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Meh. That's all you have to say

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for today? Meh. Meh. Meh. Yeah,

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it's been a hot minute since we've

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done any of this. I mean, it's

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been a hot minute since we've

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done walking. It's been a hot

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minute since...

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Yeah, well we've had some other

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hobbies that we've been

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engaging in. Meh. Is that all

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you have to say? No, there's

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one other thing to say. Oh no.

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Cheese quesadilla. Damn it. I

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walked right into that, didn't

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I?

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*laughing* You know, after all

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I've done for you. Hey, we got

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our first piece of feedback.

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From who? Well, you remember...

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*laughing* Now this wasn't on

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the recording. Actually it was

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on the recording, I think. But

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I told you that I was gonna

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send our... Oh yeah.

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*laughing* podcast to InnerSloth

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with our ultimate real life

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version of Among Us idea. Yeah.

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And they responded. Yeah.

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*laughing* It's the best

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response you could ever receive,

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which is... We forwarded it to

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the relevant person. The trash.

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*laughing*

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*laughing* Such trash. Such

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trash. Yeah. So that was... a

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thing. But technically it's our

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first piece of feedback, so

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congratulations. We got our

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first piece of feedback. Yeah,

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but it's not really good or bad.

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*laughing*

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well yeah but not all feedback

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is necessarily good or bad it

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could be neutral feedback like

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if somebody sends us an email

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and says i listened to your

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show well that's neither good

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nor bad

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technically they didn't say

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they liked it they didn't say

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they hated it they didn't say

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they're

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giving us a hypothetical

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thousand dollars they just said

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i listen which by the way

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we we definitely would

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appreciate even emails to say

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that you're listening 

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feedback@nontopical.com

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is the place that you could

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just send us emails to say i'm

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listening because we're lonely

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and

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it's good to know that people

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are out there always listening

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to you always listening like

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the

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government and google and all

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the other websites ios yeah

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they're all listening like you

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might not know that but like

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literally anything that you

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interact with

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that has a microphone is

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listening all the time and you

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might say well wait a minute

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they say that it

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only listens when it needs to

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well how is it gonna know that

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you said its name unless it's

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listening to

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exactly like duh it's always

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listening okay period the end

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always listening

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kind of creepy but oh well that's

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life now nobody cares

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and we recently specifically

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yesterday celebrated

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America Day America Day it

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meant so much to so many people

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like who I don't know I really

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don't know that there's that

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much national pride anymore

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except for like a different

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definition of pride yeah which

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you know fine if you're into

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that I'm not I'm not being

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critical

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but but I'm just saying like I

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don't know many people that go

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around singing the I'm proud to

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be an American song anymore

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that's a thing oh yeah it's a

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famous country song or a

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country-ish rock a country rockabilly

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it's a famous song though what

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about the star spain band does

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anyone sing that yeah I mean

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people like

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stand up for it at like sports

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games and everything but like

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you know like I cry hearing

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that song I'll

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admit it I cry man tears

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hearing that song but

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unfortunately it's less about

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the the pride that

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that's supposed to instill in

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you about the country and and

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it's more about it's more about

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a sense of loss that that's

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what our country used to

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represent like our country used

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to represent

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like freedom and being able to

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like start fresh and to you

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know have the land of

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opportunity and

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all that stuff and maybe for

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some people it still is like

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are immigrants

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who move here and like they

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they find opportunities and

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people who start

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with nothing in life and work

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their way up to having like a

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great life and having and you

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doing some great things but at

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the same time i think those

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those stories are fewer and far

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at this point you know yeah

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yeah i don't know like i mean

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if you think about it for a

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moment

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like everybody likes fireworks

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like that's that's what people

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think of for the fourth of july

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in the

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united states fireworks

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fireworks aren't american they're

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chinese yeah i mean don't get

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me wrong i

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mean like most things that we

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take from other countries we of

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course perfect it supposedly

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supposedly

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like some of the best fireworks

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in the world are made in the

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united states we have the best

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fireworks

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uh okay so some may say they're

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the best fireworks yeah no but

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that i mean it's true like once

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borrowed something from another

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culture we tend to then put our

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think about

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burgers burgers like hamburgers

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hamburg hamburgs hamburgs come

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from germany yeah i mean that's

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literally in the title of the

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thing joy many but but tell me

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did did germany come up with

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gold foil line truffle oil like

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ultra juicy half pound sirloin

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burgers with like ultimate

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bacon and whatnot no no germany

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didn't come up with 150 burger

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or two thousand dollar burger

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or whatever the ridiculous this

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is that's us we unfortunately

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we came

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up with it anyway yeah so we

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could make more money yeah

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capitalism and by the way i'm

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not downplaying

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capitalism it's still the best

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economic system there is it's

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just uh capitalism has its

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issues someone

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should make a new economic

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system that works well what

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would that look like don't ask

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me i just said

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something yeah but i'm saying

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like what would a better

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economic system even look like

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less poverty

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more equal pay and also not

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relying on only money to live

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i mean that's not that's not

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quite communism um that's more

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of a socialist type of system

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but but the issue

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but but but the issue always

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becomes then how how do you

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even everything out and how and

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what defines what

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should be supported for

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everyone versus what shouldn't

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be supported for everyone what

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like okay so let's say the

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government provides a steady

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staple of three meals a day for

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every single human

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person in their country

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regardless of legal citizens or

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not the government says we're

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everyone

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one one where does the money

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come from for that two well

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what happens if i don't like

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the meals that are being

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provided by the government do i

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still have the right to

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purchase my own meals

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you know like what if i'm

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getting sick of like

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the government ration pork and

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beans for the fifth time this

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week you see the way you do

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this is that

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you have meal coins and every

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person gets a certain amount of

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meal coins per day and then you

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can use

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those meal coins to to to get

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food how do you determine the

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number of meal coins that

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people get

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i mean it's the same amount for

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everyone but that doesn't work

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why not well because

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what if the meal that i got

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with my meal coin wasn't enough

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what if i'm still hungry then

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you're a glutton

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you do realize people naturally

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have different sizes you didn't

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let me finish okay so you get

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meal coins

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and you can use them to to get

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one meal at a restaurant of

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your choice but then you also

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can get money and then you can

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choose

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either use your money for

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something else or use it to get

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more food yeah but the problem

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is then you have

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people scalping meal coins what

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do you mean like if you can

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just trade in your meal coin to

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get money no

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you can't trade any meal

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funding it month but you just

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said you could no i said that

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you also get money

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like for doing a job but you

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can't trade in meal you can use

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money to buy more food but you

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you get three meal

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coins per day probably so that's

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it can you like take all of

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your meal coins for a week say

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and go to the

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grocery store and then also

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like what about like you making

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your own meals does one meal

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coin equal

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like just a meal or does one

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meal coin equal like you being

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able to purchase the

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ingredients for a meal

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and if you want to make your

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own meal you got to pay money

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okay so there's one problem i

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see in it there's

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one critical flaw i see in your

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plan here so we're relying on

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the restaurants which is great

307
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because

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we're giving the restaurants

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money but the majority of

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people like like how many

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people are just going to

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take their meal coins and eat

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at mcdonald's well you could

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probably like order packages of

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like make your own

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meal or something or something

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or like packages of certain

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ingredients and where does the

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money for

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the these meal programs come

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from and people have jobs uh we

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need more manufacturing in the

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usa or like

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whatever country this is we

325
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need more manufacturing so that

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we can make more money

327
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okay good point like need to be

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able to actually have

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industries operating within the

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country that

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can make money yep so like how

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do you balance that out with

333
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other services though so you

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have meal coins

335
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what about like health coins

336
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how does that work because you're

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talking about like trillions

338
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and trillions

339
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of dollars here so i'm just

340
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trying to understand the

341
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economics of this are you

342
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saying that like then

343
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you're going to take the 25 to

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30 percent of taxes that people

345
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are already paying on their

346
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income when

347
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you combine it with state and

348
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federal or and you're going to

349
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like tax it at 50 instead or

350
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are you saying

351
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that you like are going to

352
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obtain the money through other

353
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means somehow for for what

354
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thing for for the meal coins

355
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and for health where does the

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money come from uh corporations

357
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will actually have to pay taxes

358
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for one

359
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all businesses have higher tax

360
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value depending on on their

361
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their like their uh not profit

362
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uh

363
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no that's actually the the way

364
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to do it yeah the way to do it

365
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is by profit because

366
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if you do it by like if you say

367
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oh well we're going to do it

368
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based upon your your income

369
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your reported income

370
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well they can schedule e like

371
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have tax harbors and junk like

372
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that so profit but the but yeah

373
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the net

374
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amount that you make has to be

375
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reported to your shareholders

376
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and you have to legally report

377
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that

378
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accurately otherwise like you

379
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get in trouble with the federal

380
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trade commission and they shut

381
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you down and then the

382
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government

383
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steals the money anyway when

384
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and then and then obviously you

385
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still have the normal people

386
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pay taxes too but

387
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corporations and businesses

388
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they they still have to pay

389
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more so no more loopholes no

390
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more loopholes but

391
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then how does that prevent the

392
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corporations from charging

393
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people more to make up for the

394
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fact that they're not

395
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they're not going to have to

396
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pay taxes there has to be there

397
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has to be like a a a base value

398
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like there has to be a like a a

399
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limit to how much you can

400
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charge for specific quality

401
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products

402
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but then that's the government

403
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imposing quality controls upon

404
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yeah like quality definitions

405
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upon things i i i was just

406
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saying i just started no no i'm

407
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trying to think this through as

408
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a legitimate exercise like i'm

409
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not saying your ideas without

410
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merit i think honestly

411
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humankind like there's no such

412
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thing as an ideal way to run a

413
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country or place and the

414
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problem is

415
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things fall apart at the

416
00:14:09,260 --> 00:14:10,640
economic level whenever you

417
00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,950
talk about something so if i

418
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say i think that every

419
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human person regardless of what

420
00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,700
country they're in deserves

421
00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:24,330
access to food clothing shelter

422
00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:27,560
water health care yeah okay

423
00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,110
the issue is not necessarily

424
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that that's a bad idea the

425
00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:36,870
issue is the economics of the

426
00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:37,400
idea

427
00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,370
and the issue is also that

428
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people will take advantage of

429
00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:44,150
that idea to make money or to

430
00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:47,240
hustle the system also for

431
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,850
for like the police system and

432
00:14:49,850 --> 00:14:52,730
like some of the other stuff it's

433
00:14:52,730 --> 00:14:54,280
volunteer system

434
00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,490
uh but here's the thing i you

435
00:14:58,490 --> 00:15:01,390
you don't get a gun right away

436
00:15:01,390 --> 00:15:04,520
if you're a police officer you

437
00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,000
have to

438
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,560
like work for a certain amount

439
00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,070
of time before you get like

440
00:15:08,070 --> 00:15:09,120
handcuffs but what if the

441
00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,200
volunteers are all

442
00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,900
like power hungry assholes yeah

443
00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:15,250
there would be limits in place

444
00:15:15,250 --> 00:15:17,600
you see there you have to do

445
00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,920
certain thing for

446
00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,620
certain amount of time before

447
00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:22,190
you can get to go up and get a

448
00:15:22,190 --> 00:15:23,890
certain thing like handcuffs or

449
00:15:23,890 --> 00:15:24,680
something

450
00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,320
so like so the first job for

451
00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,610
every officer is parking meters

452
00:15:30,610 --> 00:15:33,480
and and like an internship or

453
00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,680
something

454
00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,660
yeah you get like a test you

455
00:15:36,660 --> 00:15:38,910
get like a little test and then

456
00:15:38,910 --> 00:15:40,670
you go off the level so you're

457
00:15:40,670 --> 00:15:41,320
saying this is a

458
00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,690
volunteer thing then how do

459
00:15:43,690 --> 00:15:46,150
they afford to live uh hmm are

460
00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:48,620
we still in the hypothetical

461
00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:49,960
country where

462
00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,640
everything's already paid for i'm

463
00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,900
thinking i i i because i don't

464
00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:56,690
want it to be a paid thing

465
00:15:56,690 --> 00:15:57,800
because then it

466
00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,670
can become too corrupted well

467
00:16:00,670 --> 00:16:03,310
right but i'm saying so then

468
00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:06,310
the argument would then be like

469
00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:08,600
that maybe like you have

470
00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,020
shifts so that they can still

471
00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:13,320
work at a job with something

472
00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,050
welcome to our volunteer police

473
00:16:16,050 --> 00:16:17,160
department

474
00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,430
i mean volunteer fire

475
00:16:18,430 --> 00:16:20,190
departments exist so i guess a

476
00:16:20,190 --> 00:16:21,970
volunteer police department

477
00:16:21,970 --> 00:16:22,760
could exist

478
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,990
yeah and obviously the

479
00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:25,640
motivation is that if you work

480
00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,090
high up not only do you get to

481
00:16:27,090 --> 00:16:28,280
defend your country

482
00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,380
but you also get a gun yeah you

483
00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:32,900
get you get to keep like handcuffs

484
00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:34,920
and like you just have like

485
00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:35,960
somebody on your block

486
00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,850
that's like the local volunteer

487
00:16:37,850 --> 00:16:39,960
police representative and they're

488
00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,080
the ones that like

489
00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:42,570
kind of like how there's

490
00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:44,740
neighborhood watch associations

491
00:16:44,740 --> 00:16:46,310
yeah and also like they'd

492
00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:47,880
probably make money from

493
00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,990
like donations and stuff you

494
00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:52,100
know the police do have to buy

495
00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:54,130
equipment and stuff so they

496
00:16:54,130 --> 00:16:55,160
have to have

497
00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,740
some money that's coming in

498
00:16:56,740 --> 00:16:58,040
yeah yeah so like you can

499
00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,510
donate to them who's gonna

500
00:16:59,510 --> 00:17:01,000
donate to the police like

501
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,350
especially in california like

502
00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:05,530
well i'm serious like there are

503
00:17:05,530 --> 00:17:07,800
some states where it's like i

504
00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,920
mean i never

505
00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,870
said that this is for the u.s

506
00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:12,200
this is true this is a

507
00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,860
hypothetical i i i i can't

508
00:17:13,860 --> 00:17:15,560
believe this on the spot

509
00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,010
i don't know much about

510
00:17:17,010 --> 00:17:18,860
politics this is true this is

511
00:17:18,860 --> 00:17:20,790
all hypothetical yeah this is

512
00:17:20,790 --> 00:17:22,280
what the this is the key

513
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,050
of non-topical nothing that we're

514
00:17:24,050 --> 00:17:25,550
saying will work in reality i

515
00:17:25,550 --> 00:17:26,760
mean it might it might

516
00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:31,640
i don't know i think if you

517
00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,210
started a brand new country let's

518
00:17:35,210 --> 00:17:36,840
say the slate's clean

519
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,000
and the economics of that

520
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,870
country are already pre-decided

521
00:17:41,870 --> 00:17:42,840
around hey

522
00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:48,000
we're gonna build our economics

523
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000
in such a way that the state

524
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,760
slash country will take care of

525
00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,010
health care food water shelter

526
00:17:58,010 --> 00:18:00,620
clothing basic needs and

527
00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:02,870
somehow also like the

528
00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:04,920
government setup would have

529
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,120
to be different different so

530
00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:09,400
that it's not as correct yeah i

531
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,500
mean you'd have to you would

532
00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:12,920
have to have like a

533
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,420
legitimate way of doing things

534
00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:19,500
where again maybe maybe the

535
00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:22,330
motivation to to join the

536
00:18:22,330 --> 00:18:24,280
police force or like the

537
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,510
volunteer departments is that

538
00:18:26,510 --> 00:18:28,310
whoever has the best score in

539
00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:30,240
each of those like emergency

540
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,120
facilities gets to run for

541
00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:32,600
president

542
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,610
gets to what gets to run for

543
00:18:34,610 --> 00:18:37,220
president i mean there's your

544
00:18:37,220 --> 00:18:40,310
motivation you gotta gotta do a

545
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:41,560
good job learn

546
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,570
some humility and then if it

547
00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:45,670
turns out you suck the people

548
00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:47,760
can vote you out i mean that's

549
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,920
interesting

550
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,170
i don't know that's that's just

551
00:18:51,170 --> 00:18:52,990
an idea yeah i don't know i

552
00:18:52,990 --> 00:18:55,390
just came over there i don't

553
00:18:55,390 --> 00:18:56,760
know i think

554
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,510
i think the only way this works

555
00:18:59,510 --> 00:19:00,970
though is if you have

556
00:19:00,970 --> 00:19:03,650
manufacturing well that and you

557
00:19:03,650 --> 00:19:05,720
have to have a

558
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,420
country that is literally

559
00:19:07,420 --> 00:19:09,580
founded around these principles

560
00:19:09,580 --> 00:19:11,280
yeah not necessarily that

561
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,440
everybody gets

562
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,520
equal pay but that there's a

563
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,570
bare minimum that everybody

564
00:19:16,570 --> 00:19:18,570
gets yeah like again you get

565
00:19:18,570 --> 00:19:20,040
you get the food you

566
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,650
get the meal coins and you get

567
00:19:21,650 --> 00:19:23,330
certain amount of clothes and

568
00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:24,880
stuff and you get something

569
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,720
like housing

570
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,490
services and it wouldn't suck

571
00:19:27,490 --> 00:19:29,030
like like back in like when

572
00:19:29,030 --> 00:19:30,800
they first started making the

573
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,720
city so everyone's

574
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,440
like in these really small cramped

575
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,590
compartments well yeah but

576
00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:38,840
again you you have to figure

577
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,600
government's

578
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,750
always looking to pay as least

579
00:19:42,750 --> 00:19:44,990
money as possible well you mind

580
00:19:44,990 --> 00:19:46,860
on what you do what you make

581
00:19:46,860 --> 00:19:48,440
giant 3d printers

582
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,600
and then you 3d print walls for

583
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,540
houses those do exist exactly

584
00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:57,470
you 3d print your houses and

585
00:19:57,470 --> 00:19:58,520
then like

586
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,160
you like they're decent like

587
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,020
like they they they have enough

588
00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:06,890
to provide comfortably but you

589
00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:07,640
know if

590
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,600
you want to get a better

591
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,910
looking house like they're not

592
00:20:09,910 --> 00:20:11,330
going to be pretty houses they're

593
00:20:11,330 --> 00:20:11,880
going to be

594
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,670
functional but if you want to

595
00:20:13,670 --> 00:20:15,310
get like a pretty house you

596
00:20:15,310 --> 00:20:17,170
gotta pay for that you know you

597
00:20:17,170 --> 00:20:18,280
gotta spend your

598
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,800
money yeah same thing like

599
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,420
maybe for cars i don't know i

600
00:20:23,420 --> 00:20:26,400
don't know if everyone will get

601
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,560
a car or not

602
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,160
yeah i mean maybe everyone will

603
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,490
get a bicycle well i mean but

604
00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:34,950
that that becomes a little bit

605
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:35,640
of a problem

606
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,910
yeah like cars do represent a

607
00:20:37,910 --> 00:20:40,270
certain level of freedom yeah

608
00:20:40,270 --> 00:20:42,520
so unless this is like a super

609
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,720
small country

610
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,780
like where you could bike from

611
00:20:46,780 --> 00:20:48,560
one side of the country to the

612
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,680
other in like a day yeah in

613
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,280
which

614
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,650
case you're not going to have

615
00:20:53,650 --> 00:20:55,220
the manufacturing necessary to

616
00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:56,200
facilitate into the

617
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,000
corporations

618
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,610
necessary if you give everyone

619
00:20:58,610 --> 00:21:00,140
a car though that's going to be

620
00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:00,920
a lot of money

621
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,070
like i like 3d printing a house

622
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:07,080
okay but you can't really like

623
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,660
entirely 3d print a car i don't

624
00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:10,840
think no

625
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,570
no no i don't think that's how

626
00:21:12,570 --> 00:21:14,190
it works you can 3d print

627
00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:16,010
bicycles but i don't think you

628
00:21:16,010 --> 00:21:17,000
can 3d print

629
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,550
an entire car i know but all

630
00:21:18,550 --> 00:21:19,870
that still costs money

631
00:21:19,870 --> 00:21:21,900
regardless like yeah and if you're

632
00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:23,080
3d printing it i feel

633
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,890
like 3d printing is like at

634
00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:26,640
least a little cheaper than

635
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,420
like maybe because you're

636
00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:29,800
buying like a bunch of

637
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,840
one materials so like people

638
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,280
might like cut you deals

639
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,210
because you're buying so much

640
00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:36,520
welcome to the 3d

641
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,790
printed world look it's only

642
00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:41,140
for like the the basic stuff it

643
00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:44,200
needs to be functional and and

644
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,920
comfortable

645
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,340
enough and then if you want

646
00:21:46,340 --> 00:21:48,080
something that looks pretty you

647
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,800
pay for it what if i want netflix

648
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,300
hmm look you you you have radio

649
00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:55,000
and stuff okay

650
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:57,640
we the government wants you to

651
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,410
improve like we want you to

652
00:21:59,410 --> 00:22:01,850
have leisure activities but we

653
00:22:01,850 --> 00:22:03,160
also want those

654
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,100
leisure activities to be enriching

655
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:08,470
and encouraging you to learn

656
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:10,790
more so instead of giving you

657
00:22:10,790 --> 00:22:11,320
tv or

658
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,190
internet-based uh tv services

659
00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:17,390
we've given you a full stack of

660
00:22:17,390 --> 00:22:20,370
ham radio learning materials

661
00:22:20,370 --> 00:22:21,320
okay and a

662
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,510
starter radio you know here's

663
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:25,440
the most important thing i

664
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,820
think no political parties ever

665
00:22:27,820 --> 00:22:29,080
i i i concur with

666
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,910
that uh some people would argue

667
00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:32,840
that political parties are free

668
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,680
speech but they're not they are

669
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,010
they are limiting they are not

670
00:22:37,010 --> 00:22:39,430
just limited corporations all

671
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:41,720
in half themselves yeah they

672
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,730
they are not-for-profit

673
00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:46,030
businesses that hold a lot of

674
00:22:46,030 --> 00:22:48,520
power and make profit and and

675
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,880
make a lot of money

676
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,000
yeah and they like i i still

677
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,230
kind of like the idea of like

678
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:56,830
few people from each emergency

679
00:22:56,830 --> 00:22:58,280
facility get to run for

680
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,020
president if they've done a

681
00:23:00,020 --> 00:23:02,000
really good job and like people

682
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,790
like them like i kind of i kind

683
00:23:03,790 --> 00:23:04,440
of agree

684
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,980
with you in some ways on that

685
00:23:05,980 --> 00:23:07,390
because they're like the

686
00:23:07,390 --> 00:23:08,840
smarterly ones they have

687
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,360
experience if they're at the

688
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,570
well i think and people in

689
00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:14,980
order to be able to be part of

690
00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:17,510
local office and definitely

691
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:19,080
national office

692
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,800
you have to have been in some

693
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,880
kind of service position where

694
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,960
you've served your community

695
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,640
um and where you've

696
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,030
distinguished yourself as

697
00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:32,740
somebody who truly has the best

698
00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:34,120
interests of the

699
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,900
community at heart now don't

700
00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:37,690
get me wrong that's hard to do

701
00:23:37,690 --> 00:23:39,530
i know yeah it's really hard

702
00:23:39,530 --> 00:23:41,720
because i i like

703
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,260
this idea this is actually

704
00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:45,000
turning out to be a decent idea

705
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,770
yeah if only we could actually

706
00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:47,640
like put it into

707
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,920
practice don't worry the fbi

708
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,340
will steal us away someday fbi

709
00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:57,720
cia one of them you know like

710
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,160
hey ladies and

711
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,880
gentlemen our next our next

712
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,770
podcast episode is going to be

713
00:24:02,770 --> 00:24:04,230
us walking around the

714
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:06,120
facilities at guantanamo bay

715
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,190
hey hey what was your water

716
00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:12,820
torture session like the other

717
00:24:12,820 --> 00:24:15,120
day oh it wasn't that bad john's

718
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:15,480
a little

719
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,480
bit more lenient but janice

720
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,560
holy cow i don't know what her

721
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,740
issue is with me she just she

722
00:24:22,740 --> 00:24:25,000
just like gallons

723
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,730
like she's just pouring gallons

724
00:24:26,730 --> 00:24:28,280
of water like john just does a

725
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,830
nice little drip this lady's

726
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:31,160
just pouring gallons

727
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,240
like all right back to what you

728
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,640
were saying what was i saying

729
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,090
uh you were talking about how

730
00:24:37,090 --> 00:24:37,560
how you

731
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,960
kind of agree with yeah i i

732
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,340
think that you know to it

733
00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:45,940
shouldn't just be like a lawyer

734
00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:47,880
who has enough

735
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,820
money and can raise enough

736
00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:52,110
money for advertising and stuff

737
00:24:52,110 --> 00:24:54,420
but i really don't like that it's

738
00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:55,480
kind of annoying

739
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:57,230
like also i really don't like

740
00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:58,980
lawyers much in the first place

741
00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:00,670
because originally you were

742
00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:01,800
supposed to kind of

743
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,720
serve your own trial no no the

744
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,730
no that's not that's not true

745
00:25:05,730 --> 00:25:07,720
there have been lawyers around

746
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,040
for

747
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,080
yeah hundreds of hundreds of

748
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,210
years in the beginning like it

749
00:25:12,210 --> 00:25:13,980
was if if some if if you did

750
00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:14,840
something

751
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,140
someone that they didn't like

752
00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:17,260
and they sued you it would be

753
00:25:17,260 --> 00:25:18,040
you versus them

754
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,020
no in the beginning there was

755
00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:21,920
no lawsuit in the beginning

756
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,900
there was a chance that if you

757
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:25,400
did something wrong to

758
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,260
someone else they would come

759
00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:29,110
and kill you that's not what i

760
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:31,100
learned in history it depends

761
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:31,800
on how far

762
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,100
back in history you go i'm

763
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:34,740
saying like you'll remember if

764
00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:36,240
you go back to biblical times

765
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,240
there was the the

766
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,920
the discussion of an eye for an

767
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,540
eye meaning if you cause harm

768
00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:42,150
to me i get to cause equal harm

769
00:25:42,150 --> 00:25:42,920
to you i'm saying

770
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,020
like uh united states the confederate

771
00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:48,240
states it was like you you go

772
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,670
to a court and it's that's you

773
00:25:50,670 --> 00:25:51,240
versus

774
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,820
them that that's no oh well

775
00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:54,480
that's what i was well let me

776
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,080
put it this way the reason i

777
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,760
can say no

778
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,680
is it's enshrined in the very

779
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,830
constitution that you have yeah

780
00:26:00,830 --> 00:26:02,840
the right to representation

781
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,480
confederate

782
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,260
states well the confederate

783
00:26:05,260 --> 00:26:07,050
states were a whole disaster

784
00:26:07,050 --> 00:26:08,830
unto themselves okay you're

785
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:09,560
citing the

786
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,360
confederate states which are no

787
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:12,880
longer a thing right back to

788
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,690
the theoretical state with its

789
00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:14,920
own

790
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,710
economic system honestly i i

791
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:18,650
disagree on the lawyer part and

792
00:26:18,650 --> 00:26:20,580
here's the reason why well yeah

793
00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:21,160
like but

794
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,860
i i i'm i'm saying for like

795
00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:24,910
president well for president

796
00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:28,120
yeah i i think the reason why

797
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:28,360
people

798
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,360
make it into the presidency

799
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,420
aside but current current

800
00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:34,520
president aside who have legal

801
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,560
expertise is

802
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,840
they understand legalese yeah

803
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,020
they understand the nature of

804
00:26:40,020 --> 00:26:42,060
law and how to write laws and

805
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:42,680
how to you know

806
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,550
what it'd be it'd be cool in

807
00:26:44,550 --> 00:26:46,870
this hypothetical country like

808
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:48,940
law documents would have two

809
00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:50,680
versions the law speak

810
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,460
version and the normal people

811
00:26:52,460 --> 00:26:53,950
version yeah i think that

812
00:26:53,950 --> 00:26:55,590
having the terms of service

813
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:56,840
actually laid out in

814
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,420
a way that people could

815
00:26:58,420 --> 00:27:00,340
understand yeah oh that's

816
00:27:00,340 --> 00:27:02,410
something speaking of that this

817
00:27:02,410 --> 00:27:04,040
country would totally

818
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,820
turn software companies on

819
00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:10,220
their on their heads because we'd

820
00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:11,240
like yeah

821
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,650
end user license agreements do

822
00:27:15,650 --> 00:27:17,990
not represent a legally binding

823
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:20,120
contract in our society yeah

824
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,100
they if you want to protect

825
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,080
yourself and if you want to

826
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,700
make sure that you're

827
00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:27,480
protecting your users

828
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,570
then you better be doing it

829
00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:32,040
according to the written law as

830
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,420
opposed to writing a big legal

831
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:35,080
jargon

832
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,880
document that basically that

833
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,500
nobody reads oh don't get me

834
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:40,160
wrong you still have to have

835
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,480
privacy policies you

836
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,520
still have to have data

837
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,850
security policies yeah like

838
00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:45,100
there'd be some things that

839
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:46,200
they can control but

840
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,550
but the end user license

841
00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:49,320
agreement will not represent a

842
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,100
binding agreement between you

843
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:52,120
and the user at a

844
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,720
legal level yeah anyway this

845
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,540
could theoretically work it

846
00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:58,540
could theoretically

847
00:27:58,540 --> 00:28:00,520
theoretically i mean this all

848
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,130
started with meal coins you

849
00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:04,060
gotta remember meal coins which

850
00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:05,630
are not a bad idea hey can you

851
00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:07,420
can you mine meal coins like is

852
00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:11,220
this like a new crypto no i i i

853
00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:12,530
again that would lead to too

854
00:28:12,530 --> 00:28:14,040
much corruption crypto crypto

855
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480
it has to be it has to be three

856
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,250
per day and then like maybe you

857
00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:21,740
can get one at night like in

858
00:28:21,740 --> 00:28:24,140
the office we'll do the the the

859
00:28:24,140 --> 00:28:26,160
the the the the what do you

860
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,230
call it the amusement park meal

861
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:30,320
plan you get three meals and a

862
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,260
snack yeah basically yeah i i

863
00:28:33,260 --> 00:28:35,630
think that that's a good basis

864
00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:37,400
now in terms of health

865
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,470
that's this i don't know if we

866
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:42,170
can say free healthcare i don't

867
00:28:42,170 --> 00:28:43,800
know maybe i think i i would

868
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,100
like it to be volunteer service

869
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:46,350
but then you'd get all the dumb

870
00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:48,870
people i think the issue with

871
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:50,120
healthcare

872
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,000
is you would have to undercut

873
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,180
the entire insurance

874
00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:57,560
pharmaceutical cabal

875
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,260
yeah and that's really hard

876
00:29:00,260 --> 00:29:02,830
also uh similarly and no no

877
00:29:02,830 --> 00:29:05,770
advertising for like medical

878
00:29:05,770 --> 00:29:08,280
stuff for what

879
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,940
medical stuff yeah well i think

880
00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:13,300
for like over-the-counter

881
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,760
medicines it's fine like you

882
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,560
know like the things

883
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,220
where it's like here's this one

884
00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:20,720
thing that this thing might be

885
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,070
able to do here's a bunch of

886
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:22,840
side effects

887
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,060
oh yeah that that might kill

888
00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:27,360
you yeah they're just just just

889
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800
a few they you know there might

890
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,440
be some

891
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,870
weird sound effects it's it's

892
00:29:31,870 --> 00:29:33,200
only side effects not sound

893
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,700
effects it's only one thousand

894
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:35,640
don't worry it's not

895
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,330
that many oh a thousand i

896
00:29:37,330 --> 00:29:39,440
thought you meant like the the

897
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,650
cost no potential side effects

898
00:29:41,650 --> 00:29:42,600
the cost of the

899
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,310
medicine is a thousand no

900
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:46,620
because i'm saying saying the

901
00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:48,610
amount of potential the amount

902
00:29:48,610 --> 00:29:50,200
of potential side effects

903
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,290
so uh so uh so healthcare

904
00:29:54,290 --> 00:29:57,260
system how we do that well i i

905
00:29:57,260 --> 00:29:59,840
would envision that basic

906
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,160
healthcare

907
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:02,930
i think that the law would have

908
00:30:02,930 --> 00:30:04,790
to be that it's it's completely

909
00:30:04,790 --> 00:30:07,720
not for profit meaning if you're

910
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,880
running a hospital if you're

911
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,130
running a facility it has to be

912
00:30:12,130 --> 00:30:14,470
on a not-for-profit basis we

913
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:15,960
have basic

914
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,560
government healthcare that

915
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,080
covers most of the ordinary

916
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,670
stuff do they get government

917
00:30:20,670 --> 00:30:21,720
funding yeah yeah

918
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,650
you cover basic healthcare that

919
00:30:23,650 --> 00:30:25,280
covers most of your typical

920
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,840
things including cancer

921
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,210
arthritis stuff like that and

922
00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:31,300
then you know you also have

923
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:33,000
supplemental plans

924
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,030
that you can purchase on top of

925
00:30:35,030 --> 00:30:35,400
that

926
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:38,040
you know also we we should

927
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,700
probably have more humane

928
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:42,760
systems of farming

929
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,930
maybe if we can regenerative

930
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:47,980
farming yeah that's not that's

931
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:49,800
not as hard as people think

932
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,240
yeah people

933
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,160
like to make it all it's so

934
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,570
difficult it's so difficult but

935
00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:57,660
it actually isn't it's just

936
00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:58,280
that they

937
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,950
don't want to do rotational

938
00:30:59,950 --> 00:31:01,690
farming and they want to keep

939
00:31:01,690 --> 00:31:03,890
using harsh chemicals and all

940
00:31:03,890 --> 00:31:06,600
that stuff fresh

941
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,700
produce is good for you fresh

942
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,620
produce is good for you and so

943
00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:12,710
is meat both both those things

944
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:13,720
are good for you

945
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,830
uh it depends on type of meat

946
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:18,150
in general processed meat not

947
00:31:18,150 --> 00:31:20,270
as well well i'm saying meat

948
00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:21,560
like normal meat

949
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,450
normal meat yeah i'm normal

950
00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:27,800
meat not overly processed okay

951
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,450
so some more natural meat so

952
00:31:30,450 --> 00:31:32,360
not mr beast burger

953
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,760
which by the way for the record

954
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,310
is absolutely disgusting oh you're

955
00:31:37,310 --> 00:31:39,470
gonna offend all the mr beast

956
00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:41,160
viewers now i don't care

957
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,840
look all right if i need to say

958
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,900
something nice as well lunch

959
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:48,650
lee and feastables are pretty

960
00:31:48,650 --> 00:31:49,400
darn good

961
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,890
especially feastables yeah

962
00:31:50,890 --> 00:31:52,700
feastables good chocolate you

963
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:55,680
know not what normal americans

964
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,440
would like but good chocolate

965
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,460
so healthcare we continue that

966
00:32:01,460 --> 00:32:04,430
so healthcare um not for profit

967
00:32:04,430 --> 00:32:07,200
funded by government covers

968
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,720
basic horrible diseases

969
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,200
yeah like the only thing is

970
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,660
dealing with the bed problem

971
00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:15,340
and the care problem because

972
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:16,680
one of the biggest

973
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,760
issues that there are right now

974
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,080
in countries that have subsidized

975
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,080
healthcare is having to wait

976
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,480
like oh

977
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,270
we have to wait like a month to

978
00:32:28,270 --> 00:32:30,540
get a cat or two to three

979
00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:33,030
months to get a cat scan why

980
00:32:33,030 --> 00:32:33,960
because

981
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,150
there's only so many slots to

982
00:32:38,150 --> 00:32:40,670
be had you know so like it's

983
00:32:40,670 --> 00:32:43,540
like well we can only handle so

984
00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:44,760
many people

985
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,030
and the government only gives

986
00:32:47,030 --> 00:32:48,970
us so much money so then it

987
00:32:48,970 --> 00:32:51,360
becomes kind of pay for play in

988
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:51,720
that

989
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,970
it's well can you donate to the

990
00:32:54,970 --> 00:32:58,020
healthcare system in this

991
00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:00,470
hypothetical country economic

992
00:33:00,470 --> 00:33:01,640
system i mean

993
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,060
sure yeah because most of the

994
00:33:04,060 --> 00:33:05,730
emergency things i feel would

995
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:07,490
have like donations like they

996
00:33:07,490 --> 00:33:08,360
take donations

997
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:09,920
yeah but that still causes a

998
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,590
fundamental problem that if you

999
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:12,940
can afford to play for the

1000
00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:14,280
supplemental plan

1001
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,530
you might get boosted ahead uh

1002
00:33:16,530 --> 00:33:18,240
i i don't think you'd be

1003
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,880
allowed to skip plan

1004
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,030
so it doesn't matter if you're

1005
00:33:22,030 --> 00:33:24,020
paying extra or not what you

1006
00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:26,010
get is what you get if you pay

1007
00:33:26,010 --> 00:33:27,160
extra there's

1008
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,050
there's there's a chance that

1009
00:33:29,050 --> 00:33:30,810
they like might be able to get

1010
00:33:30,810 --> 00:33:32,530
another cat scan though and

1011
00:33:32,530 --> 00:33:33,320
then if if

1012
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,940
you paid a majority for that

1013
00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:37,400
you get to go first maybe so so

1014
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,010
if you have the half a million

1015
00:33:41,010 --> 00:33:42,440
dollars to

1016
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,360
buy a cat scan machine you're

1017
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,120
one person though and then

1018
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080
everyone else can use it it's

1019
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,080
not only yours

1020
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,000
right but i'm still making the

1021
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,900
point like the argument yeah

1022
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:55,650
but who who would pay half a

1023
00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:56,280
million

1024
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,970
dollars to oh yeah no i get

1025
00:33:57,970 --> 00:33:59,900
that so but what i'm saying is

1026
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:02,110
if you have supplemental and

1027
00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:03,320
also some of

1028
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,560
that money would go to like

1029
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,970
other stuff for right but i'm

1030
00:34:05,970 --> 00:34:06,920
saying if you have the

1031
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,280
supplemental healthcare

1032
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,080
it doesn't push you ahead in

1033
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,960
the line you start to wait the

1034
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,850
same i don't know a good way to

1035
00:34:13,850 --> 00:34:14,280
do it

1036
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,420
you still have to wait the same

1037
00:34:16,420 --> 00:34:17,660
amount of time no i think

1038
00:34:17,660 --> 00:34:19,320
supplemental healthcare only

1039
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,960
gives you

1040
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,290
services that are outside of

1041
00:34:22,290 --> 00:34:24,310
the normal services so for

1042
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:26,580
example if you want to be able

1043
00:34:26,580 --> 00:34:27,400
to like you

1044
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,040
have a supplemental healthcare

1045
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,420
plan that says oh if you want

1046
00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:32,430
to get plastic surgery aside

1047
00:34:32,430 --> 00:34:33,400
from like

1048
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,840
weight related stuff that is

1049
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,480
actually vetted meaning not

1050
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,600
just like somebody that's

1051
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,080
looking to lose 20 pounds

1052
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,130
with somebody that's like

1053
00:34:40,130 --> 00:34:41,530
significantly overweight that's

1054
00:34:41,530 --> 00:34:42,550
a different thing but i'm

1055
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:44,600
saying like you

1056
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,020
have services like plastic

1057
00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:49,120
surgery like there there are

1058
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,510
wellness services where it's

1059
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:52,840
like oh i want to

1060
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,170
do these like special anti-aging

1061
00:34:55,170 --> 00:34:57,160
treatments i want to have you

1062
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,080
know maybe you do something

1063
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,040
like i want to

1064
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,790
have a lower overall co-pay so

1065
00:35:01,790 --> 00:35:03,530
i'll pay more up front and that

1066
00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:05,480
goes directly to the government

1067
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,680
but like i have

1068
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,530
a lower co-pay than everyone

1069
00:35:08,530 --> 00:35:10,360
else like stuff like that but

1070
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,220
you're not gonna like you're

1071
00:35:12,220 --> 00:35:12,920
gonna pay

1072
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,650
for extra services or lower co-pay

1073
00:35:15,650 --> 00:35:17,810
but you're not paying to get

1074
00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:20,200
the long to skip the line if

1075
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,640
you make

1076
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,110
a substantial donation which is

1077
00:35:24,110 --> 00:35:26,390
tax deductible like let's say

1078
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:28,740
like on your tax return like on

1079
00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:29,800
our tax returns

1080
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,490
we get a lovely little check

1081
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:33,130
box that says do you want to

1082
00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:35,050
contribute to the re-elect the

1083
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:36,440
president campaign

1084
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,040
no i don't well like us on

1085
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,480
their tax forms it would be

1086
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,250
like do you want to donate to

1087
00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:46,200
the local order of

1088
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,860
police do you want to donate to

1089
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:49,190
the local order of fire

1090
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:50,520
department do you want to

1091
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,320
donate to the health care yeah

1092
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,670
and see see this this the the

1093
00:35:56,670 --> 00:35:59,010
only way that this system would

1094
00:35:59,010 --> 00:36:01,280
fall apart is if people aren't

1095
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:01,640
kind

1096
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:04,390
well that's not gonna last very

1097
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:06,770
long is it look i'm trying to

1098
00:36:06,770 --> 00:36:09,370
be optimistic here this is this

1099
00:36:09,370 --> 00:36:09,880
is this

1100
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,100
is difficult for me well this

1101
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,320
is true you're one of the most

1102
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680
pessimistic people i know so

1103
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,480
airing i agree

1104
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,920
though and actually the true

1105
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,240
the same holds true for the

1106
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,440
united states and other

1107
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,520
countries as well is

1108
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,390
that it's just that we have

1109
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:28,270
failed well no no you cut me

1110
00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:29,800
off before i finish my

1111
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,800
statement sorry if people

1112
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,540
were fundamentally looking to

1113
00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:37,280
serve the greater good of their

1114
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,070
community of their state and of

1115
00:36:40,070 --> 00:36:41,240
the national

1116
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,440
interests if people were not so

1117
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,400
busy clamoring over each other

1118
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,570
and specifically in government

1119
00:36:47,570 --> 00:36:48,120
i'm not

1120
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,090
saying individual people but if

1121
00:36:50,090 --> 00:36:51,590
people in government were and

1122
00:36:51,590 --> 00:36:53,400
businesses especially like big

1123
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,280
corporations

1124
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,910
were actually looking to serve

1125
00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:59,430
the public good like as a whole

1126
00:36:59,430 --> 00:37:01,850
rather than looking into how

1127
00:37:01,850 --> 00:37:02,920
can i line my

1128
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,820
pockets how can i um how can i

1129
00:37:04,820 --> 00:37:06,870
you know take the people that

1130
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:08,790
donated me the most money and

1131
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:09,640
pass a bill

1132
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,260
that will give them more money

1133
00:37:12,260 --> 00:37:14,490
um things would work much

1134
00:37:14,490 --> 00:37:17,330
better yeah like but they don't

1135
00:37:17,330 --> 00:37:18,040
yeah like

1136
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,880
the whole giant spending bill

1137
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,860
that they're passing or working

1138
00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:23,470
on passing very important

1139
00:37:23,470 --> 00:37:24,360
question yes

1140
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,500
standing army yes or no i think

1141
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,570
a standing army is important

1142
00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:33,680
but we can't pay as much if it's

1143
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,040
if

1144
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,590
there's no war well that would

1145
00:37:35,590 --> 00:37:37,270
be ridiculous well yeah wartime

1146
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:38,960
pay is different than peacetime

1147
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,480
pay that's

1148
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,440
obvious similarly it would

1149
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,530
probably also be like donations

1150
00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:45,530
and volunteer most of the time

1151
00:37:45,530 --> 00:37:47,400
you know yeah but i think

1152
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,900
the key the key hi the key is

1153
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:54,160
you have to have an army to

1154
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,240
protect your country and navy

1155
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:58,040
and

1156
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,610
ships or sorry not ships uh uh

1157
00:38:00,610 --> 00:38:03,180
the air force yeah you have to

1158
00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:05,800
have something yeah because

1159
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,360
like

1160
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,410
first of all i mean especially

1161
00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:10,680
if the country does end up

1162
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,140
working as well as we imagine

1163
00:38:12,140 --> 00:38:13,000
everybody's going

1164
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,520
to want to try to get in or

1165
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,490
take it over yeah or corrupt it

1166
00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:18,130
yeah and so you need a way to

1167
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:18,840
protect

1168
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,980
your people yep and you also

1169
00:38:20,980 --> 00:38:22,550
need a way to enforce

1170
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,780
immigration that is fair and

1171
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:25,240
just

1172
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,830
but also gives people a a good

1173
00:38:27,830 --> 00:38:30,190
path to get in also another

1174
00:38:30,190 --> 00:38:32,950
idea you you can volunteer uh

1175
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:34,440
like just being a

1176
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,420
normal person uh and start at

1177
00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:37,990
the lowest level of the

1178
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:40,140
military or if you've been like

1179
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:41,240
a policeman or a

1180
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:42,900
firefighter for like a good

1181
00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:44,590
long while and it moves up the

1182
00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:46,470
ranks you get placed higher up

1183
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:47,480
in the military

1184
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,260
yeah i think it depends on the

1185
00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:51,130
type of role that you have yeah

1186
00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:52,700
in the fire department or

1187
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:53,640
police department

1188
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,530
just because you are in a

1189
00:38:55,530 --> 00:38:58,000
hierarchical uh hierarchical

1190
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,440
service position of some kind

1191
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,320
does not necessarily

1192
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,810
equate to you being a good

1193
00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:04,280
fighting force yeah like and

1194
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,000
like for the firefighters they

1195
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,080
probably get more

1196
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,830
technical stuff yeah i think

1197
00:39:08,830 --> 00:39:10,640
firefighters would need to go

1198
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,350
through a much more rigorous

1199
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:13,000
training

1200
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,450
to transition over they might

1201
00:39:15,450 --> 00:39:17,040
get like put in like a lower

1202
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,920
class like still like decently

1203
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,960
high up because

1204
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,450
they have to i think police

1205
00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:23,020
officers like yeah because

1206
00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:24,720
police officers have to have a

1207
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:25,640
certain level

1208
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,320
of hand-to-hand combat training

1209
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,490
medical training um being a

1210
00:39:30,490 --> 00:39:33,000
strategic training all of that

1211
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,360
you know what

1212
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,620
their their military training

1213
00:39:35,620 --> 00:39:36,830
would probably be much less and

1214
00:39:36,830 --> 00:39:38,010
they'd probably be able to get

1215
00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:38,280
into

1216
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,230
things much more quickly yeah

1217
00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:43,230
but yeah i i like this

1218
00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:46,280
government idea it's good if if

1219
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,720
only there were

1220
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:49,850
people that were kind enough to

1221
00:39:49,850 --> 00:39:51,820
actually not corrupt it yeah

1222
00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:53,590
and i mean you could say the

1223
00:39:53,590 --> 00:39:54,760
same thing about

1224
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,510
like i said the united states

1225
00:39:56,510 --> 00:39:58,410
if you look at the constitution

1226
00:39:58,410 --> 00:40:00,430
and actually read it as written

1227
00:40:00,430 --> 00:40:00,760
i mean

1228
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,950
there's still some sketchy

1229
00:40:01,950 --> 00:40:03,120
stuff in it oh i'm not saying

1230
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,460
there isn't some sketchy stuff

1231
00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:06,600
in there but i'm saying like

1232
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,180
you know the constitution as it

1233
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:12,340
was meant to be was not

1234
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:15,540
horrible no the constitution

1235
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:16,600
has not meant the

1236
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,600
constitution became on the

1237
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,340
other hand well and it's

1238
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:22,440
especially with like people

1239
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,440
people say the constitution

1240
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,330
gives the right for this and it

1241
00:40:26,330 --> 00:40:27,880
gives the right for no you

1242
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,660
already have that no exactly

1243
00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:31,160
the the constitution

1244
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,770
the constitution says you

1245
00:40:32,770 --> 00:40:34,440
already have this right the

1246
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,370
state is not allowed to infringe

1247
00:40:36,370 --> 00:40:37,800
upon it yeah of

1248
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,080
course you know selectively

1249
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,720
interpreted

1250
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,020
by whichever political power

1251
00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:44,300
party happens to be in power at

1252
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:46,410
the moment also there there

1253
00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:47,480
should be more

1254
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,920
laws protecting the minors in

1255
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,170
this in this country yeah i i

1256
00:40:52,170 --> 00:40:54,600
feel like we don't have enough

1257
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,360
laws protecting the

1258
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,130
minors well i would like to

1259
00:40:58,130 --> 00:41:00,150
correct you in your statement

1260
00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:01,910
and we don't have good laws

1261
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:02,840
protecting

1262
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,260
no i i want to correct you

1263
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:06,130
further in your statement what

1264
00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:07,840
we don't have enough parents

1265
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,320
protecting minors yeah

1266
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,970
and that's the issue i think

1267
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:15,810
that i mean you pointed this

1268
00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:18,170
out the other day when we were

1269
00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:19,560
at a big box store

1270
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,490
yes there there was like kid

1271
00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:25,410
baby it was basically a baby

1272
00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:28,210
there was baby and baby was

1273
00:41:28,210 --> 00:41:29,960
just playing on

1274
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,520
mom's cell phone uh it might

1275
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,220
have been talking to dad but we

1276
00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:34,870
don't know might have been i i

1277
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:36,040
doubt it yeah

1278
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,440
it could have been talking to

1279
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,730
that because i saw it like it

1280
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:40,130
looked like a video chat of

1281
00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:40,280
some kind

1282
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,460
yeah but the problem is that it

1283
00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:42,730
also could have been a short it

1284
00:41:42,730 --> 00:41:43,710
could have been a tick tock

1285
00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:45,000
yeah so we

1286
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,160
don't really know but um look i

1287
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,200
don't want to limit freedoms

1288
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,230
and i don't want to criticize

1289
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:55,720
parents but

1290
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:57,970
but there do what to be some

1291
00:41:57,970 --> 00:42:00,350
protection but having a kid

1292
00:42:00,350 --> 00:42:03,150
under a certain age participate

1293
00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:04,600
in the internet

1294
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,680
aside from school and aside

1295
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,590
from supervised ways of

1296
00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:12,290
handling it probably not the

1297
00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:13,880
best idea now there

1298
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,210
are levels of that so what i

1299
00:42:15,210 --> 00:42:16,720
don't want to do is turn around

1300
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,000
and say like have parents

1301
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,840
yelling at me

1302
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,830
being like you know so you're

1303
00:42:20,830 --> 00:42:22,630
saying my kid can't watch

1304
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:24,660
youtube you're saying my kid

1305
00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:26,360
can't do this that's not fair

1306
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,450
no no that's not what i'm

1307
00:42:28,450 --> 00:42:31,660
saying what i'm saying is it is

1308
00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:33,400
up to you

1309
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,960
to do the necessary due

1310
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,290
diligence to make sure your kid

1311
00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:43,080
is not getting into stuff

1312
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,100
that they shouldn't and there

1313
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:50,620
is a reason why the

1314
00:42:50,620 --> 00:42:53,260
international standard for

1315
00:42:53,260 --> 00:42:54,760
being able to set up

1316
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,500
an account without parental

1317
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,050
consent is 13 13. and actually

1318
00:42:59,050 --> 00:43:00,920
in some countries it's going up

1319
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,960
to 16. smart um

1320
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,710
and that should be what it is

1321
00:43:05,710 --> 00:43:07,560
for our country and the thing

1322
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,330
is that's not enforced yeah

1323
00:43:09,330 --> 00:43:10,440
like there's no

1324
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,860
way to prove parental consent

1325
00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:15,280
was given it's presumed and we

1326
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,420
also can't like track them

1327
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:18,680
through their

1328
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,630
computers and stuff because

1329
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:22,560
that would be a that'd be a bit

1330
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,600
too communist well actually

1331
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,360
okay i mean yeah

1332
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,720
we don't know if you're going

1333
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:28,920
to do that there were laws

1334
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,380
passed in the united states uh

1335
00:43:30,380 --> 00:43:31,240
specifically the

1336
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,300
law i believe is called copa

1337
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:34,700
which is the child a child

1338
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,830
online privacy protection act i

1339
00:43:36,830 --> 00:43:37,480
believe

1340
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,520
and what it basically says is

1341
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,380
that's why if you sign up on

1342
00:43:41,380 --> 00:43:42,040
youtube

1343
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,040
and your account is marked as a

1344
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,120
child account so it's marked as

1345
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,200
like under 13 or whatever

1346
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,520
you know they can't show you

1347
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,280
ads and you're not allowed to

1348
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,380
engage with comments and they're

1349
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:54,680
not

1350
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,420
allowed to have an idea they're

1351
00:43:56,420 --> 00:43:58,160
not allowed to capture any data

1352
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,800
on you i have had an idea okay

1353
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,600
what if like on your own

1354
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,820
document you get a unique

1355
00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:07,140
number and when you make an

1356
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:09,400
account you have to put in

1357
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,900
that number and then it will it

1358
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:14,440
will it will like it only it'll

1359
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,680
it will only look at the age

1360
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,440
here's the problem

1361
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,190
the problem that you run into

1362
00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:23,920
and this is what people are

1363
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,780
actually afraid of because what

1364
00:44:25,780 --> 00:44:26,360
you're

1365
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,950
talking about is having a

1366
00:44:27,950 --> 00:44:29,730
universal id of some kind oh

1367
00:44:29,730 --> 00:44:31,490
yeah and yeah that would be a

1368
00:44:31,490 --> 00:44:33,000
tracking system right

1369
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,270
right for the internet like you

1370
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:37,270
know there's a country that

1371
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:39,270
does this it's called china

1372
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:39,880
yeah they

1373
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,570
have what's called like a

1374
00:44:41,570 --> 00:44:43,590
social like networking score

1375
00:44:43,590 --> 00:44:45,690
like and then the social credit

1376
00:44:45,690 --> 00:44:46,840
score yeah if you

1377
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,780
go online and you say something

1378
00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:50,800
yeah it's directly tracked back

1379
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,370
to you we can't do that and

1380
00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:53,080
actually

1381
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,550
in great britain it's even

1382
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:56,100
better yeah don't they have

1383
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,060
something similar where you can't

1384
00:44:58,060 --> 00:44:58,440
like

1385
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,460
yeah say anything bad about

1386
00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:02,200
anyone yeah if you're on

1387
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,410
twitter x whatever any social

1388
00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:06,440
networking site and you say

1389
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,830
uh like even if you're making a

1390
00:45:08,830 --> 00:45:11,040
joke which you shouldn't be

1391
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,240
making necessarily jokes about

1392
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:13,400
other

1393
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,130
cultures but you make an off-color

1394
00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:18,210
joke all somebody has to be

1395
00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:20,520
like is this deeply offends

1396
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,750
my cultural sensibilities this

1397
00:45:22,750 --> 00:45:24,900
deeply offends my closely held

1398
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:27,880
personal beliefs and the uk

1399
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,160
social

1400
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,460
media police come knocking at

1401
00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:33,120
your door and like charge you

1402
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,480
with crimes against humanity

1403
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,320
yeah because you

1404
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,290
offended somebody dang it like

1405
00:45:39,290 --> 00:45:41,170
that's a hate crime we can't do

1406
00:45:41,170 --> 00:45:42,830
that then but then how do we

1407
00:45:42,830 --> 00:45:43,640
verify it i

1408
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,180
want to protect the miners i

1409
00:45:46,180 --> 00:45:49,140
think that's important the only

1410
00:45:49,140 --> 00:45:52,040
way you can effectively do this

1411
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,930
let's put them all in orphanages

1412
00:45:54,930 --> 00:45:57,520
i mean no the way that you have

1413
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,000
to do this is still somewhat

1414
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,840
sketchy

1415
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,980
but i think it's only that it

1416
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:07,520
works so you set up the account

1417
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,780
for the child yeah and while

1418
00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:10,440
you're

1419
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,310
setting it up so like during

1420
00:46:12,310 --> 00:46:14,310
the setup process you you have

1421
00:46:14,310 --> 00:46:15,920
to put in like a driver's

1422
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,080
license number

1423
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,130
whether you're signing up as an

1424
00:46:19,130 --> 00:46:21,100
adult or you're signing up as a

1425
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:23,250
minor if you're signing up as a

1426
00:46:23,250 --> 00:46:23,800
minor you

1427
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,230
have to say this is my child

1428
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:28,440
here is my driver's id or

1429
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,370
whatever yeah there is a review

1430
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:33,000
process that takes

1431
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,910
place and the minute that

1432
00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:37,150
review is completed that data

1433
00:46:37,150 --> 00:46:39,400
is deleted yeah and you have to

1434
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,680
have double and

1435
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,600
triple redundancies to make

1436
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,160
sure that one that data is

1437
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,370
encrypted two that that data is

1438
00:46:49,370 --> 00:46:51,000
held and stored

1439
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,970
perhaps on a separate server

1440
00:46:52,970 --> 00:46:54,770
that does not have a direct

1441
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:56,570
connection to the outside

1442
00:46:56,570 --> 00:46:57,880
internet uh would

1443
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,080
would there be people involved

1444
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,020
or would it be ai because you

1445
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:03,970
might be able to do that with

1446
00:47:03,970 --> 00:47:04,600
ai and then

1447
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,110
no people would have seen the

1448
00:47:06,110 --> 00:47:07,750
well actually you can't direct

1449
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:09,060
you couldn't put it onto a

1450
00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:09,880
machine that

1451
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,240
doesn't have access to the

1452
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:12,870
internet because you'd have to

1453
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:14,300
have a way of validating the

1454
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:15,320
information which

1455
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,340
means connecting to external

1456
00:47:17,340 --> 00:47:19,600
databases yeah but regardless

1457
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,280
it would have to be some kind

1458
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,040
of double

1459
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,250
or triple security redundancy

1460
00:47:24,250 --> 00:47:26,440
system yeah but my question is

1461
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,700
would any other people see it i

1462
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:30,040
think

1463
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,970
when necessary yeah but there

1464
00:47:31,970 --> 00:47:33,800
can only be like three people

1465
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,500
who are permitted to see it

1466
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:36,520
most of the time

1467
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,030
if at all i don't know if you

1468
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:40,880
can do that i don't know i don't

1469
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,820
know man because and the reason

1470
00:47:42,820 --> 00:47:43,240
i say

1471
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:45,160
that is like you might need

1472
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,340
manual review under multiple

1473
00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:49,610
circumstances so let's say for

1474
00:47:49,610 --> 00:47:50,280
example

1475
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,470
i sign up for my account using

1476
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:54,900
my driver's license but then i

1477
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:56,850
also sign up for my son like i

1478
00:47:56,850 --> 00:47:57,880
get my son's

1479
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,060
account set up and i put my

1480
00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:00,540
driver's license in there yeah

1481
00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:02,060
well my driver's license is now

1482
00:48:02,060 --> 00:48:02,760
technically

1483
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,840
associated with two accounts

1484
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,470
yeah so that might flag um and

1485
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:07,750
you might have like a

1486
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:09,160
validation request that

1487
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,600
goes to your primary account

1488
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,980
saying well actually no the

1489
00:48:11,980 --> 00:48:13,420
data wouldn't be stored so it

1490
00:48:13,420 --> 00:48:14,280
wouldn't be able

1491
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,700
to double check that but then

1492
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:17,280
that's problematic because then

1493
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,550
anybody could use the same

1494
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:19,240
driver's id

1495
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:22,400
500 times why do miners make it

1496
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,950
so hard to protect them this is

1497
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:27,720
irritating yeah kids are stupid

1498
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:28,600
we hate the

1499
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,080
kids i mean what look look it's

1500
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,140
just general truth kids are

1501
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:35,170
stupid i mean they're not like

1502
00:48:35,170 --> 00:48:36,200
that it's not

1503
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,920
like they're maliciously stupid

1504
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,660
they're just their brains aren't

1505
00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:41,010
formed yet that's just the

1506
00:48:41,010 --> 00:48:41,800
reality of the

1507
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,060
situation yeah kids do dumb

1508
00:48:44,060 --> 00:48:46,620
things that was part of growing

1509
00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:48,790
up yeah so i don't know but i

1510
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:50,040
agree with you

1511
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,680
overall that there need to be

1512
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,760
better protections for children

1513
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,360
but on the flip side i think

1514
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,480
there need to

1515
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,800
be better laws in general

1516
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,570
regulating parenting and i'm

1517
00:49:04,570 --> 00:49:07,110
not saying regulating like

1518
00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:09,240
determining who can be a

1519
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:11,020
parent and who can't but i'm

1520
00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:11,800
saying like

1521
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,010
a certain level of enforcement

1522
00:49:16,010 --> 00:49:18,060
of the other rules and we haven't

1523
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:19,720
figured out quite how to do

1524
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:21,400
that but like

1525
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,360
all right let's be honest

1526
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,000
you didn't have a social media

1527
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,960
account until what 11 i think

1528
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,480
11 or 12.

1529
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,080
and that was a youtube channel

1530
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,240
i set up for you yeah so you

1531
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:39,800
could upload your videos you

1532
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,160
could argue though that i had

1533
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,400
minecraft when i was eight i

1534
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,830
just didn't yeah but we didn't

1535
00:49:43,830 --> 00:49:45,590
remember when i first went we

1536
00:49:45,590 --> 00:49:46,840
got you minecraft

1537
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,540
when you were eight but did we

1538
00:49:49,540 --> 00:49:52,250
let you do any shared servers

1539
00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:55,340
no no period yeah we and we're

1540
00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:56,520
not oh

1541
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,010
bored blue heron blue heron um

1542
00:49:59,010 --> 00:50:01,350
it looked majestic and that

1543
00:50:01,350 --> 00:50:03,850
wasn't to like cut you off from

1544
00:50:03,850 --> 00:50:04,920
society we

1545
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,490
we weren't like people bad

1546
00:50:06,490 --> 00:50:07,990
therefore you shouldn't

1547
00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:09,800
interact with people no it was

1548
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,440
more like

1549
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,590
we know how social media gamifies

1550
00:50:13,590 --> 00:50:16,310
attention we know how social

1551
00:50:16,310 --> 00:50:18,870
media does open up certain

1552
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:19,960
risks and now

1553
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,390
it's even worse and now it's

1554
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:25,130
even worse so there are sketchy

1555
00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:27,340
things that can happen on

1556
00:50:27,340 --> 00:50:29,160
social media there are

1557
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,930
people who are predators that's

1558
00:50:31,930 --> 00:50:33,610
not the reason to stay off of

1559
00:50:33,610 --> 00:50:35,170
social media i mean it is a

1560
00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:35,720
reason

1561
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,860
but the primary reason is to

1562
00:50:38,860 --> 00:50:42,290
keep your brain from thinking

1563
00:50:42,290 --> 00:50:46,220
in a way that engagement and

1564
00:50:46,220 --> 00:50:46,920
thumbs up

1565
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,940
and liking is a way of life and

1566
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:54,560
also short attention spans aren't

1567
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,640
fun i mean

1568
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,430
i mean as a as a as a as a an

1569
00:51:00,430 --> 00:51:04,840
embracer of the adhd lifestyle

1570
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,190
as an involuntary uh embracer

1571
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:11,800
of the adhd lifestyle i'll say

1572
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,300
yeah i mean attention span can

1573
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:18,680
be a little bit of a difficult

1574
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:21,780
what were we talking about

1575
00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:25,320
again yeah so

1576
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,260
yeah so so how do we protect

1577
00:51:30,260 --> 00:51:31,000
minors

1578
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:33,770
well again we have to have some

1579
00:51:33,770 --> 00:51:36,810
kind of internet protection put

1580
00:51:36,810 --> 00:51:39,320
in place i i think

1581
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,390
honestly maybe there should be

1582
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:47,710
some kind of like parenting

1583
00:51:47,710 --> 00:51:49,480
curriculum

1584
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,500
but the difficult thing with a

1585
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:53,560
parenting curriculum

1586
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,700
again we have to presume altruism

1587
00:51:56,700 --> 00:51:59,610
here unfortunately if we looked

1588
00:51:59,610 --> 00:52:00,920
at this from like

1589
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,620
a normal society view at this

1590
00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:06,250
point this would never flop

1591
00:52:06,250 --> 00:52:08,690
because if we said let's put

1592
00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:09,240
together a

1593
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:10,950
parenting curriculum for all

1594
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:12,680
the people in the united states

1595
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,440
it would immediately become

1596
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,660
well do do do we do we talk

1597
00:52:17,660 --> 00:52:20,240
about child gender studies or

1598
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:22,750
not do we talk about guns do we

1599
00:52:22,750 --> 00:52:23,240
talk

1600
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:26,380
about like it's like no you don't

1601
00:52:26,380 --> 00:52:29,070
give the step by step on like

1602
00:52:29,070 --> 00:52:32,220
fully raising the kid but you

1603
00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:34,600
give a good general overview of

1604
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,720
hey

1605
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:38,160
this is generally how to keep

1606
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,230
your kids safe online including

1607
00:52:41,230 --> 00:52:44,280
you don't hand kids a screen

1608
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,380
until they're x and x age or

1609
00:52:47,380 --> 00:52:51,380
without supervision we might

1610
00:52:51,380 --> 00:52:54,520
not be able to enforce it but

1611
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,040
we would

1612
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,350
greatly appreciate it but like

1613
00:52:58,350 --> 00:53:00,240
the point is like to have a

1614
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,170
course where it's like this is

1615
00:53:02,170 --> 00:53:03,000
the impact

1616
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,810
hey do you want to keep your

1617
00:53:04,810 --> 00:53:06,790
child safe this is the impact

1618
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:08,890
social media has here are the

1619
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:09,720
scientific

1620
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,400
studies back it up like on a

1621
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,390
forming brain yeah here here

1622
00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:15,000
are the studies about like

1623
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,450
child abandonment meaning like

1624
00:53:17,450 --> 00:53:19,250
you go off and do your own

1625
00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:22,230
thing and leave your child to fend

1626
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:22,680
for

1627
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,250
themselves but then give them

1628
00:53:24,250 --> 00:53:25,730
up and keep in mind there's a

1629
00:53:25,730 --> 00:53:28,000
balance with that because you

1630
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:28,280
don't want

1631
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,050
a child to be overly attached

1632
00:53:30,050 --> 00:53:31,980
to their parents either so it's

1633
00:53:31,980 --> 00:53:33,490
like a give and take i know

1634
00:53:33,490 --> 00:53:34,600
what you do

1635
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,700
what in like high school or

1636
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:39,100
something you have a video and

1637
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,000
and it can be about that

1638
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:44,360
oh yeah i'm sure high school

1639
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,230
schoolers will file that away

1640
00:53:47,230 --> 00:53:49,970
oh it may not yeah i don't know

1641
00:53:49,970 --> 00:53:51,000
i think the

1642
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,190
parenting course should be

1643
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:54,880
mandated like whenever it

1644
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,030
becomes apparent somebody is

1645
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:59,000
going to be bringing a

1646
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,460
pregnancy to term even if they've

1647
00:54:01,460 --> 00:54:02,910
already been through it once

1648
00:54:02,910 --> 00:54:06,360
before yeah like it's like with

1649
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,400
divorce

1650
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,970
with with divorce it doesn't

1651
00:54:09,970 --> 00:54:11,330
matter how many times you go

1652
00:54:11,330 --> 00:54:12,440
through the divorce

1653
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,230
like it doesn't matter if you're

1654
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:16,040
divorced three four five times

1655
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,330
in connecticut at least every

1656
00:54:18,330 --> 00:54:20,630
time you get divorced you have

1657
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:22,520
to go if there are children

1658
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,320
involved

1659
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,540
you have to go through like an

1660
00:54:25,540 --> 00:54:27,870
impact of divorce on children

1661
00:54:27,870 --> 00:54:28,520
course

1662
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:31,500
period yeah so they probably

1663
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:34,520
have something like that too

1664
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,170
well yeah i'm saying also

1665
00:54:37,170 --> 00:54:38,920
religion yes or no

1666
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,140
so here's what i'm saying i

1667
00:54:44,140 --> 00:54:45,820
think this is a good middle of

1668
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:46,360
the road

1669
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,000
very similar to the united

1670
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,580
states the state will not

1671
00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:54,780
recognize a state religion nor

1672
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:56,920
will it prohibit the

1673
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,490
free practice of the religion

1674
00:54:59,490 --> 00:55:00,490
provided that said free

1675
00:55:00,490 --> 00:55:03,180
practice of religion does not

1676
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:05,160
infringe upon other laws so

1677
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,170
for example if your free

1678
00:55:07,170 --> 00:55:09,890
practice of religion means that

1679
00:55:09,890 --> 00:55:13,040
you're getting high as fuck and

1680
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,680
you have underage

1681
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,330
kids in your church as well no

1682
00:55:17,330 --> 00:55:19,860
that ain't gonna fly and i'm

1683
00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:23,140
not saying like i'm not saying

1684
00:55:23,140 --> 00:55:24,520
anything about drug

1685
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,490
policy at this point um but the

1686
00:55:28,490 --> 00:55:31,980
big difference for religion is

1687
00:55:31,980 --> 00:55:36,120
not tax exempt oh yeah so you

1688
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,720
can have a

1689
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:39,580
religion and i'm fine with you

1690
00:55:39,580 --> 00:55:41,440
having religion but you're

1691
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,990
gonna pay taxes it might be a

1692
00:55:42,990 --> 00:55:44,360
lower tax bracket but

1693
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,320
not by much i mean unless your

1694
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,450
religion doesn't make money no

1695
00:55:48,450 --> 00:55:50,750
religion definitely makes money

1696
00:55:50,750 --> 00:55:51,960
yeah dude

1697
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:53,780
like don't get me wrong the

1698
00:55:53,780 --> 00:55:55,660
catholic church has made its

1699
00:55:55,660 --> 00:55:57,320
share of money but like

1700
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,300
the southern mega churches like

1701
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:03,120
their pastors give sermons like

1702
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,790
hey you know what i was praying

1703
00:56:05,790 --> 00:56:06,520
to god and

1704
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,590
god really said you know what

1705
00:56:08,590 --> 00:56:09,830
we need we need a second

1706
00:56:09,830 --> 00:56:12,490
private jet to be able to say

1707
00:56:12,490 --> 00:56:15,400
what well jay you

1708
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,200
know like god told me you

1709
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,540
should sell your first private

1710
00:56:19,540 --> 00:56:21,790
jet and donate the money to the

1711
00:56:21,790 --> 00:56:23,240
money to the local

1712
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,020
food pantry no no my

1713
00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:27,570
interpretation of god's will is

1714
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:29,970
different and it's the right

1715
00:56:29,970 --> 00:56:31,800
one yeah really is it

1716
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,590
yeah we gotta tax those

1717
00:56:33,590 --> 00:56:35,870
religions that make too much

1718
00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:38,040
money no no i know i'm saying

1719
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,000
in general

1720
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:40,770
i feel like it'd be probably

1721
00:56:40,770 --> 00:56:42,760
similar to like the the company

1722
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,750
thing where like it's based off

1723
00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:45,480
of how much

1724
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,870
profit you make yeah religion

1725
00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:49,920
is not tax exempt period yeah

1726
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,120
it is a business now it might

1727
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,080
be a business

1728
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,990
that's serving the public good

1729
00:56:54,990 --> 00:56:56,730
but it's still a business yeah

1730
00:56:56,730 --> 00:56:58,840
it might even be a not-for-profit

1731
00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:59,320
business

1732
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:00,840
but it's still a business but

1733
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,320
you have to prove that you're

1734
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,920
not making any money or that it's

1735
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,130
adhering to not-for-profit

1736
00:57:06,130 --> 00:57:07,680
standards and even not-for-profits

1737
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,680
i think in this country

1738
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:10,800
if you have a certain amount in

1739
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,410
savings or if you have a

1740
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:15,450
certain amount in whatever that's

1741
00:57:15,450 --> 00:57:15,800
going to

1742
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,460
get taxed so i don't know maybe

1743
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:19,110
you can't do not-for-profits

1744
00:57:19,110 --> 00:57:21,160
but then you can't do for-profits

1745
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,320
for

1746
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,210
medical so it's really hard to

1747
00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:24,730
figure out how to do that

1748
00:57:24,730 --> 00:57:26,880
because not-for-profits are not

1749
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,280
taxable in the u.s

1750
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,940
but like there's probably like

1751
00:57:30,940 --> 00:57:32,990
a certain how do you make

1752
00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:35,250
something how do you make a

1753
00:57:35,250 --> 00:57:36,360
standard of

1754
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,600
not-for-profit while being taxable

1755
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,210
there there needs to be like a

1756
00:57:40,210 --> 00:57:41,970
certain set of things that you

1757
00:57:41,970 --> 00:57:42,440
need to

1758
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,380
check off for it to be a true

1759
00:57:44,380 --> 00:57:46,980
not-for-profit that isn't taxable

1760
00:57:46,980 --> 00:57:48,750
and otherwise it will be

1761
00:57:48,750 --> 00:57:49,800
considered

1762
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,560
taxable i think that's true

1763
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,380
today too but there's ways to

1764
00:57:53,380 --> 00:57:55,170
get around it so we'd have to

1765
00:57:55,170 --> 00:57:55,800
make the

1766
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,470
tax code pretty clear yeah but

1767
00:57:58,470 --> 00:58:01,240
i'm saying religion should not

1768
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,170
be should not be tax-free they

1769
00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:04,920
should

1770
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,640
not get to survive rent-free

1771
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,420
just because they purport to

1772
00:58:08,420 --> 00:58:09,740
serve the greater good

1773
00:58:09,740 --> 00:58:10,840
especially when

1774
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,790
they're demon demonstrably

1775
00:58:12,790 --> 00:58:14,670
doing things with the money

1776
00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:16,630
instead of like investing in

1777
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:17,880
charitable work

1778
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,520
like they're they're buying

1779
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,290
private jets i'm sorry that's

1780
00:58:23,290 --> 00:58:27,120
not allowed yeah now we talked

1781
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,760
about religion

1782
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,980
yeah let's talk about something

1783
00:58:30,980 --> 00:58:32,880
that can for certain people

1784
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,760
under certain categories

1785
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,980
cause religious experiences and

1786
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:39,760
that's drugs so we already

1787
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,950
talked about pharmaceutical

1788
00:58:41,950 --> 00:58:42,600
drugs let's

1789
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,090
talk about recreational drugs

1790
00:58:45,090 --> 00:58:47,660
them hallucinogenic mushrooms

1791
00:58:47,660 --> 00:58:49,850
legal so here here's where i

1792
00:58:49,850 --> 00:58:50,840
stand on this

1793
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:52,840
and there there has to be a

1794
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,270
line somewhere so like there's

1795
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:57,060
there's got to be a line

1796
00:58:57,060 --> 00:58:58,200
between like

1797
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,840
hardcore like crack cocaine

1798
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,190
heroin and other things that

1799
00:59:04,190 --> 00:59:06,650
like having it once can really

1800
00:59:06,650 --> 00:59:07,640
mess you up

1801
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,620
and other drugs that are more

1802
00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:13,480
recreational like alcohol

1803
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,680
marijuana cigarettes cigars

1804
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,840
pipe tobacco i mean

1805
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,520
for like the the common ones

1806
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,430
probably probably like what is

1807
00:59:22,430 --> 00:59:24,280
here age of 21 to drink and

1808
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:25,960
maybe like the same thing for

1809
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,240
smoking yeah and i think

1810
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,300
i think well i think it depends

1811
00:59:31,300 --> 00:59:33,760
hear me out i think if the

1812
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,900
alcoholic beverage is at five

1813
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:37,320
percent or less

1814
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,640
18. okay because like if you're

1815
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,890
having one standard what about

1816
00:59:42,890 --> 00:59:45,290
cigarettes and stuff now that

1817
00:59:45,290 --> 00:59:48,600
could be 21. yeah um i think

1818
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:49,640
hallucinogenics

1819
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,890
it depends on the nature of the

1820
00:59:52,890 --> 00:59:54,970
hallucinogenic i think at

1821
00:59:54,970 --> 00:59:57,970
minimum hallucinogenics should

1822
00:59:57,970 --> 01:00:00,280
be legal for medicinal purposes

1823
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,910
under controlled circumstances

1824
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:06,750
now the recreational side i

1825
01:00:06,750 --> 01:00:10,050
think that what you do on the

1826
01:00:10,050 --> 01:00:12,360
recreational side is you say

1827
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:12,680
okay

1828
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,480
let's say like the medicinal

1829
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,650
dose makes you trip balls for

1830
01:00:21,650 --> 01:00:25,370
like two hours the recreational

1831
01:00:25,370 --> 01:00:27,340
would need to be something that

1832
01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:28,680
like lasts a fraction of that

1833
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:28,920
yeah

1834
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,790
yeah like at most an hour like

1835
01:00:30,790 --> 01:00:32,590
as for the hallucinogens and

1836
01:00:32,590 --> 01:00:34,410
that's very hard to control

1837
01:00:34,410 --> 01:00:36,110
because different people have

1838
01:00:36,110 --> 01:00:39,390
different reactions but like

1839
01:00:39,390 --> 01:00:42,180
average average time would be

1840
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:42,920
an hour

1841
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,980
yeah like on a live test source

1842
01:00:45,980 --> 01:00:48,800
yeah yeah i i think that that

1843
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,700
the difference between the

1844
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:54,040
medicinal version and the

1845
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,310
regular version is that the

1846
01:00:55,310 --> 01:00:56,930
regular version like the legal

1847
01:00:56,930 --> 01:00:58,550
version you're going to come

1848
01:00:58,550 --> 01:00:59,320
down from it

1849
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,420
in a relatively like short

1850
01:01:01,420 --> 01:01:03,980
amount of time span versus the

1851
01:01:03,980 --> 01:01:06,130
medicinal version you may be

1852
01:01:06,130 --> 01:01:08,960
having a very very long hallucinogenic

1853
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,920
experience but you have a

1854
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,480
trained

1855
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,540
psychological professional in

1856
01:01:14,540 --> 01:01:17,120
the room with you to help you

1857
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,590
to process and i think that

1858
01:01:19,590 --> 01:01:22,950
that would be fine yeah um i

1859
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:25,000
don't know about other drugs as

1860
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,240
much like uh there's mdma there's

1861
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,080
uh molly which i think is mdm

1862
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,480
day

1863
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,140
yeah just say 21 for the same

1864
01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:32,600
there's party like there's

1865
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,920
party like there are party

1866
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,500
drugs that just make you feel

1867
01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:37,730
kind of loopy and make colors

1868
01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:40,420
brighter and stuff we so i don't

1869
01:01:40,420 --> 01:01:42,310
know on that um the one

1870
01:01:42,310 --> 01:01:44,120
exception like i said the

1871
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,990
exception being you'd have to

1872
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:46,850
do additional testing on

1873
01:01:46,850 --> 01:01:48,630
cocaine before you legalize any

1874
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:51,480
aspect of it yeah um i think

1875
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:51,480
heroin

1876
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,570
heroin so again just to explain

1877
01:01:53,570 --> 01:01:55,370
the effects of heroin heroin

1878
01:01:55,370 --> 01:01:57,150
heroin heroin is a drug that

1879
01:01:57,150 --> 01:01:58,940
doesn't make pain go away it

1880
01:01:58,940 --> 01:02:00,360
just makes you not give a shit

1881
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,990
so what i would say about

1882
01:02:02,990 --> 01:02:07,000
heroin is legal for medicinal

1883
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,570
yeah just medicinal and what i

1884
01:02:09,570 --> 01:02:10,690
and canada has a great way of

1885
01:02:10,690 --> 01:02:12,110
dealing with this from what i've

1886
01:02:12,110 --> 01:02:12,440
heard

1887
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,920
in Canada they will give some

1888
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,570
patients heroin or the medical

1889
01:02:18,570 --> 01:02:19,860
equivalent of

1890
01:02:19,860 --> 01:02:22,120
heroin after a major surgery

1891
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,200
and they will keep giving a

1892
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,880
specific dose to the

1893
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,000
person until they say hey this

1894
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,050
is not working anymore could

1895
01:02:30,050 --> 01:02:31,240
you give me more

1896
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,820
of it at which point they will

1897
01:02:32,820 --> 01:02:34,050
change you over to more

1898
01:02:34,050 --> 01:02:35,080
traditional pain

1899
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,710
management medication so yeah

1900
01:02:37,710 --> 01:02:39,710
because the minute that

1901
01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:41,520
somebody starts feeling

1902
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,640
like they're dependent on it

1903
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,840
they and and even and also you

1904
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,620
could say here's

1905
01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:51,310
here's some more heroin it's

1906
01:02:51,310 --> 01:02:53,060
just it's just different type

1907
01:02:53,060 --> 01:02:54,300
well no but it's not

1908
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:55,790
well no you're not gonna

1909
01:02:55,790 --> 01:02:57,820
deceive patients but I'm saying

1910
01:02:57,820 --> 01:02:59,260
in terms of recreational

1911
01:02:59,260 --> 01:03:02,140
drugs I think the key for a new

1912
01:03:02,140 --> 01:03:05,160
country like a new brand new

1913
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,800
country is to be as

1914
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,810
objective as possible about it

1915
01:03:08,810 --> 01:03:10,660
and not to stigmatize it yeah

1916
01:03:10,660 --> 01:03:11,900
because one of the

1917
01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:13,700
big problems we have in the

1918
01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:15,740
United States is addiction well

1919
01:03:15,740 --> 01:03:17,000
yeah is addiction but

1920
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,400
that's due to a variety of

1921
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,570
reasons mental emotional situational

1922
01:03:20,570 --> 01:03:21,620
but one of the big

1923
01:03:21,620 --> 01:03:24,620
problems is we are very very

1924
01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:27,760
good at saying this thing bad

1925
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,700
don't do it until

1926
01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:32,110
you reach a certain age then oh

1927
01:03:32,110 --> 01:03:33,910
it's okay hmm like the

1928
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:36,210
education around something

1929
01:03:36,210 --> 01:03:37,500
should not be this

1930
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:40,500
thing bad this thing good yeah

1931
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:43,030
and the drug education in

1932
01:03:43,030 --> 01:03:46,140
classrooms should be here are

1933
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:46,440
the

1934
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,410
list of drugs legal and illegal

1935
01:03:48,410 --> 01:03:50,310
that you may encounter in your

1936
01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:52,480
everyday life either hearing

1937
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,260
mentioned on the news you know

1938
01:03:55,260 --> 01:03:58,800
seeing you know sold etc.

1939
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,200
these are the impacts positive

1940
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,770
and negative of these drugs yep

1941
01:04:05,770 --> 01:04:08,410
and to repeatedly have that be

1942
01:04:08,410 --> 01:04:10,090
part of education so have it

1943
01:04:10,090 --> 01:04:11,910
like right like pretty much

1944
01:04:11,910 --> 01:04:13,450
every year yeah like sixth

1945
01:04:13,450 --> 01:04:15,170
grade seventh grade eighth

1946
01:04:15,170 --> 01:04:17,400
grade like anything from sixth

1947
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:18,400
grade up yeah part of the

1948
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,250
educational system is we're

1949
01:04:20,250 --> 01:04:22,340
educating you not on whether

1950
01:04:22,340 --> 01:04:24,560
drugs are good or bad but on

1951
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,250
what they do but on what they

1952
01:04:26,250 --> 01:04:26,600
do

1953
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:29,220
maybe throw maybe throw

1954
01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:30,950
pharmaceutical drugs in there

1955
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:32,410
too so you can be like hey by

1956
01:04:32,410 --> 01:04:34,200
the way yeah pharmaceutical

1957
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,180
drugs have side effects too let's

1958
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:37,680
look at some of the common

1959
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,590
pharmaceutical drugs and their

1960
01:04:39,590 --> 01:04:41,410
side effects and then it's like

1961
01:04:41,410 --> 01:04:43,270
every pharmaceutical drug has

1962
01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:44,970
like two or three pages in the

1963
01:04:44,970 --> 01:04:46,520
textbook with all the side

1964
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:47,280
effects

1965
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,480
those poor kids the drug

1966
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,190
companies are like suing the

1967
01:04:52,190 --> 01:04:54,170
textbook companies like hey you

1968
01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:55,590
can't be pushing this stuff

1969
01:04:55,590 --> 01:04:57,000
what are you talking about

1970
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,370
about we got this we got this

1971
01:04:59,370 --> 01:05:01,720
data from your own like drug

1972
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,480
fact sheet yeah but

1973
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,630
you can't put that out there we

1974
01:05:05,630 --> 01:05:07,870
just did why not it's available

1975
01:05:07,870 --> 01:05:08,980
freely on your

1976
01:05:08,980 --> 01:05:11,690
website but but you're gonna

1977
01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:14,380
scare people away from using

1978
01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:15,820
the drugs no we

1979
01:05:15,820 --> 01:05:18,550
listed the positive effects

1980
01:05:18,550 --> 01:05:21,250
with the negative and it's up

1981
01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:22,800
to the person we

1982
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,390
state multiple times it's up to

1983
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:25,860
you and your doctor to decide

1984
01:05:25,860 --> 01:05:26,800
what to use these

1985
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,600
foreign land yeah and we only

1986
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,680
covered the basic ones we only

1987
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:31,780
covered the ones that

1988
01:05:31,780 --> 01:05:33,360
are more well known yeah we

1989
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,220
didn't cover your like one-off

1990
01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:36,520
drugs or anything we

1991
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,290
just covered like I mean unless

1992
01:05:38,290 --> 01:05:39,830
you want us to cover yeah but

1993
01:05:39,830 --> 01:05:40,840
we just covered

1994
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,930
things like you know ibuprofen

1995
01:05:42,930 --> 01:05:45,080
and Tylenol and the flu shot

1996
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,840
and stuff like that and

1997
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,750
even with the flu shot like if

1998
01:05:48,750 --> 01:05:50,600
you look at your list of side

1999
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:51,820
effects it's not

2000
01:05:51,820 --> 01:05:53,810
nearly as bad as your list of

2001
01:05:53,810 --> 01:05:56,280
side effects for chemotherapy

2002
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:56,600
drugs so

2003
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,560
okay there are two more things

2004
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,280
to decide well we don't have

2005
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,580
that much time do we

2006
01:06:01,580 --> 01:06:03,520
yeah we can talk about it

2007
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,950
inside okay one schools how

2008
01:06:05,950 --> 01:06:08,120
does work and they are the same

2009
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,540
or I I think the way schools so

2010
01:06:11,540 --> 01:06:14,800
first of all there should be

2011
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,480
some kind of national

2012
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,550
standard for performance and it's

2013
01:06:21,550 --> 01:06:24,770
not just about like can your

2014
01:06:24,770 --> 01:06:27,990
kid pass the test it needs to

2015
01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:28,920
be both

2016
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,230
emotional development and

2017
01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:33,780
intellectual development yeah

2018
01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:36,380
it can't just be like well we

2019
01:06:36,380 --> 01:06:38,600
did you know we made

2020
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,000
Johnny crammed for the state

2021
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,890
math test and he got high

2022
01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:44,220
scores and then tomorrow he

2023
01:06:44,220 --> 01:06:44,700
forgets.

2024
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:46,660
Like, first of all, that's only

2025
01:06:46,660 --> 01:06:48,400
measuring intellectual.

2026
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,200
It's not measuring, hey, is

2027
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,140
this kid's emotional needs

2028
01:06:53,140 --> 01:06:54,300
being met?

2029
01:06:54,620 --> 01:06:55,630
And I know it sounds weird to

2030
01:06:55,630 --> 01:06:56,240
say this.

2031
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,020
And the bullies would all get Fs.

2032
01:06:58,020 --> 01:06:58,420
Right.

2033
01:06:58,580 --> 01:07:00,090
I know it's weird to be saying

2034
01:07:00,090 --> 01:07:01,970
this, but I honestly think that

2035
01:07:01,970 --> 01:07:03,730
some level of psychological

2036
01:07:03,730 --> 01:07:04,780
evaluation,

2037
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,870
not like, you know, sit down in

2038
01:07:07,870 --> 01:07:09,780
a chair with a bright spotlight

2039
01:07:09,780 --> 01:07:11,220
on you in a dark room,

2040
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,470
but like, no, just like

2041
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:13,700
throughout the year.

2042
01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:15,540
Just ask how they're doing.

2043
01:07:15,620 --> 01:07:19,240
A school psychologist checks up,

2044
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,740
reports back things, you know,

2045
01:07:21,740 --> 01:07:22,760
to parents,

2046
01:07:22,940 --> 01:07:24,250
asks parents, hey, what's going

2047
01:07:24,250 --> 01:07:24,760
on here?

2048
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,360
You know, like if Johnny comes

2049
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:27,880
in and says, like, my dad hit

2050
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,730
me, well, that junk's got to be

2051
01:07:29,730 --> 01:07:30,760
investigated.

2052
01:07:31,220 --> 01:07:31,300
Yeah.

2053
01:07:31,860 --> 01:07:32,320
You know.

2054
01:07:32,460 --> 01:07:33,780
Especially since this country

2055
01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:35,030
cares very much about minor

2056
01:07:35,030 --> 01:07:35,760
protection.

2057
01:07:35,860 --> 01:07:36,000
Yeah.

2058
01:07:36,460 --> 01:07:37,970
How are you dealing with, like,

2059
01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:39,620
oh, I am being bullied.

2060
01:07:39,780 --> 01:07:40,120
Okay.

2061
01:07:40,660 --> 01:07:42,540
Well, what is happening?

2062
01:07:42,860 --> 01:07:44,020
Bring up the situation.

2063
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:44,920
Explain things.

2064
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,340
Because sometimes somebody's

2065
01:07:46,340 --> 01:07:47,860
being bullied and sometimes it's

2066
01:07:47,860 --> 01:07:49,400
an emotional response where it's

2067
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,160
not really bullying,

2068
01:07:50,300 --> 01:07:51,390
but the person is so insecure

2069
01:07:51,390 --> 01:07:52,220
in themselves.

2070
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:53,360
So you have to make that

2071
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,280
distinction.

2072
01:07:54,460 --> 01:07:55,500
And that's not to say that I'm

2073
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:56,620
calling out victims.

2074
01:07:57,340 --> 01:07:58,620
Like, I'm not siding with the

2075
01:07:58,620 --> 01:07:59,780
bullies here.

2076
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,450
I'm saying that there is true

2077
01:08:01,450 --> 01:08:02,850
bullying where there are true

2078
01:08:02,850 --> 01:08:04,270
victims and that junk needs to

2079
01:08:04,270 --> 01:08:05,280
be taken care of.

2080
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,560
But there are also situations

2081
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,040
where somebody's like, well, I

2082
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:08,780
feel bullied.

2083
01:08:09,780 --> 01:08:11,070
And there, it might have been

2084
01:08:11,070 --> 01:08:12,300
an interesting comment.

2085
01:08:12,540 --> 01:08:13,990
And while the person that made

2086
01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:15,810
that comment might need to, you

2087
01:08:15,810 --> 01:08:17,820
know, be a bit more sensitive.

2088
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:18,780
Be more sensitive.

2089
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,360
It also is the person is being

2090
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,160
a little bit sensitive too.

2091
01:08:22,380 --> 01:08:23,920
And those underlying causes of

2092
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,290
that sensitivity need to be

2093
01:08:25,290 --> 01:08:26,040
addressed.

2094
01:08:26,820 --> 01:08:26,860
Yeah.

2095
01:08:26,940 --> 01:08:27,920
I think in terms of schools,

2096
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,040
though, there does have to be

2097
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:29,850
some kind of national

2098
01:08:29,850 --> 01:08:30,480
curriculum.

2099
01:08:30,780 --> 01:08:33,640
It does have to cover health.

2100
01:08:34,020 --> 01:08:36,040
It has to cover sexual well-being,

2101
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,040
obviously.

2102
01:08:37,820 --> 01:08:40,480
And sexual well-being based on...

2103
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:41,300
Should there be stuff about

2104
01:08:41,300 --> 01:08:41,860
mental health?

2105
01:08:41,860 --> 01:08:42,240
Multiple studies.

2106
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:42,860
Mental health.

2107
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,060
Mental health should be

2108
01:08:44,060 --> 01:08:45,240
incorporated in it.

2109
01:08:45,780 --> 01:08:47,600
Logic at later ages should be

2110
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,080
incorporated in it.

2111
01:08:49,980 --> 01:08:51,180
Funding for school.

2112
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:52,780
Funding for school.

2113
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,940
Again, largely state funded.

2114
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:56,480
Yeah.

2115
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,640
Well, it's town.

2116
01:08:57,900 --> 01:08:59,840
Maybe it's funded at the town

2117
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,040
and state and country level.

2118
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:02,800
Yep.

2119
01:09:03,540 --> 01:09:05,500
But I think we need to build a

2120
01:09:05,500 --> 01:09:08,440
program in there where if there

2121
01:09:08,440 --> 01:09:10,740
are private schools,

2122
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:12,350
we have to work to make the

2123
01:09:12,350 --> 01:09:14,300
private schools accessible.

2124
01:09:15,380 --> 01:09:16,740
So, one, the private schools

2125
01:09:16,740 --> 01:09:17,930
are still going to be held to

2126
01:09:17,930 --> 01:09:19,480
the same standard of minimum.

2127
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:20,060
Yeah.

2128
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,230
Or minimum standard as everyone

2129
01:09:22,230 --> 01:09:22,800
else.

2130
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:23,990
There could still be religious

2131
01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:24,480
schools.

2132
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,490
There could still be private,

2133
01:09:26,490 --> 01:09:28,540
like, well-to-do schools.

2134
01:09:28,780 --> 01:09:30,150
There can be technical schools

2135
01:09:30,150 --> 01:09:31,830
that cover more programming and

2136
01:09:31,830 --> 01:09:32,380
stuff.

2137
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,120
But they all must...

2138
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:33,780
And colleges.

2139
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:34,600
Yes.

2140
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,600
But they all must meet the bare

2141
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:37,420
minimum.

2142
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,280
For that type of school.

2143
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,220
And on top of that, if a public

2144
01:09:42,220 --> 01:09:43,660
school kid wants to go to a

2145
01:09:43,660 --> 01:09:45,000
private school,

2146
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,880
then the state is going to

2147
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,940
offset the cost of that somehow.

2148
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,330
So, it's not going to be

2149
01:09:54,330 --> 01:09:56,080
limited to just, like, the

2150
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,180
wealthy kids.

2151
01:09:57,180 --> 01:09:57,700
Yeah.

2152
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:00,360
And I know that's like, well,

2153
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,200
wait, the whole point of

2154
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,180
private school is so that you

2155
01:10:02,180 --> 01:10:03,520
can have a different education.

2156
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:04,520
Well, yeah, you're going to

2157
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:05,640
have a different education, but

2158
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:06,680
it's just going to be available

2159
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:07,360
to more people.

2160
01:10:07,460 --> 01:10:09,370
So, if you want your kid to go

2161
01:10:09,370 --> 01:10:10,940
to a religious school,

2162
01:10:10,940 --> 01:10:13,200
Christian, Muslim, Buddhist,

2163
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,180
whatever.

2164
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:14,840
Islamic.

2165
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:16,740
Yeah, I said Muslim.

2166
01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:17,380
Oh, yeah.

2167
01:10:18,180 --> 01:10:18,780
But that's fine.

2168
01:10:19,780 --> 01:10:21,650
Then they should have access to

2169
01:10:21,650 --> 01:10:24,140
do so without it costing $5,000

2170
01:10:24,140 --> 01:10:25,160
for the year.

2171
01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:25,520
Yeah.

2172
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,600
Or $10,000 a year.

2173
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,040
It's just ridiculous.

2174
01:10:30,460 --> 01:10:31,940
So, that's where I stand on

2175
01:10:31,940 --> 01:10:33,140
schools as a whole.

2176
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:33,900
Okay.

2177
01:10:34,780 --> 01:10:36,200
And what's your final question?

2178
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,920
So, one final question is, if

2179
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,520
this country were to take off

2180
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,970
and become known as the most

2181
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:46,000
amazing country ever,

2182
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,670
What are the rules for the

2183
01:10:51,670 --> 01:10:54,840
immigrants and refugees?

2184
01:10:56,900 --> 01:10:58,100
It's hard to say.

2185
01:10:59,220 --> 01:11:01,130
I think when it comes to

2186
01:11:01,130 --> 01:11:03,490
refugees, refugees, first of

2187
01:11:03,490 --> 01:11:07,140
all, there's a vetting process.

2188
01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:08,550
Like, you have to be able to

2189
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:10,090
show us proof that the kid that

2190
01:11:10,090 --> 01:11:11,490
you're bringing with you is

2191
01:11:11,490 --> 01:11:13,180
actually your child or is

2192
01:11:13,180 --> 01:11:15,380
actually related to you in some

2193
01:11:15,380 --> 01:11:15,980
way.

2194
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,140
Or the people that you're

2195
01:11:17,140 --> 01:11:18,310
bringing over are coming of

2196
01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:19,380
their own free will.

2197
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:20,860
So, interpreters, etc.

2198
01:11:21,260 --> 01:11:21,460
Yeah.

2199
01:11:21,460 --> 01:11:24,050
But for refugees, I think there

2200
01:11:24,050 --> 01:11:25,800
has to be a demonstrable

2201
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,190
conflict taking place in their

2202
01:11:28,190 --> 01:11:29,240
country.

2203
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,270
It can't just be like, well, I'm

2204
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:32,750
impoverished and I don't feel

2205
01:11:32,750 --> 01:11:34,420
like my country is taking good

2206
01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:35,280
care of me.

2207
01:11:35,780 --> 01:11:38,070
It has to be like, my life is

2208
01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:39,500
in danger.

2209
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:40,480
Yeah.

2210
01:11:40,940 --> 01:11:44,070
And that's specifically for,

2211
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:46,280
what do you call it?

2212
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,060
For refugees.

2213
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:47,420
Yeah.

2214
01:11:47,780 --> 01:11:50,040
For immigration, I don't know

2215
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,480
specifically the best way to

2216
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:53,400
word it.

2217
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,070
But I think that there has to

2218
01:11:58,070 --> 01:12:01,740
be a very, you know, clearly

2219
01:12:01,740 --> 01:12:04,360
laid out process.

2220
01:12:05,180 --> 01:12:06,660
There will probably be some

2221
01:12:06,660 --> 01:12:09,290
kind of quota because you can't

2222
01:12:09,290 --> 01:12:11,990
like just rapidly accept people

2223
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:12,540
in.

2224
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:13,200
Yeah.

2225
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,460
I don't think that it should be

2226
01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:15,120
expensive.

2227
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:16,040
No.

2228
01:12:16,260 --> 01:12:18,110
I don't think that there should

2229
01:12:18,110 --> 01:12:19,920
be like an overly complicated

2230
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:20,680
process.

2231
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,530
But I do think that it's

2232
01:12:23,530 --> 01:12:25,080
several parts.

2233
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:26,630
Part one is validating you are

2234
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:28,080
who you say that you are.

2235
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,520
And that you don't really have

2236
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,920
a massive criminal record.

2237
01:12:33,140 --> 01:12:34,600
That anybody coming with you is

2238
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,940
who they say they are.

2239
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:37,890
And then I think the second

2240
01:12:37,890 --> 01:12:40,280
part is general education about

2241
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,460
laws and like the key aspects

2242
01:12:42,460 --> 01:12:44,690
of the founding of the country

2243
01:12:44,690 --> 01:12:46,640
and that type of stuff.

2244
01:12:47,420 --> 01:12:49,670
And then the third part is kind

2245
01:12:49,670 --> 01:12:52,280
of ongoing, even after you

2246
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,130
become a citizen, ongoing kind

2247
01:12:54,130 --> 01:12:56,390
of, I don't want to call it

2248
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:58,540
integration because that then

2249
01:12:58,540 --> 01:13:00,800
sounds like brainwashing.

2250
01:13:01,260 --> 01:13:02,500
But like ongoing services to

2251
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:04,320
make sure, hey, are you doing

2252
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:04,900
okay?

2253
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:06,630
Do you feel like you're part of

2254
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:07,860
the local community?

2255
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,540
Like what can we do to help you

2256
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:11,240
to feel more productive?

2257
01:13:11,420 --> 01:13:12,880
Are you having a difficult time

2258
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,680
learning whatever the language

2259
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:14,980
is?

2260
01:13:14,980 --> 01:13:17,460
Are you having a difficult time

2261
01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:18,320
finding work?

2262
01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:19,710
Are you having, is your kid

2263
01:13:19,710 --> 01:13:20,980
having a difficult time at

2264
01:13:20,980 --> 01:13:21,560
school?

2265
01:13:21,740 --> 01:13:23,100
And making sure that we have

2266
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:24,780
things available to make that

2267
01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:25,920
process easier.

2268
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,090
And I think honestly, there

2269
01:13:28,090 --> 01:13:29,910
should be a like minimum

2270
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:32,090
documentation fees for this

2271
01:13:32,090 --> 01:13:32,900
stuff.

2272
01:13:33,820 --> 01:13:34,820
And maybe like costs for

2273
01:13:34,820 --> 01:13:36,680
background checks.

2274
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,040
But it shouldn't be like $5,000,

2275
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,640
$10,000, $15,000.

2276
01:13:42,700 --> 01:13:46,470
It should be, okay, we ran a

2277
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:48,600
background check.

2278
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,380
You know, we double checked

2279
01:13:50,380 --> 01:13:51,380
your ID online.

2280
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,180
That was like $50.

2281
01:13:53,980 --> 01:13:55,480
The education is included, but

2282
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:57,720
there is like, we do have to

2283
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:58,890
charge for certain

2284
01:13:58,890 --> 01:14:00,260
documentation.

2285
01:14:00,700 --> 01:14:01,370
Like when you get your

2286
01:14:01,370 --> 01:14:03,100
citizenship, when you have your

2287
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:04,620
temporary citizenship.

2288
01:14:05,460 --> 01:14:06,540
You have to have a tax ID

2289
01:14:06,540 --> 01:14:08,030
number because you're going to

2290
01:14:08,030 --> 01:14:08,720
pay taxes.

2291
01:14:09,140 --> 01:14:09,960
Temporary visas.

2292
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:11,340
Yeah, temporary visas, that

2293
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:12,140
type of stuff.

2294
01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:13,800
So you do have to pay for that

2295
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,000
stuff, but it's not going to be

2296
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:15,940
thousands of dollars.

2297
01:14:15,940 --> 01:14:17,490
It's going to be whatever a

2298
01:14:17,490 --> 01:14:19,480
legitimate document processing

2299
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:20,900
fee might look like.

2300
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,220
And last but not least, like

2301
01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:25,480
the actual citizenship.

2302
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:26,680
Yeah, I'm sure that there's

2303
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,970
going to be, you know, a

2304
01:14:27,970 --> 01:14:28,780
document charge for that

2305
01:14:28,780 --> 01:14:30,030
because we have to get you into

2306
01:14:30,030 --> 01:14:30,930
all the databases and

2307
01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:31,700
everything.

2308
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:32,580
Whatever that looks like.

2309
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:33,870
Because keep in mind, you have

2310
01:14:33,870 --> 01:14:35,030
to pay the overheads of those

2311
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:35,680
databases.

2312
01:14:36,020 --> 01:14:38,280
So yeah, I think that there has

2313
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,220
to be a vetting process.

2314
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,900
I think there's also a maximum

2315
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:43,120
quota based upon the

2316
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,820
sustainable population that

2317
01:14:44,820 --> 01:14:46,440
your country can handle.

2318
01:14:46,660 --> 01:14:48,970
And the sustainable population

2319
01:14:48,970 --> 01:14:51,170
that your country can handle is

2320
01:14:51,170 --> 01:14:53,480
based on what industry is there

2321
01:14:53,480 --> 01:14:55,470
in your country versus the

2322
01:14:55,470 --> 01:14:57,960
amount of people that you have,

2323
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,430
the amount of people that you

2324
01:14:59,430 --> 01:15:01,090
expect to be born natively and

2325
01:15:01,090 --> 01:15:01,900
immigration.

2326
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:04,370
So if you hit a certain limit

2327
01:15:04,370 --> 01:15:06,430
of, well, we know we can only

2328
01:15:06,430 --> 01:15:08,610
sustain including births that

2329
01:15:08,610 --> 01:15:10,520
are going to take place this

2330
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,720
year, current population and

2331
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,230
immigration, we can only handle

2332
01:15:15,230 --> 01:15:17,460
5 million total citizens.

2333
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,000
And because of that, our

2334
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,690
immigration cap this year is at

2335
01:15:21,690 --> 01:15:23,920
like 500,000 people.

2336
01:15:24,620 --> 01:15:25,700
That's the cap.

2337
01:15:26,140 --> 01:15:27,950
And unfortunately, once that

2338
01:15:27,950 --> 01:15:29,900
cap is hit, you're going to

2339
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:32,460
have to wait until another time.

2340
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,540
And that also has to take care,

2341
01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:36,240
take into consideration

2342
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,250
temporary visas for work and

2343
01:15:38,250 --> 01:15:39,440
stuff as well.

2344
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:40,630
Because sometimes people come

2345
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:41,740
to the country to work for six

2346
01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:42,220
months.

2347
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,590
Well, that's still a body in

2348
01:15:44,590 --> 01:15:46,360
the country that has to be

2349
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,340
cared for.

2350
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:48,980
It's not like, you know, you

2351
01:15:48,980 --> 01:15:50,670
could just be like, well, you

2352
01:15:50,670 --> 01:15:52,150
know, there might be some

2353
01:15:52,150 --> 01:15:53,910
flexibility, but really all of

2354
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:55,570
the immigration and stuff has

2355
01:15:55,570 --> 01:15:57,290
to be taken into consideration

2356
01:15:57,290 --> 01:15:58,600
of the well-being of the

2357
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,040
country as a whole.

2358
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:01,440
So we want to give people

2359
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:02,200
opportunities.

2360
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:03,970
Refugees, there's a little bit

2361
01:16:03,970 --> 01:16:05,630
of a different standard there

2362
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:07,100
because you literally are

2363
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:08,690
dealing with somebody who is

2364
01:16:08,690 --> 01:16:10,760
under life and death situation.

2365
01:16:10,980 --> 01:16:12,770
Whether they're escaping from a

2366
01:16:12,770 --> 01:16:14,770
cartel or whether their country

2367
01:16:14,770 --> 01:16:16,920
is just going to absolute crap.

2368
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:17,380
Yeah.

2369
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,550
And then you have to question

2370
01:16:19,550 --> 01:16:21,250
at what point does that refugee

2371
01:16:21,250 --> 01:16:23,020
situation become, we send you

2372
01:16:23,020 --> 01:16:24,470
back or we get you into the

2373
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:26,100
citizenship program.

2374
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,410
And what is the wait time for

2375
01:16:27,410 --> 01:16:27,880
that?

2376
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,110
So there's still a lot of

2377
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:30,600
things that have to be ironed

2378
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,080
out.

2379
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,600
And it's not a simple thing.

2380
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:33,220
Yeah.

2381
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,910
But this is still a decent idea

2382
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:36,940
though.

2383
01:16:37,420 --> 01:16:39,320
And I think if you did come

2384
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,830
over from another country and

2385
01:16:41,830 --> 01:16:43,950
you overstayed your temporary

2386
01:16:43,950 --> 01:16:45,800
visa or you snuck in.

2387
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:48,450
Look, I hate to say it, but

2388
01:16:48,450 --> 01:16:51,160
there are laws for a reason.

2389
01:16:52,820 --> 01:16:54,060
So, like, if you legitimately

2390
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:55,770
just forgot to file an

2391
01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:58,550
extension, then we'll call you

2392
01:16:58,550 --> 01:17:01,000
up and be like, hey, you're

2393
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,370
still here, but your thing

2394
01:17:03,370 --> 01:17:05,800
ended 30 days ago.

2395
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,270
Do you need to file an

2396
01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:07,880
extension?

2397
01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:08,800
Did you just forget?

2398
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:09,870
And you only get so many

2399
01:17:09,870 --> 01:17:10,660
extensions.

2400
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:11,220
Yeah.

2401
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,300
At which point then, sorry, you're

2402
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:13,800
out.

2403
01:17:14,460 --> 01:17:16,020
Or you can, like, reply to

2404
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:18,080
visas and something.

2405
01:17:19,700 --> 01:17:20,260
Possibly, but you don't want to

2406
01:17:20,260 --> 01:17:22,180
reward people for, like.

2407
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,280
Well, like, if, like, while you're,

2408
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,870
while you still have temporary

2409
01:17:25,870 --> 01:17:26,420
visas.

2410
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,660
Yeah, but it depends on what

2411
01:17:27,660 --> 01:17:28,890
the quotas look like at that

2412
01:17:28,890 --> 01:17:29,520
point too.

2413
01:17:29,580 --> 01:17:29,640
Yeah.

2414
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:31,130
Because if there are other

2415
01:17:31,130 --> 01:17:32,750
people in line that have been

2416
01:17:32,750 --> 01:17:33,980
waiting to get in.

2417
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:34,580
Yeah.

2418
01:17:34,940 --> 01:17:36,080
Just because you're on a

2419
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,470
temporary visa doesn't mean

2420
01:17:37,470 --> 01:17:38,910
that, oh, well, we're just

2421
01:17:38,910 --> 01:17:40,620
going to let you jump the line.

2422
01:17:41,180 --> 01:17:42,440
So there's, there's got to be a

2423
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:44,190
method to that madness, so to

2424
01:17:44,190 --> 01:17:44,780
speak.

2425
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,750
Now, if you're just straight up

2426
01:17:46,750 --> 01:17:48,340
in the country illegally.

2427
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:49,700
First of all, we will run a

2428
01:17:49,700 --> 01:17:51,260
criminal background check on

2429
01:17:51,260 --> 01:17:51,700
you.

2430
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:52,880
Secondly.

2431
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:54,640
Bye.

2432
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,600
Like, and I hate being so mean

2433
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:57,280
about that.

2434
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:58,310
Like, well, there's mitigating

2435
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:58,920
circumstances.

2436
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:00,160
Okay.

2437
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:00,910
Somebody that comes here

2438
01:18:00,910 --> 01:18:01,870
illegally, they don't have a

2439
01:18:01,870 --> 01:18:02,480
criminal record.

2440
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,560
And maybe they have their kids

2441
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:05,730
with them and they were

2442
01:18:05,730 --> 01:18:07,760
escaping from an abusive person.

2443
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,660
Or, or they're like, they, like,

2444
01:18:09,660 --> 01:18:11,480
they, like, they, me, like, the

2445
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:13,190
whole thing where they, the mace

2446
01:18:13,190 --> 01:18:14,470
and stuff on the farms and

2447
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:15,140
stuff.

2448
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,680
No, that, that would be

2449
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,640
temporary work visa.

2450
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,120
Yeah, but there are some that

2451
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,100
do it illegally.

2452
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,350
So, like, what would happen

2453
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:23,720
then?

2454
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:25,250
Well, first of all, that's a

2455
01:18:25,250 --> 01:18:27,040
horrible stereotype, presuming

2456
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,390
that, you know, illegal

2457
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:29,920
immigrants are the ones.

2458
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:30,560
Okay.

2459
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,010
Well, still, the point is then,

2460
01:18:33,010 --> 01:18:34,950
you should be offering a way

2461
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:37,220
for those, for those people who

2462
01:18:37,220 --> 01:18:38,940
want to work to come here

2463
01:18:38,940 --> 01:18:39,920
legally.

2464
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:40,720
Yeah.

2465
01:18:41,060 --> 01:18:43,260
Like, the question then becomes,

2466
01:18:43,260 --> 01:18:44,790
why are, are you doing this

2467
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:46,640
illegally when we have a path

2468
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,440
for you to do it legally?

2469
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:50,960
And it depends on the

2470
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,400
circumstances.

2471
01:18:52,940 --> 01:18:54,620
If the current set of legal

2472
01:18:54,620 --> 01:18:56,400
visas are available and the

2473
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,320
person doesn't have a criminal

2474
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,900
record and they have been

2475
01:18:59,900 --> 01:19:01,870
paying taxes using some kind of

2476
01:19:01,870 --> 01:19:03,520
tax ID, then maybe we will

2477
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,660
offer them a temporary visa.

2478
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:07,340
But if they're just straight up

2479
01:19:07,340 --> 01:19:08,950
here illegally, they're not

2480
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:10,750
working, you know, they're not

2481
01:19:10,750 --> 01:19:12,300
in an asylum situation and it

2482
01:19:12,300 --> 01:19:13,850
was so bad that they couldn't

2483
01:19:13,850 --> 01:19:15,660
wait for the asylum process.

2484
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,570
Then, or they have a really bad

2485
01:19:18,570 --> 01:19:20,170
criminal record and we found

2486
01:19:20,170 --> 01:19:21,850
that they're related to drug

2487
01:19:21,850 --> 01:19:23,080
cartels and stuff.

2488
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,520
I'm sorry, but no, we're

2489
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,500
sending you back.

2490
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,070
And we're also making sure that

2491
01:19:29,070 --> 01:19:30,460
we fingerprint you and have

2492
01:19:30,460 --> 01:19:31,910
photos of you so that the next

2493
01:19:31,910 --> 01:19:33,530
time you try to come over, we'll

2494
01:19:33,530 --> 01:19:34,930
recognize you in the system

2495
01:19:34,930 --> 01:19:35,980
more quickly.

2496
01:19:37,940 --> 01:19:39,480
And that's the way it is.

2497
01:19:40,060 --> 01:19:41,460
Because I think that people

2498
01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:43,320
should have an easier path to

2499
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:44,060
get in.

2500
01:19:44,060 --> 01:19:46,220
But if you have an easier path

2501
01:19:46,220 --> 01:19:48,560
to get in, either for asylum or

2502
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,080
legit, asylum, temporary work

2503
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,420
visa, or legit just becoming a

2504
01:19:53,420 --> 01:19:54,400
citizen.

2505
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:56,590
If you have easier ways to get

2506
01:19:56,590 --> 01:19:58,910
in, then you have less reason

2507
01:19:58,910 --> 01:20:00,600
to do it illegally.

2508
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:01,300
Yeah.

2509
01:20:01,980 --> 01:20:02,180
Yeah.

2510
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,260
So, yeah.

2511
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:04,640
So, this was a really weird

2512
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:05,840
conversation about our

2513
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,200
hypothetical country.

2514
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,870
If you'd like to start a

2515
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:11,260
hypothetical country with us,

2516
01:20:11,260 --> 01:20:13,510
please email us at 

2517
01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:15,280
feedback@nontopical.com.

2518
01:20:15,660 --> 01:20:17,120
Or, you know, give us some

2519
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,320
money to start the hypothetical

2520
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,200
country.

2521
01:20:20,620 --> 01:20:25,130
You can do this by going to

2522
01:20:25,130 --> 01:20:27,980
https://ko-fi.com/nontopical .

2523
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,310
And we believe in what's known

2524
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:32,130
as value for value, which means

2525
01:20:32,130 --> 01:20:33,740
if you were entertained or if

2526
01:20:33,740 --> 01:20:35,410
you were angered, it doesn't

2527
01:20:35,410 --> 01:20:36,780
matter either one.

2528
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:38,100
But if you got some level of

2529
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:39,420
value, if you like, hate

2530
01:20:39,420 --> 01:20:41,070
listening to things, then show

2531
01:20:41,070 --> 01:20:42,540
us equal value in return.

2532
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:43,320
It could be a dollar.

2533
01:20:43,460 --> 01:20:44,000
It could be $10.

2534
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:45,720
It could be whatever amount you

2535
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:46,220
want.

2536
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:47,720
And if you want to make funny

2537
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,080
numbers, we like the funny

2538
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:50,080
numbers, too.

2539
01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:53,350
Other than that, this has been

2540
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:54,980
one of our longest episodes

2541
01:20:54,980 --> 01:20:55,540
ever.

2542
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:57,330
I don't know if I'll cut it

2543
01:20:57,330 --> 01:20:58,320
down or not.

2544
01:20:58,580 --> 01:20:59,850
But, yeah, let us know what you

2545
01:20:59,850 --> 01:21:01,310
think about our hypothetical

2546
01:21:01,310 --> 01:21:02,000
country.

2547
01:21:02,380 --> 01:21:03,660
And you can also do this

2548
01:21:03,660 --> 01:21:05,700
through the federated Mastodon

2549
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:08,180
and other federated systems.

2550
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,340
Just look for 

2551
01:21:10,340 --> 01:21:12,060
@nontopical@nontopical.com

2552
01:21:12,820 --> 01:21:14,220
That's how they have user IDs

2553
01:21:14,220 --> 01:21:15,780
in the Fediverse.

2554
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:17,100
Yay.

2555
01:21:17,380 --> 01:21:17,620
Yay.

2556
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:18,860
All right, everybody.

2557
01:21:18,860 --> 01:21:20,510
Well, thank you for listening

2558
01:21:20,510 --> 01:21:22,190
and, yeah, let us know what you

2559
01:21:22,190 --> 01:21:22,800
think.

2560
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:23,720
Bye.

2561
01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:24,460
Bye.