i guess a
volunteer police department
could exist
yeah and obviously the
motivation is that if you work
high up not only do you get to
defend your country
but you also get a gun yeah you
get you get to keep like handcuffs
and like you just have like
somebody on your block
that's like the local volunteer
police representative and they're
the ones that like
kind of like how there's
neighborhood watch associations
yeah and also like they'd
probably make money from
like donations and stuff you
know the police do have to buy
equipment and stuff so they
have to have
some money that's coming in
yeah yeah so like you can
donate to them who's gonna
donate to the police like
especially in california like
well i'm serious like there are
some states where it's like i
mean i never
said that this is for the u.s
this is true this is a
hypothetical i i i i can't
believe this on the spot
i don't know much about
politics this is true this is
all hypothetical yeah this is
what the this is the key
of non-topical nothing that we're
saying will work in reality i
mean it might it might
i don't know i think if you
started a brand new country let's
say the slate's clean
and the economics of that
country are already pre-decided
around hey
we're gonna build our economics
in such a way that the state
slash country will take care of
health care food water shelter
clothing basic needs and
somehow also like the
government setup would have
to be different different so
that it's not as correct yeah i
mean you'd have to you would
have to have like a
legitimate way of doing things
where again maybe maybe the
motivation to to join the
police force or like the
volunteer departments is that
whoever has the best score in
each of those like emergency
facilities gets to run for
president
gets to what gets to run for
president i mean there's your
motivation you gotta gotta do a
good job learn
some humility and then if it
turns out you suck the people
can vote you out i mean that's
interesting
i don't know that's that's just
an idea yeah i don't know i
just came over there i don't
know i think
i think the only way this works
though is if you have
manufacturing well that and you
have to have a
country that is literally
founded around these principles
yeah not necessarily that
everybody gets
equal pay but that there's a
bare minimum that everybody
gets yeah like again you get
you get the food you
get the meal coins and you get
certain amount of clothes and
stuff and you get something
like housing
services and it wouldn't suck
like like back in like when
they first started making the
city so everyone's
like in these really small cramped
compartments well yeah but
again you you have to figure
government's
always looking to pay as least
money as possible well you mind
on what you do what you make
giant 3d printers
and then you 3d print walls for
houses those do exist exactly
you 3d print your houses and
then like
you like they're decent like
like they they they have enough
to provide comfortably but you
know if
you want to get a better
looking house like they're not
going to be pretty houses they're
going to be
functional but if you want to
get like a pretty house you
gotta pay for that you know you
gotta spend your
money yeah same thing like
maybe for cars i don't know i
don't know if everyone will get
a car or not
yeah i mean maybe everyone will
get a bicycle well i mean but
that that becomes a little bit
of a problem
yeah like cars do represent a
certain level of freedom yeah
so unless this is like a super
small country
like where you could bike from
one side of the country to the
other in like a day yeah in
which
case you're not going to have
the manufacturing necessary to
facilitate into the
corporations
necessary if you give everyone
a car though that's going to be
a lot of money
like i like 3d printing a house
okay but you can't really like
entirely 3d print a car i don't
think no
no no i don't think that's how
it works you can 3d print
bicycles but i don't think you
can 3d print
an entire car i know but all
that still costs money
regardless like yeah and if you're
3d printing it i feel
like 3d printing is like at
least a little cheaper than
like maybe because you're
buying like a bunch of
one materials so like people
might like cut you deals
because you're buying so much
welcome to the 3d
printed world look it's only
for like the the basic stuff it
needs to be functional and and
comfortable
enough and then if you want
something that looks pretty you
pay for it what if i want netflix
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the most important thing i
think no political parties ever
i i i concur with
that uh some people would argue
that political parties are free
speech but they're not they are
they are limiting they are not
just limited corporations all
in half themselves yeah they
they are not-for-profit
businesses that hold a lot of
power and make profit and and
make a lot of money
yeah and they like i i still
kind of like the idea of like
few people from each emergency
facility get to run for
president if they've done a
really good job and like people
like them like i kind of i kind
of agree
with you in some ways on that
because they're like the
smarterly ones they have
experience if they're at the
well i think and people in
order to be able to be part of
local office and definitely
national office
you have to have been in some
kind of service position where
you've served your community
um and where you've
distinguished yourself as
somebody who truly has the best
interests of the
community at heart now don't
get me wrong that's hard to do
i know yeah it's really hard
because i i like
this idea this is actually
turning out to be a decent idea
yeah if only we could actually
like put it into
practice don't worry the fbi
will steal us away someday fbi
cia one of them you know like
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gentlemen our next our next
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hey hey what was your water
torture session like the other
day oh it wasn't that bad john's
a little
bit more lenient but janice
holy cow i don't know what her
issue is with me she just she
just like gallons
like she's just pouring gallons
of water like john just does a
nice little drip this lady's
just pouring gallons
like all right back to what you
were saying what was i saying
uh you were talking about how
how you
kind of agree with yeah i i
think that you know to it
shouldn't just be like a lawyer
who has enough
money and can raise enough
money for advertising and stuff
but i really don't like that it's
kind of annoying
like also i really don't like
lawyers much in the first place
because originally you were
supposed to kind of
serve your own trial no no the
no that's not that's not true
there have been lawyers around
for
yeah hundreds of hundreds of
years in the beginning like it
was if if some if if you did
something
someone that they didn't like
and they sued you it would be
you versus them
no in the beginning there was
no lawsuit in the beginning
there was a chance that if you
did something wrong to
someone else they would come
and kill you that's not what i
learned in history it depends
on how far
back in history you go i'm
saying like you'll remember if
you go back to biblical times
there was the the
the discussion of an eye for an
eye meaning if you cause harm
to me i get to cause equal harm
to you i'm saying
like uh united states the confederate
states it was like you you go
to a court and it's that's you
versus
them that that's no oh well
that's what i was well let me
put it this way the reason i
can say no
is it's enshrined in the very
constitution that you have yeah
the right to representation
confederate
states well the confederate
states were a whole disaster
unto themselves okay you're
citing the
confederate states which are no
longer a thing right back to
the theoretical state with its
own
economic system honestly i i
disagree on the lawyer part and
here's the reason why well yeah
like but
i i i'm i'm saying for like
president well for president
yeah i i think the reason why
people
make it into the presidency
aside but current current
president aside who have legal
expertise is
they understand legalese yeah
they understand the nature of
law and how to write laws and
how to you know
what it'd be it'd be cool in
this hypothetical country like
law documents would have two
versions the law speak
version and the normal people
version yeah i think that
having the terms of service
actually laid out in
a way that people could
understand yeah oh that's
something speaking of that this
country would totally
turn software companies on
their on their heads because we'd
like yeah
end user license agreements do
not represent a legally binding
contract in our society yeah
they if you want to protect
yourself and if you want to
make sure that you're
protecting your users
then you better be doing it
according to the written law as
opposed to writing a big legal
jargon
document that basically that
nobody reads oh don't get me
wrong you still have to have
privacy policies you
still have to have data
security policies yeah like
there'd be some things that
they can control but
but the end user license
agreement will not represent a
binding agreement between you
and the user at a
legal level yeah anyway this
could theoretically work it
could theoretically
theoretically i mean this all
started with meal coins you
gotta remember meal coins which
are not a bad idea hey can you
can you mine meal coins like is
this like a new crypto no i i i
again that would lead to too
much corruption crypto crypto
it has to be it has to be three
per day and then like maybe you
can get one at night like in
the office we'll do the the the
the the the the what do you
call it the amusement park meal
plan you get three meals and a
snack yeah basically yeah i i
think that that's a good basis
now in terms of health
that's this i don't know if we
can say free healthcare i don't
know maybe i think i i would
like it to be volunteer service
but then you'd get all the dumb
people i think the issue with
healthcare
is you would have to undercut
the entire insurance
pharmaceutical cabal
yeah and that's really hard
also uh similarly and no no
advertising for like medical
stuff for what
medical stuff yeah well i think
for like over-the-counter
medicines it's fine like you
know like the things
where it's like here's this one
thing that this thing might be
able to do here's a bunch of
side effects
oh yeah that that might kill
you yeah they're just just just
a few they you know there might
be some
weird sound effects it's it's
only side effects not sound
effects it's only one thousand
don't worry it's not
that many oh a thousand i
thought you meant like the the
cost no potential side effects
the cost of the
medicine is a thousand no
because i'm saying saying the
amount of potential the amount
of potential side effects
so uh so uh so healthcare
system how we do that well i i
would envision that basic
healthcare
i think that the law would have
to be that it's it's completely
not for profit meaning if you're
running a hospital if you're
running a facility it has to be
on a not-for-profit basis we
have basic
government healthcare that
covers most of the ordinary
stuff do they get government
funding yeah yeah
you cover basic healthcare that
covers most of your typical
things including cancer
arthritis stuff like that and
then you know you also have
supplemental plans
that you can purchase on top of
that
you know also we we should
probably have more humane
systems of farming
maybe if we can regenerative
farming yeah that's not that's
not as hard as people think
yeah people
like to make it all it's so
difficult it's so difficult but
it actually isn't it's just
that they
don't want to do rotational
farming and they want to keep
using harsh chemicals and all
that stuff fresh
produce is good for you fresh
produce is good for you and so
is meat both both those things
are good for you
uh it depends on type of meat
in general processed meat not
as well well i'm saying meat
like normal meat
normal meat yeah i'm normal
meat not overly processed okay
so some more natural meat so
not mr beast burger
which by the way for the record
is absolutely disgusting oh you're
gonna offend all the mr beast
viewers now i don't care
look all right if i need to say
something nice as well lunch
lee and feastables are pretty
darn good
especially feastables yeah
feastables good chocolate you
know not what normal americans
would like but good chocolate
so healthcare we continue that
so healthcare um not for profit
funded by government covers
basic horrible diseases
yeah like the only thing is
dealing with the bed problem
and the care problem because
one of the biggest
issues that there are right now
in countries that have subsidized
healthcare is having to wait
like oh
we have to wait like a month to
get a cat or two to three
months to get a cat scan why
because
there's only so many slots to
be had you know so like it's
like well we can only handle so
many people
and the government only gives
us so much money so then it
becomes kind of pay for play in
that
it's well can you donate to the
healthcare system in this
hypothetical country economic
system i mean
sure yeah because most of the
emergency things i feel would
have like donations like they
take donations
yeah but that still causes a
fundamental problem that if you
can afford to play for the
supplemental plan
you might get boosted ahead uh
i i don't think you'd be
allowed to skip plan
so it doesn't matter if you're
paying extra or not what you
get is what you get if you pay
extra there's
there's there's a chance that
they like might be able to get
another cat scan though and
then if if
you paid a majority for that
you get to go first maybe so so
if you have the half a million
dollars to
buy a cat scan machine you're
one person though and then
everyone else can use it it's
not only yours
right but i'm still making the
point like the argument yeah
but who who would pay half a
million
dollars to oh yeah no i get
that so but what i'm saying is
if you have supplemental and
also some of
that money would go to like
other stuff for right but i'm
saying if you have the
supplemental healthcare
it doesn't push you ahead in
the line you start to wait the
same i don't know a good way to
do it
you still have to wait the same
amount of time no i think
supplemental healthcare only
gives you
services that are outside of
the normal services so for
example if you want to be able
to like you
have a supplemental healthcare
plan that says oh if you want
to get plastic surgery aside
from like
weight related stuff that is
actually vetted meaning not
just like somebody that's
looking to lose 20 pounds
with somebody that's like
significantly overweight that's
a different thing but i'm
saying like you
have services like plastic
surgery like there there are
wellness services where it's
like oh i want to
do these like special anti-aging
treatments i want to have you
know maybe you do something
like i want to
have a lower overall co-pay so
i'll pay more up front and that
goes directly to the government
but like i have
a lower co-pay than everyone
else like stuff like that but
you're not gonna like you're
gonna pay
for extra services or lower co-pay
but you're not paying to get
the long to skip the line if
you make
a substantial donation which is
tax deductible like let's say
like on your tax return like on
our tax returns
we get a lovely little check
box that says do you want to
contribute to the re-elect the
president campaign
no i don't well like us on
their tax forms it would be
like do you want to donate to
the local order of
police do you want to donate to
the local order of fire
department do you want to
donate to the health care yeah
and see see this this the the
only way that this system would
fall apart is if people aren't
kind
well that's not gonna last very
long is it look i'm trying to
be optimistic here this is this
is this
is difficult for me well this
is true you're one of the most
pessimistic people i know so
airing i agree
though and actually the true
the same holds true for the
united states and other
countries as well is
that it's just that we have
failed well no no you cut me
off before i finish my
statement sorry if people
were fundamentally looking to
serve the greater good of their
community of their state and of
the national
interests if people were not so
busy clamoring over each other
and specifically in government
i'm not
saying individual people but if
people in government were and
businesses especially like big
corporations
were actually looking to serve
the public good like as a whole
rather than looking into how
can i line my
pockets how can i um how can i
you know take the people that
donated me the most money and
pass a bill
that will give them more money
um things would work much
better yeah like but they don't
yeah like
the whole giant spending bill
that they're passing or working
on passing very important
question yes
standing army yes or no i think
a standing army is important
but we can't pay as much if it's
if
there's no war well that would
be ridiculous well yeah wartime
pay is different than peacetime
pay that's
obvious similarly it would
probably also be like donations
and volunteer most of the time
you know yeah but i think
the key the key hi the key is
you have to have an army to
protect your country and navy
and
ships or sorry not ships uh uh
the air force yeah you have to
have something yeah because
like
first of all i mean especially
if the country does end up
working as well as we imagine
everybody's going
to want to try to get in or
take it over yeah or corrupt it
yeah and so you need a way to
protect
your people yep and you also
need a way to enforce
immigration that is fair and
just
but also gives people a a good
path to get in also another
idea you you can volunteer uh
like just being a
normal person uh and start at
the lowest level of the
military or if you've been like
a policeman or a
firefighter for like a good
long while and it moves up the
ranks you get placed higher up
in the military
yeah i think it depends on the
type of role that you have yeah
in the fire department or
police department
just because you are in a
hierarchical uh hierarchical
service position of some kind
does not necessarily
equate to you being a good
fighting force yeah like and
like for the firefighters they
probably get more
technical stuff yeah i think
firefighters would need to go
through a much more rigorous
training
to transition over they might
get like put in like a lower
class like still like decently
high up because
they have to i think police
officers like yeah because
police officers have to have a
certain level
of hand-to-hand combat training
medical training um being a
strategic training all of that
you know what
their their military training
would probably be much less and
they'd probably be able to get
into
things much more quickly yeah
but yeah i i like this
government idea it's good if if
only there were
people that were kind enough to
actually not corrupt it yeah
and i mean you could say the
same thing about
like i said the united states
if you look at the constitution
and actually read it as written
i mean
there's still some sketchy
stuff in it oh i'm not saying
there isn't some sketchy stuff
in there but i'm saying like
you know the constitution as it
was meant to be was not
horrible no the constitution
has not meant the
constitution became on the
other hand well and it's
especially with like people
people say the constitution
gives the right for this and it
gives the right for no you
already have that no exactly
the the constitution
the constitution says you
already have this right the
state is not allowed to infringe
upon it yeah of
course you know selectively
interpreted
by whichever political power
party happens to be in power at
the moment also there there
should be more
laws protecting the minors in
this in this country yeah i i
feel like we don't have enough
laws protecting the
minors well i would like to
correct you in your statement
and we don't have good laws
protecting
no i i want to correct you
further in your statement what
we don't have enough parents
protecting minors yeah
and that's the issue i think
that i mean you pointed this
out the other day when we were
at a big box store
yes there there was like kid
baby it was basically a baby
there was baby and baby was
just playing on
mom's cell phone uh it might
have been talking to dad but we
don't know might have been i i
doubt it yeah
it could have been talking to
that because i saw it like it
looked like a video chat of
some kind
yeah but the problem is that it
also could have been a short it
could have been a tick tock
yeah so we
don't really know but um look i
don't want to limit freedoms
and i don't want to criticize
parents but
but there do what to be some
protection but having a kid
under a certain age participate
in the internet
aside from school and aside
from supervised ways of
handling it probably not the
best idea now there
are levels of that so what i
don't want to do is turn around
and say like have parents
yelling at me
being like you know so you're
saying my kid can't watch
youtube you're saying my kid
can't do this that's not fair
no no that's not what i'm
saying what i'm saying is it is
up to you
to do the necessary due
diligence to make sure your kid
is not getting into stuff
that they shouldn't and there
is a reason why the
international standard for
being able to set up
an account without parental
consent is 13 13. and actually
in some countries it's going up
to 16. smart um
and that should be what it is
for our country and the thing
is that's not enforced yeah
like there's no
way to prove parental consent
was given it's presumed and we
also can't like track them
through their
computers and stuff because
that would be a that'd be a bit
too communist well actually
okay i mean yeah
we don't know if you're going
to do that there were laws
passed in the united states uh
specifically the
law i believe is called copa
which is the child a child
online privacy protection act i
believe
and what it basically says is
that's why if you sign up on
youtube
and your account is marked as a
child account so it's marked as
like under 13 or whatever
you know they can't show you
ads and you're not allowed to
engage with comments and they're
not
allowed to have an idea they're
not allowed to capture any data
on you i have had an idea okay
what if like on your own
document you get a unique
number and when you make an
account you have to put in
that number and then it will it
will it will like it only it'll
it will only look at the age
here's the problem
the problem that you run into
and this is what people are
actually afraid of because what
you're
talking about is having a
universal id of some kind oh
yeah and yeah that would be a
tracking system right
right for the internet like you
know there's a country that
does this it's called china
yeah they
have what's called like a
social like networking score
like and then the social credit
score yeah if you
go online and you say something
yeah it's directly tracked back
to you we can't do that and
actually
in great britain it's even
better yeah don't they have
something similar where you can't
like
yeah say anything bad about
anyone yeah if you're on
twitter x whatever any social
networking site and you say
uh like even if you're making a
joke which you shouldn't be
making necessarily jokes about
other
cultures but you make an off-color
joke all somebody has to be
like is this deeply offends
my cultural sensibilities this
deeply offends my closely held
personal beliefs and the uk
social
media police come knocking at
your door and like charge you
with crimes against humanity
yeah because you
offended somebody dang it like
that's a hate crime we can't do
that then but then how do we
verify it i
want to protect the miners i
think that's important the only
way you can effectively do this
let's put them all in orphanages
i mean no the way that you have
to do this is still somewhat
sketchy
but i think it's only that it
works so you set up the account
for the child yeah and while
you're
setting it up so like during
the setup process you you have
to put in like a driver's
license number
whether you're signing up as an
adult or you're signing up as a
minor if you're signing up as a
minor you
have to say this is my child
here is my driver's id or
whatever yeah there is a review
process that takes
place and the minute that
review is completed that data
is deleted yeah and you have to
have double and
triple redundancies to make
sure that one that data is
encrypted two that that data is
held and stored
perhaps on a separate server
that does not have a direct
connection to the outside
internet uh would
would there be people involved
or would it be ai because you
might be able to do that with
ai and then
no people would have seen the
well actually you can't direct
you couldn't put it onto a
machine that
doesn't have access to the
internet because you'd have to
have a way of validating the
information which
means connecting to external
databases yeah but regardless
it would have to be some kind
of double
or triple security redundancy
system yeah but my question is
would any other people see it i
think
when necessary yeah but there
can only be like three people
who are permitted to see it
most of the time
if at all i don't know if you
can do that i don't know i don't
know man because and the reason
i say
that is like you might need
manual review under multiple
circumstances so let's say for
example
i sign up for my account using
my driver's license but then i
also sign up for my son like i
get my son's
account set up and i put my
driver's license in there yeah
well my driver's license is now
technically
associated with two accounts
yeah so that might flag um and
you might have like a
validation request that
goes to your primary account
saying well actually no the
data wouldn't be stored so it
wouldn't be able
to double check that but then
that's problematic because then
anybody could use the same
driver's id
500 times why do miners make it
so hard to protect them this is
irritating yeah kids are stupid
we hate the
kids i mean what look look it's
just general truth kids are
stupid i mean they're not like
that it's not
like they're maliciously stupid
they're just their brains aren't
formed yet that's just the
reality of the
situation yeah kids do dumb
things that was part of growing
up yeah so i don't know but i
agree with you
overall that there need to be
better protections for children
but on the flip side i think
there need to
be better laws in general
regulating parenting and i'm
not saying regulating like
determining who can be a
parent and who can't but i'm
saying like
a certain level of enforcement
of the other rules and we haven't
figured out quite how to do
that but like
all right let's be honest
you didn't have a social media
account until what 11 i think
11 or 12.
and that was a youtube channel
i set up for you yeah so you
could upload your videos you
could argue though that i had
minecraft when i was eight i
just didn't yeah but we didn't
remember when i first went we
got you minecraft
when you were eight but did we
let you do any shared servers
no no period yeah we and we're
not oh
bored blue heron blue heron um
it looked majestic and that
wasn't to like cut you off from
society we
we weren't like people bad
therefore you shouldn't
interact with people no it was
more like
we know how social media gamifies
attention we know how social
media does open up certain
risks and now
it's even worse and now it's
even worse so there are sketchy
things that can happen on
social media there are
people who are predators that's
not the reason to stay off of
social media i mean it is a
reason
but the primary reason is to
keep your brain from thinking
in a way that engagement and
thumbs up
and liking is a way of life and
also short attention spans aren't
fun i mean
i mean as a as a as a as a an
embracer of the adhd lifestyle
as an involuntary uh embracer
of the adhd lifestyle i'll say
yeah i mean attention span can
be a little bit of a difficult
what were we talking about
again yeah so
yeah so so how do we protect
minors
well again we have to have some
kind of internet protection put
in place i i think
honestly maybe there should be
some kind of like parenting
curriculum
but the difficult thing with a
parenting curriculum
again we have to presume altruism
here unfortunately if we looked
at this from like
a normal society view at this
point this would never flop
because if we said let's put
together a
parenting curriculum for all
the people in the united states
it would immediately become
well do do do we do we talk
about child gender studies or
not do we talk about guns do we
talk
about like it's like no you don't
give the step by step on like
fully raising the kid but you
give a good general overview of
hey
this is generally how to keep
your kids safe online including
you don't hand kids a screen
until they're x and x age or
without supervision we might
not be able to enforce it but
we would
greatly appreciate it but like
the point is like to have a
course where it's like this is
the impact
hey do you want to keep your
child safe this is the impact
social media has here are the
scientific
studies back it up like on a
forming brain yeah here here
are the studies about like
child abandonment meaning like
you go off and do your own
thing and leave your child to fend
for
themselves but then give them
up and keep in mind there's a
balance with that because you
don't want
a child to be overly attached
to their parents either so it's
like a give and take i know
what you do
what in like high school or
something you have a video and
and it can be about that
oh yeah i'm sure high school
schoolers will file that away
oh it may not yeah i don't know
i think the
parenting course should be
mandated like whenever it
becomes apparent somebody is
going to be bringing a
pregnancy to term even if they've
already been through it once
before yeah like it's like with
divorce
with with divorce it doesn't
matter how many times you go
through the divorce
like it doesn't matter if you're
divorced three four five times
in connecticut at least every
time you get divorced you have
to go if there are children
involved
you have to go through like an
impact of divorce on children
course
period yeah so they probably
have something like that too
well yeah i'm saying also
religion yes or no
so here's what i'm saying i
think this is a good middle of
the road
very similar to the united
states the state will not
recognize a state religion nor
will it prohibit the
free practice of the religion
provided that said free
practice of religion does not
infringe upon other laws so
for example if your free
practice of religion means that
you're getting high as fuck and
you have underage
kids in your church as well no
that ain't gonna fly and i'm
not saying like i'm not saying
anything about drug
policy at this point um but the
big difference for religion is
not tax exempt oh yeah so you
can have a
religion and i'm fine with you
having religion but you're
gonna pay taxes it might be a
lower tax bracket but
not by much i mean unless your
religion doesn't make money no
religion definitely makes money
yeah dude
like don't get me wrong the
catholic church has made its
share of money but like
the southern mega churches like
their pastors give sermons like
hey you know what i was praying
to god and
god really said you know what
we need we need a second
private jet to be able to say
what well jay you
know like god told me you
should sell your first private
jet and donate the money to the
money to the local
food pantry no no my
interpretation of god's will is
different and it's the right
one yeah really is it
yeah we gotta tax those
religions that make too much
money no no i know i'm saying
in general
i feel like it'd be probably
similar to like the the company
thing where like it's based off
of how much
profit you make yeah religion
is not tax exempt period yeah
it is a business now it might
be a business
that's serving the public good
but it's still a business yeah
it might even be a not-for-profit
business
but it's still a business but
you have to prove that you're
not making any money or that it's
adhering to not-for-profit
standards and even not-for-profits
i think in this country
if you have a certain amount in
savings or if you have a
certain amount in whatever that's
going to
get taxed so i don't know maybe
you can't do not-for-profits
but then you can't do for-profits
for
medical so it's really hard to
figure out how to do that
because not-for-profits are not
taxable in the u.s
but like there's probably like
a certain how do you make
something how do you make a
standard of
not-for-profit while being taxable
there there needs to be like a
certain set of things that you
need to
check off for it to be a true
not-for-profit that isn't taxable
and otherwise it will be
considered
taxable i think that's true
today too but there's ways to
get around it so we'd have to
make the
tax code pretty clear yeah but
i'm saying religion should not
be should not be tax-free they
should
not get to survive rent-free
just because they purport to
serve the greater good
especially when
they're demon demonstrably
doing things with the money
instead of like investing in
charitable work
like they're they're buying
private jets i'm sorry that's
not allowed yeah now we talked
about religion
yeah let's talk about something
that can for certain people
under certain categories
cause religious experiences and
that's drugs so we already
talked about pharmaceutical
drugs let's
talk about recreational drugs
them hallucinogenic mushrooms
legal so here here's where i
stand on this
and there there has to be a
line somewhere so like there's
there's got to be a line
between like
hardcore like crack cocaine
heroin and other things that
like having it once can really
mess you up
and other drugs that are more
recreational like alcohol
marijuana cigarettes cigars
pipe tobacco i mean
for like the the common ones
probably probably like what is
here age of 21 to drink and
maybe like the same thing for
smoking yeah and i think
i think well i think it depends
hear me out i think if the
alcoholic beverage is at five
percent or less
18. okay because like if you're
having one standard what about
cigarettes and stuff now that
could be 21. yeah um i think
hallucinogenics
it depends on the nature of the
hallucinogenic i think at
minimum hallucinogenics should
be legal for medicinal purposes
under controlled circumstances
now the recreational side i
think that what you do on the
recreational side is you say
okay
let's say like the medicinal
dose makes you trip balls for
like two hours the recreational
would need to be something that
like lasts a fraction of that
yeah
yeah like at most an hour like
as for the hallucinogens and
that's very hard to control
because different people have
different reactions but like
average average time would be
an hour
yeah like on a live test source
yeah yeah i i think that that
the difference between the
medicinal version and the
regular version is that the
regular version like the legal
version you're going to come
down from it
in a relatively like short
amount of time span versus the
medicinal version you may be
having a very very long hallucinogenic
experience but you have a
trained
psychological professional in
the room with you to help you
to process and i think that
that would be fine yeah um i
don't know about other drugs as
much like uh there's mdma there's
uh molly which i think is mdm
day
yeah just say 21 for the same
there's party like there's
party like there are party
drugs that just make you feel
kind of loopy and make colors
brighter and stuff we so i don't
know on that um the one
exception like i said the
exception being you'd have to
do additional testing on
cocaine before you legalize any
aspect of it yeah um i think
heroin
heroin so again just to explain
the effects of heroin heroin
heroin heroin is a drug that
doesn't make pain go away it
just makes you not give a shit
so what i would say about
heroin is legal for medicinal
yeah just medicinal and what i
and canada has a great way of
dealing with this from what i've
heard
in Canada they will give some
patients heroin or the medical
equivalent of
heroin after a major surgery
and they will keep giving a
specific dose to the
person until they say hey this
is not working anymore could
you give me more
of it at which point they will
change you over to more
traditional pain
management medication so yeah
because the minute that
somebody starts feeling
like they're dependent on it
they and and even and also you
could say here's
here's some more heroin it's
just it's just different type
well no but it's not
well no you're not gonna
deceive patients but I'm saying
in terms of recreational
drugs I think the key for a new
country like a new brand new
country is to be as
objective as possible about it
and not to stigmatize it yeah
because one of the
big problems we have in the
United States is addiction well
yeah is addiction but
that's due to a variety of
reasons mental emotional situational
but one of the big
problems is we are very very
good at saying this thing bad
don't do it until
you reach a certain age then oh
it's okay hmm like the
education around something
should not be this
thing bad this thing good yeah
and the drug education in
classrooms should be here are
the
list of drugs legal and illegal
that you may encounter in your
everyday life either hearing
mentioned on the news you know
seeing you know sold etc.
these are the impacts positive
and negative of these drugs yep
and to repeatedly have that be
part of education so have it
like right like pretty much
every year yeah like sixth
grade seventh grade eighth
grade like anything from sixth
grade up yeah part of the
educational system is we're
educating you not on whether
drugs are good or bad but on
what they do but on what they
do
maybe throw maybe throw
pharmaceutical drugs in there
too so you can be like hey by
the way yeah pharmaceutical
drugs have side effects too let's
look at some of the common
pharmaceutical drugs and their
side effects and then it's like
every pharmaceutical drug has
like two or three pages in the
textbook with all the side
effects
those poor kids the drug
companies are like suing the
textbook companies like hey you
can't be pushing this stuff
what are you talking about
about we got this we got this
data from your own like drug
fact sheet yeah but
you can't put that out there we
just did why not it's available
freely on your
website but but you're gonna
scare people away from using
the drugs no we
listed the positive effects
with the negative and it's up
to the person we
state multiple times it's up to
you and your doctor to decide
what to use these
foreign land yeah and we only
covered the basic ones we only
covered the ones that
are more well known yeah we
didn't cover your like one-off
drugs or anything we
just covered like I mean unless
you want us to cover yeah but
we just covered
things like you know ibuprofen
and Tylenol and the flu shot
and stuff like that and
even with the flu shot like if
you look at your list of side
effects it's not
nearly as bad as your list of
side effects for chemotherapy
drugs so
okay there are two more things
to decide well we don't have
that much time do we
yeah we can talk about it
inside okay one schools how
does work and they are the same
or I I think the way schools so
first of all there should be
some kind of national
standard for performance and it's
not just about like can your
kid pass the test it needs to
be both
emotional development and
intellectual development yeah
it can't just be like well we
did you know we made
Johnny crammed for the state
math test and he got high
scores and then tomorrow he
forgets.
Like, first of all, that's only
measuring intellectual.
It's not measuring, hey, is
this kid's emotional needs
being met?
And I know it sounds weird to
say this.
And the bullies would all get Fs.
Right.
I know it's weird to be saying
this, but I honestly think that
some level of psychological
evaluation,
not like, you know, sit down in
a chair with a bright spotlight
on you in a dark room,
but like, no, just like
throughout the year.
Just ask how they're doing.
A school psychologist checks up,
reports back things, you know,
to parents,
asks parents, hey, what's going
on here?
You know, like if Johnny comes
in and says, like, my dad hit
me, well, that junk's got to be
investigated.
Yeah.
You know.
Especially since this country
cares very much about minor
protection.
Yeah.
How are you dealing with, like,
oh, I am being bullied.
Okay.
Well, what is happening?
Bring up the situation.
Explain things.
Because sometimes somebody's
being bullied and sometimes it's
an emotional response where it's
not really bullying,
but the person is so insecure
in themselves.
So you have to make that
distinction.
And that's not to say that I'm
calling out victims.
Like, I'm not siding with the
bullies here.
I'm saying that there is true
bullying where there are true
victims and that junk needs to
be taken care of.
But there are also situations
where somebody's like, well, I
feel bullied.
And there, it might have been
an interesting comment.
And while the person that made
that comment might need to, you
know, be a bit more sensitive.
Be more sensitive.
It also is the person is being
a little bit sensitive too.
And those underlying causes of
that sensitivity need to be
addressed.
Yeah.
I think in terms of schools,
though, there does have to be
some kind of national
curriculum.
It does have to cover health.
It has to cover sexual well-being,
obviously.
And sexual well-being based on...
Should there be stuff about
mental health?
Multiple studies.
Mental health.
Mental health should be
incorporated in it.
Logic at later ages should be
incorporated in it.
Funding for school.
Again, largely state funded.
Yeah.
Well, it's town.
Maybe it's funded at the town
and state and country level.
Yep.
But I think we need to build a
program in there where if there
are private schools,
we have to work to make the
private schools accessible.
So, one, the private schools
are still going to be held to
the same standard of minimum.
Yeah.
Or minimum standard as everyone
else.
There could still be religious
schools.
There could still be private,
like, well-to-do schools.
There can be technical schools
that cover more programming and
stuff.
But they all must...
And colleges.
Yes.
But they all must meet the bare
minimum.
For that type of school.
And on top of that, if a public
school kid wants to go to a
private school,
then the state is going to
offset the cost of that somehow.
So, it's not going to be
limited to just, like, the
wealthy kids.
Yeah.
And I know that's like, well,
wait, the whole point of
private school is so that you
can have a different education.
Well, yeah, you're going to
have a different education, but
it's just going to be available
to more people.
So, if you want your kid to go
to a religious school,
Christian, Muslim, Buddhist,
whatever.
Islamic.
Yeah, I said Muslim.
Oh, yeah.
But that's fine.
Then they should have access to
do so without it costing $5,000
for the year.
Yeah.
Or $10,000 a year.
It's just ridiculous.
So, that's where I stand on
schools as a whole.
Okay.
And what's your final question?
So, one final question is, if
this country were to take off
and become known as the most
amazing country ever,
What are the rules for the
immigrants and refugees?
It's hard to say.
I think when it comes to
refugees, refugees, first of
all, there's a vetting process.
Like, you have to be able to
show us proof that the kid that
you're bringing with you is
actually your child or is
actually related to you in some
way.
Or the people that you're
bringing over are coming of
their own free will.
So, interpreters, etc.
Yeah.
But for refugees, I think there
has to be a demonstrable
conflict taking place in their
country.
It can't just be like, well, I'm
impoverished and I don't feel
like my country is taking good
care of me.
It has to be like, my life is
in danger.
Yeah.
And that's specifically for,
what do you call it?
For refugees.
Yeah.
For immigration, I don't know
specifically the best way to
word it.
But I think that there has to
be a very, you know, clearly
laid out process.
There will probably be some
kind of quota because you can't
like just rapidly accept people
in.
Yeah.
I don't think that it should be
expensive.
No.
I don't think that there should
be like an overly complicated
process.
But I do think that it's
several parts.
Part one is validating you are
who you say that you are.
And that you don't really have
a massive criminal record.
That anybody coming with you is
who they say they are.
And then I think the second
part is general education about
laws and like the key aspects
of the founding of the country
and that type of stuff.
And then the third part is kind
of ongoing, even after you
become a citizen, ongoing kind
of, I don't want to call it
integration because that then
sounds like brainwashing.
But like ongoing services to
make sure, hey, are you doing
okay?
Do you feel like you're part of
the local community?
Like what can we do to help you
to feel more productive?
Are you having a difficult time
learning whatever the language
is?
Are you having a difficult time
finding work?
Are you having, is your kid
having a difficult time at
school?
And making sure that we have
things available to make that
process easier.
And I think honestly, there
should be a like minimum
documentation fees for this
stuff.
And maybe like costs for
background checks.
But it shouldn't be like $5,000,
$10,000, $15,000.
It should be, okay, we ran a
background check.
You know, we double checked
your ID online.
That was like $50.
The education is included, but
there is like, we do have to
charge for certain
documentation.
Like when you get your
citizenship, when you have your
temporary citizenship.
You have to have a tax ID
number because you're going to
pay taxes.
Temporary visas.
Yeah, temporary visas, that
type of stuff.
So you do have to pay for that
stuff, but it's not going to be
thousands of dollars.
It's going to be whatever a
legitimate document processing
fee might look like.
And last but not least, like
the actual citizenship.
Yeah, I'm sure that there's
going to be, you know, a
document charge for that
because we have to get you into
all the databases and
everything.
Whatever that looks like.
Because keep in mind, you have
to pay the overheads of those
databases.
So yeah, I think that there has
to be a vetting process.
I think there's also a maximum
quota based upon the
sustainable population that
your country can handle.
And the sustainable population
that your country can handle is
based on what industry is there
in your country versus the
amount of people that you have,
the amount of people that you
expect to be born natively and
immigration.
So if you hit a certain limit
of, well, we know we can only
sustain including births that
are going to take place this
year, current population and
immigration, we can only handle
5 million total citizens.
And because of that, our
immigration cap this year is at
like 500,000 people.
That's the cap.
And unfortunately, once that
cap is hit, you're going to
have to wait until another time.
And that also has to take care,
take into consideration
temporary visas for work and
stuff as well.
Because sometimes people come
to the country to work for six
months.
Well, that's still a body in
the country that has to be
cared for.
It's not like, you know, you
could just be like, well, you
know, there might be some
flexibility, but really all of
the immigration and stuff has
to be taken into consideration
of the well-being of the
country as a whole.
So we want to give people
opportunities.
Refugees, there's a little bit
of a different standard there
because you literally are
dealing with somebody who is
under life and death situation.
Whether they're escaping from a
cartel or whether their country
is just going to absolute crap.
Yeah.
And then you have to question
at what point does that refugee
situation become, we send you
back or we get you into the
citizenship program.
And what is the wait time for
that?
So there's still a lot of
things that have to be ironed
out.
And it's not a simple thing.
Yeah.
But this is still a decent idea
though.
And I think if you did come
over from another country and
you overstayed your temporary
visa or you snuck in.
Look, I hate to say it, but
there are laws for a reason.
So, like, if you legitimately
just forgot to file an
extension, then we'll call you
up and be like, hey, you're
still here, but your thing
ended 30 days ago.
Do you need to file an
extension?
Did you just forget?
And you only get so many
extensions.
Yeah.
At which point then, sorry, you're
out.
Or you can, like, reply to
visas and something.
Possibly, but you don't want to
reward people for, like.
Well, like, if, like, while you're,
while you still have temporary
visas.
Yeah, but it depends on what
the quotas look like at that
point too.
Yeah.
Because if there are other
people in line that have been
waiting to get in.
Yeah.
Just because you're on a
temporary visa doesn't mean
that, oh, well, we're just
going to let you jump the line.
So there's, there's got to be a
method to that madness, so to
speak.
Now, if you're just straight up
in the country illegally.
First of all, we will run a
criminal background check on
you.
Secondly.
Bye.
Like, and I hate being so mean
about that.
Like, well, there's mitigating
circumstances.
Okay.
Somebody that comes here
illegally, they don't have a
criminal record.
And maybe they have their kids
with them and they were
escaping from an abusive person.
Or, or they're like, they, like,
they, like, they, me, like, the
whole thing where they, the mace
and stuff on the farms and
stuff.
No, that, that would be
temporary work visa.
Yeah, but there are some that
do it illegally.
So, like, what would happen
then?
Well, first of all, that's a
horrible stereotype, presuming
that, you know, illegal
immigrants are the ones.
Okay.
Well, still, the point is then,
you should be offering a way
for those, for those people who
want to work to come here
legally.
Yeah.
Like, the question then becomes,
why are, are you doing this
illegally when we have a path
for you to do it legally?
And it depends on the
circumstances.
If the current set of legal
visas are available and the
person doesn't have a criminal
record and they have been
paying taxes using some kind of
tax ID, then maybe we will
offer them a temporary visa.
But if they're just straight up
here illegally, they're not
working, you know, they're not
in an asylum situation and it
was so bad that they couldn't
wait for the asylum process.
Then, or they have a really bad
criminal record and we found
that they're related to drug
cartels and stuff.
I'm sorry, but no, we're
sending you back.
And we're also making sure that
we fingerprint you and have
photos of you so that the next
time you try to come over, we'll
recognize you in the system
more quickly.
And that's the way it is.
Because I think that people
should have an easier path to
get in.
But if you have an easier path
to get in, either for asylum or
legit, asylum, temporary work
visa, or legit just becoming a
citizen.
If you have easier ways to get
in, then you have less reason
to do it illegally.
Yeah.
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