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we're doing another car

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recording who knows if we'll

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use any of this or not but

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what a week what a week chihuah

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ua what chihuahua chihuahua

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maybe yes

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yes that looked like a chihuah

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ua so the last time we were

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together i i did a long screed

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about

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packing up and moving and as of

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the recording today literally

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today the move is ending the

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last

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of the stuff is in the car as i

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am speaking i have turned in

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the keys i have turned in my

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parking pass

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and i spent i have to tell you

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sir i spent probably around 36

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hours of cleaning in that

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apartment

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and it was awful all right kit

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so that's all i got right now

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how about you what what you

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want to talk

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about and what's going on in

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the life of kit um work and and

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and games game that's it that's

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it work

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you got a job no oh oh school

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work and work for other stuff

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like mods and art mods and art

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okay

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nice so one of the things that

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's coming up for us that i'm i'm

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always excited about to be

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perfectly

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honest is we have our annual

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vacation coming up me this is

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our third annual vacation my

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two best

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friends in the world that i've

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known since my first job at a

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grocery store well one of them

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pays to rent out a place in

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north carolina and this will be

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our third year doing this

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and we all get together and we

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have a great time so it's my

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two friends josh and tom and

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their families

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and then kit and i we get

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together we watch movies we

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play games we have a lot of fun

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but one of the things that we

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last year had been talked about

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and this year has been talked

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about

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is the idea of doing some type

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of tabletop campaign some sort

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of dnd-esque type of thing

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and as of today i've actually

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ordered the 2024 edition of the

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full three book set of dnd now

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i do not

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need the dm book and the beast

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book but but kit actually has

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played dnd so he already knows

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how to

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play so i'm gonna keep the

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player book and i'm giving him

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the two dm related guides

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my question to you sir is what

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thoughts first of all what

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thoughts do you have about

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tabletop gaming in

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general and what do you find

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appealing about it i i like the

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character stuff and doodling

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them okay so

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you liked the doodle like you

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like getting to draw what your

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character looked like yeah

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do you feel like anything kind

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of draws you into the game at

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all like if you had to choose

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something

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that kind of are there any

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specific moments you remember

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where it was like oh my gosh

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this is like

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getting real i like making

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other people feel it's funny

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okay example uh i mean

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currently the character

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that i'm playing had his entire

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hometown burnt to the ground

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and a bunch of his people mass

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acred and

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i'm playing the game at all

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right so for you it's almost

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about telling the story me

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which makes you an ideal

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dungeon master candidate as

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long as you're not making it

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all about you you're making it

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all about the

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the story i also sense that you

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like correct me if i'm wrong

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you like making moments

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or writing things for your

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character or doing things that

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are designed to drive a

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reaction from others yeah

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i i also just tend to do i i

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don't always do the thing that

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would be most efficient i just

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do

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thing that would be cool and

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make sense for character so

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rather than necessarily doing

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the most

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expedient or logical thing you

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prefer to think to yourself

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okay what would put like an exc

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lamation point

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on this moment or is that

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really what my character do

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would my character do the most

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like logical thing or

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would my character do something

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different yeah and that's

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actually a good mark of a

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storyteller

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except except for when i have

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like barely any help then i'm

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then i then i just kind of have

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to heal

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i kind of have to heal wait i

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have five hit points left or

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health points left i mean i got

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down to one at

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one point do you know what i'm

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gonna do recklessly run forward

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recklessly charge in

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i i think that's a really

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unique take though because and

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what i mean by it it shows

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storytelling but

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character the fact that you're

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involved with your character

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that you're trying to be as in

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tune with your

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character as possible but also

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trying to be in tune with the

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group like how can i with these

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people

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i think you told me a story i'm

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trying to remember like where

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you were fighting a creature in

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a

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campaign and like you dove into

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the creature's mouth or

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something i i know you did

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something crazy

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yeah something along those

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lines and everybody thought you

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were nuts

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so i think we like these types

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of games for slightly different

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reasons but also the same

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reason in

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that it boils down to character

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and story i like being sucked

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into the story and getting that

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emotional drive out of it like

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where it's like oh wow like we

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're surrounded by zombies or we

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're surrounded by

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uh orcs or whatever versus you

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're more like huh this is an

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interesting situation how can i

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fuck with people based on this

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situation but not just that but

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also you like being the storyt

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eller

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we're just making the stories

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from the characters but that's

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still an aspect of storytelling

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uh so we we like it for

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different reasons but similar

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reasons and we both approach it

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from a different

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perspective we've established

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our enjoyment of tabletop games

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uh to a certain extent now

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what type of character do you

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prefer to play is there or do

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you have you played multiple

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like is there a

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favorite species or class that

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you like or i usually just pick

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the animal ones like what uh

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like like

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dragonborn now i have only

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played three characters why are

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you asking i've i've only

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played two characters

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well i mean technically i've

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played uh six characters but uh

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only three of them were dnd

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but so you like being like a

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half human half something else

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well i mean that's not

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technically

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what it's called but yeah i

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guess yeah so like a dragonborn

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is part dragon part something

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else yeah yeah

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you've never played morrowind

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or um elder scrolls games but

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the phrase khajiit has no love

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for you

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just uh just uh popped in my

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head because the khajiit are um

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cat people and we were talking

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about

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like what character i might

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want to play if we're doing

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this campaign and i figured out

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there were

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there were basically i have two

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character archetypes that i i

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want to go with but one of them

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would require

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much more research on my part

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to be able to play it authent

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ically so i'm not going to do

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that one

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but i think if we're going to

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do a summer campaign the

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character i'm thinking of is

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kind of modeled after the

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animated version of beauty and

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the beast specifically gaston

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now he won't be

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called gaston he's not going to

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be purely gaston i'm saying

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based loosely on gaston now

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this is going to be a

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a more stereotypical character

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because that's just how i want

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to play it uh like most of the

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time the stereotype for a tank

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or barbarian type character is

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that they ain't that bright and

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they're all they're all brawn

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no brain

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there's a slight there's a

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slight twist on that with this

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character in that all brawn no

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brain but is so arrogant that

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they don't realize they have no

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brain

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and also though uh and you i

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credit you for this well yeah

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this this barbarian character

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has been in great battles and

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has defeated things but usually

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it's pretty much everyone else

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that did the heavy lifting and

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he was actually afraid and

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tried to like hide in the back

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so whenever the things get

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really tough he will try to we

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asel his way out of it and so

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like in the bar or the tavern

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he'll be telling these grand

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stories about like severing the

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head of this dragon and whatnot

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and yeah he severed the head of

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the dragon after like the back

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of the knees of the dragon had

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already been cut and it was

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like laying on the ground and

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its wings had been cut off you

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know like

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so and there's a reason i'm

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choosing to do a character like

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that is it's a little bit

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easier to play from a character

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standpoint it's not that

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complex there's not that much

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going on interiorly although

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there's enough where the dm

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could like actually have an arc

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for the character and help the

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character to grow but there's

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not so much depth there that i

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really have to dig deep from an

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an acting perspective or

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character perspective because

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it'll be if if this works out

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for the trip it'll be my first

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time playing a game like this

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in a very long time and so i'd

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rather go simple it makes it

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easier like arrogant and let me

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put it this way arrogant slash

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bad guy is actually fun to play

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there's a reason why actors

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actually love playing

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playing bad guys except my bad

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guys except my bad guy is not

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going to truly be a bad guy

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because he's part of the party

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but still is that stereotypical

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arrogance and this is i i can't

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reveal this you and i already

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talked about this but i already

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have a plan for the kind of

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opening scene

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which is usually now it's it's

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stereotypical it's it's

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stereotypical it happens at a

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pub all the characters come

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together i will tell you it's

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not going to be at a pub it won

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't be at a pub but it'll be

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somewhere there has to be a

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place where the characters meet

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and get the job that's so it

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might not be a pub will there

335
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be alcohol at this place i mean

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you'll be able to find it

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around

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okay well regardless point

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being i have a plan in some way

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shape or form of how i'm going

341
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to introduce my character

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and it has a decent twist to it

343
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but one of my friends at least

344
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listens to this podcast so i'm

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not going to spoil it

346
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but just truly and i can adapt

347
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it a little bit if need be

348
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based upon the scenario but the

349
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other character i would love to

350
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play and i've heard of other

351
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people doing this but i i think

352
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that i would love to do this

353
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and this is where it would take

354
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time to research because i

355
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would really want to know this

356
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character inside and out as

357
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much as possible

358
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is i want to be deadpool yeah

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not not like an archetype of

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deadpool not a character like

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deadpool

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i want the character sheet to

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read wade wilson i want i want

364
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the backstory to be that like

365
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some marvel

366
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alternative universe bullshit

367
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happened and deadpool got

368
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sucked into it in the mult

369
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iverse and now he's he's like

370
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fucking stuck in this medieval

371
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fantasy world like his clothing

372
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was changed to like fit the

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time period

374
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his healing factor has been

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changed to better fit like the

376
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the world uh and all of that

377
00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,120
but he still is 100% deadpool

378
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and the best part about that is

379
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unlike most now i won't say all

380
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there are other comic book

381
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characters like this

382
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but unlike most comic book

383
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characters deadpool knows he's

384
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a comic book character

385
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um and he

386
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totally

387
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will break the fourth wall

388
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and in most cases in dnd

389
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the whole point is you're doing

390
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things for the most part in

391
00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:27,380
character unless you have to

392
00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:28,320
ask the dm like

393
00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,300
hey so in regards to the

394
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mechanics of this how do we do

395
00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,740
this or something

396
00:15:32,740 --> 00:15:34,240
but for the most part

397
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everything you're doing is in

398
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character it's your character

399
00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:38,940
doing stuff

400
00:15:38,940 --> 00:15:40,910
and usually a good dm gives you

401
00:15:40,910 --> 00:15:42,720
extra points for demonstrating

402
00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,630
that you're doing things in

403
00:15:44,630 --> 00:15:45,420
character

404
00:15:45,420 --> 00:15:49,870
but the thing i like about dead

405
00:15:49,870 --> 00:15:50,660
pool is

406
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deadpool would know he's a

407
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character

408
00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:59,300
and so if some bullshit happens

409
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like the dm has just done

410
00:16:01,630 --> 00:16:04,450
something for quote unquote

411
00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:05,820
game balance

412
00:16:05,820 --> 00:16:07,910
as happens sometimes i'm just

413
00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:09,920
gonna throw out this thing to

414
00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,760
fuck with the entire team

415
00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,260
because i can

416
00:16:13,260 --> 00:16:15,860
deadpool can turn

417
00:16:15,860 --> 00:16:17,840
look the dm in the eye and be

418
00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:18,220
like

419
00:16:18,220 --> 00:16:19,380
man

420
00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:22,440
the dm's a fucking asshole aren

421
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:22,840
't they

422
00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,760
you know like they can just

423
00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,380
and and everyone else is like

424
00:16:26,380 --> 00:16:28,000
what the hell are you talking

425
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,440
about

426
00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,610
what is a dm don't worry about

427
00:16:30,610 --> 00:16:30,760
it

428
00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,970
but it it's great because it

429
00:16:34,970 --> 00:16:37,100
lets you stay in character

430
00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:39,070
while at the same time being

431
00:16:39,070 --> 00:16:40,810
able to do things that would be

432
00:16:40,810 --> 00:16:42,000
out of character

433
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,770
it's amazing because everyone

434
00:16:43,770 --> 00:16:45,440
else just thinks you're nuts

435
00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,920
in character i'm saying

436
00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,630
everybody around the table

437
00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:50,320
doesn't think you're nuts

438
00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,320
but i'm saying all of the

439
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,700
characters think you're nuts so

440
00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:53,280
it's great

441
00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,890
i i would love to be able to do

442
00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:55,820
that but like i said

443
00:16:55,820 --> 00:16:57,360
lots of research because as

444
00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,050
much as people think that dead

445
00:16:59,050 --> 00:17:00,620
pool is a simple character

446
00:17:00,620 --> 00:17:03,130
he's really not there's a lot

447
00:17:03,130 --> 00:17:04,780
of complexity there

448
00:17:04,780 --> 00:17:10,480
so anyway yeah

449
00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,000
so that's my ideas from a

450
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,580
character perspective

451
00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:17,930
i would say from a storytelling

452
00:17:17,930 --> 00:17:18,960
perspective

453
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,090
now obviously don't no spoilers

454
00:17:22,090 --> 00:17:24,920
in this particular campaign

455
00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,300
you don't have to share any

456
00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:27,820
ideas that you have about the

457
00:17:27,820 --> 00:17:29,060
the ideas that you're

458
00:17:29,060 --> 00:17:31,290
coming up with for this story

459
00:17:31,290 --> 00:17:31,590
but

460
00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:36,760
what sorts of things

461
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,540
do you like

462
00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:42,240
when it comes to

463
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,520
the idea of

464
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,480
the storytelling

465
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,480
like what are

466
00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,160
so i've talked about like from

467
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,640
a character perspective

468
00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,350
what it is that like i i would

469
00:17:52,350 --> 00:17:53,420
like to play

470
00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:54,480
but

471
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,570
what type of dm do you want to

472
00:17:57,570 --> 00:17:58,560
try to be

473
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,220
what do you mean

474
00:18:00,220 --> 00:18:00,220
what do you mean

475
00:18:00,220 --> 00:18:02,970
okay i i need more definition

476
00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:05,180
for your question here

477
00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:06,610
what do you mean by what do you

478
00:18:06,610 --> 00:18:06,900
mean

479
00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:09,890
what do you mean by what type

480
00:18:09,890 --> 00:18:10,440
of dm

481
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,060
so

482
00:18:11,060 --> 00:18:17,260
how do you want to approach

483
00:18:17,260 --> 00:18:19,690
how do you want to approach

484
00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:22,460
storytelling do you want to be

485
00:18:22,460 --> 00:18:25,200
more hands-on and do like how

486
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,200
let me put it this way how do

487
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,490
you want your players to walk

488
00:18:31,490 --> 00:18:34,770
away um feeling about you as a

489
00:18:34,770 --> 00:18:38,230
storyteller and as a leader of

490
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:41,920
the campaign however they want

491
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,560
what that's a good answer but

492
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,990
it's not that's actually a

493
00:18:46,990 --> 00:18:49,740
great answer i just don't know

494
00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:52,390
how to react to that because i

495
00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:55,940
'm like that's it there's gotta

496
00:18:55,940 --> 00:18:58,330
be more he knows what i'm

497
00:18:58,330 --> 00:19:01,010
referring to when i say it that

498
00:19:01,010 --> 00:19:03,570
way too there's gotta be more

499
00:19:03,570 --> 00:19:05,780
no that's my backstory

500
00:19:05,780 --> 00:19:07,470
oh i thought you were referring

501
00:19:07,470 --> 00:19:08,970
to something else oh what do

502
00:19:08,970 --> 00:19:10,520
you think i was referring to i

503
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,210
don't know just something else

504
00:19:12,210 --> 00:19:13,220
oh interesting

505
00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:15,310
i feel like that's from

506
00:19:15,310 --> 00:19:18,200
something but i don't know what

507
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,430
i i literally just told you i

508
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:22,980
know but it's probably from

509
00:19:22,980 --> 00:19:24,330
other things yeah it's probably

510
00:19:24,330 --> 00:19:25,320
from other things too

511
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,650
but so you don't have any sense

512
00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:28,260
of like

513
00:19:28,260 --> 00:19:30,710
do you want to be a dm that's

514
00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:33,610
like more hands-on or like more

515
00:19:33,610 --> 00:19:36,320
like let the players do their

516
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,130
own thing and kind of just jump

517
00:19:39,130 --> 00:19:41,640
in when necessary like

518
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,600
there's there's a happy medium

519
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,880
somewhere and

520
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,570
do you do you want to be liking

521
00:19:48,570 --> 00:19:51,360
what i would call like an actor

522
00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:53,700
dm where like you're you're

523
00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:54,950
doing different voices for

524
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:56,350
characters or do you want like

525
00:19:56,350 --> 00:19:59,020
to just describe the npcs so to

526
00:19:59,020 --> 00:19:59,590
speak

527
00:19:59,590 --> 00:20:01,190
i mean i'll try to do acting

528
00:20:01,190 --> 00:20:03,080
for the characters i'm not very

529
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,670
good at it well i'm not even

530
00:20:04,670 --> 00:20:05,960
saying you have to

531
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,940
because you also don't want to

532
00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:09,690
make the game all about you

533
00:20:09,690 --> 00:20:11,940
either i mean yeah most of it's

534
00:20:11,940 --> 00:20:13,260
just going to be

535
00:20:13,260 --> 00:20:15,450
the players for the most part i

536
00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:17,550
think and do you but i'm going

537
00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:19,340
to be describing a lot of

538
00:20:19,340 --> 00:20:22,350
location details oh geez

539
00:20:22,350 --> 00:20:26,810
that'll be interesting location

540
00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:30,310
location location now on a

541
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:33,560
scale of one

542
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:39,440
two ten owlbears attacking at

543
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,500
random where do you stand on

544
00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:47,890
making the lives of your the in

545
00:20:47,890 --> 00:20:51,420
-game characters a living hell

546
00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:52,330
from time to time

547
00:20:52,330 --> 00:20:54,410
i mean it's going to build up

548
00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:56,570
mostly it's going to be a nice

549
00:20:56,570 --> 00:20:58,900
little slope it's gonna okay so

550
00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:00,980
in general you like having a

551
00:21:00,980 --> 00:21:03,320
natural progression how do you

552
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,480
feel about like the twists i

553
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,980
mean i haven't got don't spoil

554
00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:10,560
anything but i'm saying like in

555
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,310
general as a storyteller do you

556
00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:15,480
feel like it's best to go a b c

557
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,680
d like in linear order or do

558
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,180
you like having like oh well we

559
00:21:20,180 --> 00:21:22,320
thought we were gonna do

560
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,470
this but a surprise

561
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:27,560
motherfucker i mean i don't

562
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520
know if you'd call it oh hey

563
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,780
look a cybershruck

564
00:21:32,780 --> 00:21:35,340
oh you just cursed this this

565
00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:37,910
podcast now sir no i didn't i

566
00:21:37,910 --> 00:21:40,560
didn't say the two no no don't

567
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,900
don't say the two

568
00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,860
numbers no no no no no no we

569
00:21:43,860 --> 00:21:45,930
don't want that's something we

570
00:21:45,930 --> 00:21:47,630
'll have to talk about in a

571
00:21:47,630 --> 00:21:49,460
different recording so this

572
00:21:49,460 --> 00:21:52,400
this has gone on for all of

573
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,760
some time at this point but uh

574
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,210
yeah dnd or um pathfinder or uh

575
00:21:59,210 --> 00:22:00,400
the white wolf

576
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,440
games so hunter the reckoning

577
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,870
vampire the masquerade uh there

578
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:07,280
's another one that is for were

579
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:07,980
wolves and i can't

580
00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:10,050
remember it give it a try or

581
00:22:10,050 --> 00:22:12,490
there are free ones there's ris

582
00:22:12,490 --> 00:22:14,790
us r-i-s-u-s you can get it for

583
00:22:14,790 --> 00:22:16,680
free from drive-through rpg

584
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,610
it's literally three pages of

585
00:22:19,610 --> 00:22:22,060
rules that's it it's it's

586
00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:24,850
actually overly simple so it

587
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can be a little bit

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difficult getting going but i

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definitely recommend trying it

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out if you haven't there's

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online groups

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that you can join sometimes

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there are local like we have a

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local place called the portal

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that is a gaming

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store that also has play nights

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so there's always places and

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times that you can find to

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learn these

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types of things and it's uh

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well worth it so i would

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definitely do that it's also

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really really good to

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to bring snacks to have during

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gameplay because sometimes

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these can go for hours

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neat and an ideal thing to make

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because it's quick simple and

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easy

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cheese quesadillas cheese ques

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adillas

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so have you have you tried to

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do that uh anything with path

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finder or dnd uh let us know

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feedback@nontopical.com

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00:23:18,060 --> 00:23:20,570
 also if you like

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what we're doing uh if you get

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any value of it uh out of what

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we do

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yep so uh definitely do that we

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consider ourselves value for

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value head over to ko-fi.com/nontopical

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where you can

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toss us some money but money's

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not the only thing that you

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know

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shows value you can show value

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by sharing this with your

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friends family uh leaving us

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00:23:46,270 --> 00:23:47,680
feedback or just

631
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,660
spreading the word we'd uh

632
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appreciate it all right well i

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think we've rambled long enough

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sir

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and uh we'll catch everyone

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next time bye