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so we're off to see the wizard

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kit you are now closer to 18 i

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before you were 17 now you are

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17. so so you're you're on your

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trek towards official legal

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adulthood how uh how do you

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feel me of course the same as

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he answered before he found 17.

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no but we we had some good

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times with your birthday we had

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some meals uh he actually you

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place of residence moving on

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but yeah that was a good

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is episode 25 and i have once

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again absolutely no idea what

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we're going to discuss what you

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want to talk about there's a

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social network it's a less

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popular one called next

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next door and the whole premise

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of next door is is it's based

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around your local area your

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local community and you can

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even request that they send you

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postcards that then you can

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send out to all of your

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neighbors and local people to

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get them to join

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people complaining and griping,

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conversations that I saw

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recently, and I don't go on

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there very often, I just happen

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to go on there.

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was like, oh, that seems like

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an interesting discussion. I'll

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go check it out.

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And the discussion was around

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power.

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Power? What type of power?

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Electrical power.

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Not like political power.

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Not muscular power.

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Not even horsepower.

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But electric power.

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electricity is expensive.

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But how nobody wants any power

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plants built in their town.

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plant in your backyard.

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property value.

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It affects the resale value.

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Nobody wants to see, like, a

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giant building with towers and

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all sorts of stuff.

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obviously, we have the older

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forms of fossil fuel power

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standard power plants.

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wind power, solar power.

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And nuclear power.

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Now, for those that don't know

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how power generation works,

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concept.

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It's really quite simple.

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kind of mechanical energy and

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you use it to spin a big bundle

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of wires inside of a magnetic

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field.

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Goodbye the end.

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That's it.

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commonly, you might say, well,

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why is coal necessary for that?

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the coal, and then you boil

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water with the coal by burning

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The steam moves the fan.

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The steam moves the turbine or

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the fan, which then generates

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the power.

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power, it's the same concept.

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that generates the power.

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one that's a little bit

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different in that solar panels

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absorb energy from photons and

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convert that into electricity.

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always loss in that mix.

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sunlight can be less or more

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direct.

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solar panels are angled wrong,

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they can catch birds on fire

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while they're flying.

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Because the solar panels

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themselves can act like a magn

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ifying glass and reflect the

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rays back up into a single

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focus point.

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focus point, poof.

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Yummy.

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Yummy, delicious, wild bird.

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Maybe to make solar more

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powerful, or not powerful,

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popular, what they should do is

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open up some restaurants.

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Near the big solar fields.

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advertise the birds that get

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cooked by the solar panels.

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mentioned was hydroelectric, or

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hydro, which usually involves

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damming up a large waterway.

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the turbines and spins them.

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So, that's how power works,

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ladies and gentlemen.

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Hey, what about the nuclear

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Oh, sorry, we'll touch on that.

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of nuclear material that splits

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in a process called fission.

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work, except for fusion bombs.

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ally operated off of fission,

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which means you're splitting

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atoms apart.

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generates a lot of energy,

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which then boils water, which

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then turns into steam, which

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then turns the turbines.

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electrical systems that we use

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for electric generation.

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boil the water?

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use somebody pedaling on a bike

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Like, power generation, as we

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understand it at this point,

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until we discover some kind of

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zero-point energy or free

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energy, involves spinning a

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turbine using mechanical means,

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first of all, we need a lot

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more of it.

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air-conditioned.

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which takes up water, too.

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redundant backup systems,

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because the last thing you want

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to do is to have your major

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website go down because the

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power failure.

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massive and take a lot of

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electricity, but we also have

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just an increasing demand for

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electricity in general.

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devices that require

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electricity, such as, you know,

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you go to the store.

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registers anymore.

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It's all electrical.

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different devices, like

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pocket that you're listening to

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this on, or including the

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computer screen that you're

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listening to this through.

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electricity.

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society.

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also as a society, is certain

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methods of generating

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electricity are cleaner than

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other methods of generating

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electricity.

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gas are not viewed positively

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as people treat that as, well,

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it's burning carbon into the

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dioxide, which then increases

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the greenhouse effect and

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temperature changes that are

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going on, in theory.

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But, they're also the cheapest

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and most effective ways of

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producing electricity, aside

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from nuclear.

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because they know nuclear will

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bloom.

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There we go.

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So, sir, can you think of any

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one or two nuclear disasters in

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, I don't know, the past hundred

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years that come to mind?

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No, seriously.

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Name one.

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Like nuclear bomb, or just...

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No, no, no.

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Nuclear power related disasters

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I don't know.

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Well, the big ones.

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There's really three that come

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to mind.

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I'm not saying that there aren

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't other ones.

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But there are three that come

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to mind.

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Chernobyl.

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Chernobyl.

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That's what I was thinking.

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I wasn't sure, though.

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Chernobyl was the biggest one.

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The Chernobyl nuclear facility

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melted down, and they had put a

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giant concrete bunker over the

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entire thing.

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And it affected plants.

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It affected animals.

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Like, it made the area unl

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ivable.

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And even now, scientists go

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back into the zone around that

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nuclear disaster site and find

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ways that the nuclear radiation

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has mutated or changed life

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there.

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Do we have rabbits walking on

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two legs and talking yet?

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Nope.

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Uh-oh.

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The second one was Three Mile

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Island.

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And that took place in the

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United States, and that was

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much smaller and contained.

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I don't know if it actually

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fully melted down or not.

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And the last one in recent

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memory was Fukushima in Japan.

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And that was in part due to a

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massive earthquake off the

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shore of Japan that then made a

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giant tidal wave come in that

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smacked the power plant.

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But on top of that, it also was

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because they had regulatory

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issues that they kind of swept

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under the rug.

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Yeah.

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They kind of, you know, swept

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the, oh, this could potentially

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be an issue.

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Yeah, don't worry about it.

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That will never happen.

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That type of thing.

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Well, you know, if we ever had

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a major ocean disaster, this

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would be a major risk.

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No, that would never happen.

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No, we're never going to have a

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major ocean disaster.

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What are you talking about?

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Japan's definitely not known

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for earthquakes, typhoons, and

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giant kaiju that occasionally

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wander up out of the ocean and

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destroy entire cities.

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I'm just saying, this is a

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known phenomenon.

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So the problem with nuclear is

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that everybody's afraid of a

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meltdown.

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The reality is that, first of

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all, even with the older 1960s

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era nuclear power plant designs

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, there have been very few melt

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downs.

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But the risk of the meltdown is

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huge because if nuclear

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explosion happens, it kills

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lots of people.

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And by the way, so a nuclear

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meltdown is when the nuclear

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reaction gets out of control.

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It's when the temperature

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becomes too great for the

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cooling systems to deal with.

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And when that happens, the

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cooling system, basically the

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core, all the fuel rods start

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to go critical, meltdown.

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And it can eventually get to

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the point where so much energy

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is taking place that it blows

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up.

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And so that's a big issue.

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And so basically, inside a

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nuclear reactor, there are

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these things called control

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rods.

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And what they're designed to do

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is slow down the nuclear

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reaction and control it so that

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it's more or less energetic.

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Yeah.

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If there's not enough control

402
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rods or the control rods fail,

403
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the nuclear reaction runs out

404
00:15:17,450 --> 00:15:20,000
of control and can blow up.

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And the giant concrete building

406
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can no longer hold it.

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Now, that's what scares people

408
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about nuclear.

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But despite that, we've really

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only had three major nuclear

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power plant disasters in

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history.

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There's probably been one or

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two smaller ones.

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But nuclear is actually one of

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the safest and most energy

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efficient ways to generate

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energy.

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Yeah.

420
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And people make the presumption

421
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that, oh, well, any new nuclear

422
00:15:51,530 --> 00:15:54,310
plant is going to be subject to

423
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the risk of meltdown like the

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old ones.

425
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Well, guess what?

426
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They're not.

427
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Unless they're intentionally

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sabotaged.

429
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Right.

430
00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:05,840
Right.

431
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,660
Because modern nuclear designs

432
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use less nuclear fuel.

433
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So if the reaction ever got out

434
00:16:13,010 --> 00:16:15,210
of control, the fuel would eat

435
00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:16,910
itself before a nuclear

436
00:16:16,910 --> 00:16:19,240
reaction could ever happen.

437
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I mean.

438
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Not only that, but they also

439
00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:24,560
eat their own waste.

440
00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,070
1960s, 70s nuclear plants

441
00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:30,870
generate nuclear waste products

442
00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:31,220
.

443
00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:32,760
And the problem with that is

444
00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,240
there's only one thing you

445
00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,080
could do with nuclear waste.

446
00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,560
Dump it in New Jersey.

447
00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,450
No, really, the one thing you

448
00:16:41,450 --> 00:16:43,440
could do with nuclear waste is

449
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,340
store it in concrete bunkers

450
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until it's gotten through

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00:16:47,070 --> 00:16:49,100
enough half-lives that it's no

452
00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:50,680
longer dangerous.

453
00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,810
Well, the problem is, is that

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if that's not done properly, or

455
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somebody stumbles across one of

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those bunkers inadvertently,

457
00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:01,860
or if one of those bunkers get

458
00:17:01,860 --> 00:17:03,830
a crack in the side of their

459
00:17:03,830 --> 00:17:06,180
housings, the radiation gets

460
00:17:06,180 --> 00:17:06,740
out.

461
00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:10,020
But modern nuke designs for

462
00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:12,820
power plants would actually eat

463
00:17:12,820 --> 00:17:14,110
that waste.

464
00:17:14,110 --> 00:17:14,980
Yeah.

465
00:17:14,980 --> 00:17:16,560
So it burns the waste.

466
00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,810
It burns itself out if there's

467
00:17:18,810 --> 00:17:21,500
any risk of, you know, issues.

468
00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:24,020
But the problem is, is that

469
00:17:24,020 --> 00:17:26,460
nuclear is not popular.

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00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:27,940
Yeah.

471
00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:30,160
For example, Germany recently

472
00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,290
took all of their nuclear power

473
00:17:32,290 --> 00:17:33,680
plants offline.

474
00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,090
Why?

475
00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,320
Because nuclear is not safe.

476
00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,670
Because we need greener options

477
00:17:41,670 --> 00:17:42,060
.

478
00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:44,040
Gee, I thought, I thought, I

479
00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,950
thought radioactive stuff is

480
00:17:45,950 --> 00:17:48,180
usually represented as green.

481
00:17:48,180 --> 00:17:49,420
That's a greener option.

482
00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:51,240
Yeah.

483
00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:55,320
But I responded in that post.

484
00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,920
I said, because they were

485
00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,850
asking, you know, like, if,

486
00:17:58,850 --> 00:18:00,550
would you want a power plant

487
00:18:00,550 --> 00:18:02,290
built, like, right next to

488
00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:03,610
where you live?

489
00:18:03,610 --> 00:18:05,980
And I said, if it was a nuclear

490
00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:08,330
power plant using newer melt

491
00:18:08,330 --> 00:18:10,840
down-proof designs, I would be

492
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,380
fine with that.

493
00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,080
And even with other options, I

494
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,320
think that we may have to

495
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,240
eventually reach a point where

496
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,920
we find ways to be more self-s

497
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,520
ufficient with energy.

498
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,260
And there are people that are

499
00:18:29,260 --> 00:18:30,400
already doing this.

500
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,900
There are people that put solar

501
00:18:31,900 --> 00:18:33,260
panels on their houses.

502
00:18:33,260 --> 00:18:34,730
Now, the problem with solar,

503
00:18:34,730 --> 00:18:36,190
again, is that it's not always

504
00:18:36,190 --> 00:18:37,000
consistent.

505
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,200
And a lot of times, the way the

506
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,760
solar system's working out is

507
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,340
you're actually renting the

508
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panels.

509
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,800
You don't own them.

510
00:18:44,350 --> 00:18:47,070
So, you hire, you know, a solar

511
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company.

512
00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:48,850
They come in.

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They evaluate your roof.

514
00:18:50,260 --> 00:18:51,720
They put the right solar panels

515
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on.

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And they say, we're going to

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charge you this amount for your

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electricity.

519
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And they lock you in a specific

520
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rate.

521
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Because that's how you're

522
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,550
paying them back for putting

523
00:19:02,550 --> 00:19:04,680
the solar panels on your house.

524
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,580
Forever and ever and ever.

525
00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:08,710
It's usually like a 10-year

526
00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:09,920
agreement or a 5-year agreement

527
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:10,560
, whatever.

528
00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,540
That's when your solar panels

529
00:19:12,540 --> 00:19:14,300
inconveniently break.

530
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,570
And then you've got to upgrade

531
00:19:15,570 --> 00:19:15,980
them.

532
00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:17,970
At which point, then, they'll

533
00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:20,260
be like, hey, we'll upgrade it.

534
00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:21,560
You just have to re-sign the

535
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,080
contract.

536
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,000
So, that's one way to do it.

537
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,140
The other way is to actually

538
00:19:25,140 --> 00:19:27,080
pay to have the solar done

539
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,200
yourself.

540
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,760
And then the cool thing about

541
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,310
it is you can either take that

542
00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:33,000
solar energy, store it in a lot

543
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,060
of batteries.

544
00:19:34,060 --> 00:19:35,240
And then when you lose power,

545
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,420
you'll actually be able to run

546
00:19:36,420 --> 00:19:37,660
power off the batteries.

547
00:19:37,660 --> 00:19:39,640
Or you can work in parallel

548
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,780
with the electric company.

549
00:19:42,580 --> 00:19:44,560
Where, as you're producing

550
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,540
electricity, if you produce

551
00:19:46,540 --> 00:19:48,720
more than you use, the electric

552
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,720
company buys it from you.

553
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,970
Those are some ways to start to

554
00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:54,760
think about energy.

555
00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:56,950
Also, if you have a house that

556
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:58,490
's on a windier plane of

557
00:19:58,490 --> 00:20:00,610
existence, so if you live in an

558
00:20:00,610 --> 00:20:02,420
area where there's a lot of

559
00:20:02,420 --> 00:20:04,310
wind, you can set up a small

560
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:06,260
electrical windmill.

561
00:20:06,260 --> 00:20:08,290
That will not power everything

562
00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:09,990
all the time because if the

563
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:11,760
wind dies, you'll not have

564
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,520
power.

565
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,910
Unless you've been storing that

566
00:20:13,910 --> 00:20:15,260
power in a battery, again.

567
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,890
And those batteries are very

568
00:20:17,890 --> 00:20:18,240
big.

569
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,850
And they cost money.

570
00:20:19,850 --> 00:20:21,020
Money.

571
00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:22,040
I don't know.

572
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,710
I think the whole situation

573
00:20:23,710 --> 00:20:25,510
with power, though, is that

574
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:27,180
because everybody wants to

575
00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:28,990
think about the green options

576
00:20:28,990 --> 00:20:30,900
of solar and of wind power.

577
00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:32,900
They don't think about hydro

578
00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:34,280
electric power.

579
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,500
Not as much.

580
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,700
And the reason for that is that

581
00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:39,330
you have to dam up a waterway

582
00:20:39,330 --> 00:20:40,220
to do that.

583
00:20:40,220 --> 00:20:41,730
And if you have to dam up a

584
00:20:41,730 --> 00:20:43,710
waterway, that can impact the

585
00:20:43,710 --> 00:20:45,690
environment around that water

586
00:20:45,690 --> 00:20:46,220
way.

587
00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:48,200
That can impact, you know,

588
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,020
wildlife.

589
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,240
And there's also only so many

590
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,490
waterways where the cost-to-

591
00:20:54,490 --> 00:20:57,000
benefit ratio is high enough.

592
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,450
You need a lot of water that is

593
00:20:59,450 --> 00:21:02,110
consistently flowing in order

594
00:21:02,110 --> 00:21:04,680
to ensure that you're going to

595
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,940
get the type of energy that

596
00:21:06,940 --> 00:21:09,730
makes building and maintaining

597
00:21:09,730 --> 00:21:12,180
a giant dam worthwhile.

598
00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:13,680
How about Niagara Falls?

599
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,320
Well, there's a story behind

600
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,350
Niagara Falls.

601
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,350
Niagara Falls is not actually a

602
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:21,200
natural fall anymore.

603
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,240
They can turn it off.

604
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,350
You think I'm lying.

605
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:26,900
Go online and Google it.

606
00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:28,600
There are times when Niagara

607
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,160
Falls gets turned off.

608
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,250
So, actually, I think that

609
00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:32,390
might be because it's using it

610
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:32,940
for power.

611
00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:34,910
I'm not 100% sure they can turn

612
00:21:34,910 --> 00:21:36,420
Niagara Falls on and off, which

613
00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:37,320
is kind of sad.

614
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,320
There was this once beautiful

615
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,560
natural waterfall, and they dam

616
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,560
med it up, and they could turn

617
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,660
it on and off.

618
00:21:44,660 --> 00:21:46,020
Magical.

619
00:21:46,590 --> 00:21:48,260
The magic of nature.

620
00:21:48,260 --> 00:21:49,020
Wow.

621
00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:51,870
The biggest issue is not going

622
00:21:51,870 --> 00:21:54,620
to be addressed by the method

623
00:21:54,620 --> 00:21:58,000
we use to generate electricity.

624
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,200
Don't get me wrong.

625
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,170
Coal and natural gas are easier

626
00:22:02,170 --> 00:22:04,060
, and they can pollute more than

627
00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:05,520
the other methods.

628
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,610
But the other methods, except

629
00:22:07,610 --> 00:22:09,780
for nuclear, are not always the

630
00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:11,710
most sustainable and even in

631
00:22:11,710 --> 00:22:13,680
their power generation.

632
00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:16,500
In my personal opinion, the

633
00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:19,050
best option for generating more

634
00:22:19,050 --> 00:22:21,090
power is newer nuclear plant

635
00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:22,040
designs.

636
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,580
But that's my personal unin

637
00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:24,700
formed opinion.

638
00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:27,300
However, that doesn't solve the

639
00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:28,280
problem.

640
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,360
The problem is not energy

641
00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:31,240
generation.

642
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,080
The problem is energy usage.

643
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,840
What we need to do is start

644
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,620
unplugging.

645
00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:42,300
We need to figure out ways to

646
00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:44,880
use less energy.

647
00:22:45,660 --> 00:22:47,920
Which might mean, dare I say it

648
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,120
, not being connected to your

649
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,130
phone all day and needing to

650
00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:54,600
charge it on a regular basis.

651
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,940
No, but you need the phone.

652
00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:57,940
That's small.

653
00:22:57,940 --> 00:23:01,180
But it's a small amount.

654
00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:02,790
But if you imagine like

655
00:23:02,790 --> 00:23:05,300
everybody doing it, it adds up.

656
00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:08,320
But we need the phone.

657
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,290
Remembering to turn off lights

658
00:23:10,290 --> 00:23:11,620
when you leave the house.

659
00:23:11,620 --> 00:23:14,340
Which I only occasionally have

660
00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:15,720
issues with.

661
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,980
Hmm, hmm, hmm.

662
00:23:17,980 --> 00:23:19,320
I try to be good with it.

663
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,120
Sometimes I forget.

664
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:21,580
Sometimes I intentionally leave

665
00:23:21,580 --> 00:23:22,820
the lights on because I know I

666
00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:23,990
'm going to be back in 10

667
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:24,620
minutes.

668
00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:27,220
Those 10 minutes are precious.

669
00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:28,660
How could you waste them?

670
00:23:28,660 --> 00:23:30,410
But until we figure out better

671
00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:32,090
energy sources that are less

672
00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:33,420
harmful overall to the

673
00:23:33,420 --> 00:23:35,580
environment and have less risk.

674
00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:37,360
And also that won't nuke birds

675
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,300
as they're flying overhead.

676
00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:41,280
We're in a situation where we

677
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,000
really need to figure out

678
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,820
better ways of generating

679
00:23:44,820 --> 00:23:46,060
electricity.

680
00:23:46,060 --> 00:23:49,110
Or if the alien technology is

681
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:50,060
real.

682
00:23:50,060 --> 00:23:52,220
We need to release that to the

683
00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:53,040
masses.

684
00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:54,960
Which of course would

685
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,970
immediately disrupt all of the

686
00:23:56,970 --> 00:23:58,500
energy industries.

687
00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,510
And any companies associated

688
00:24:00,510 --> 00:24:02,800
with those energy industries.

689
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,860
So oil companies.

690
00:24:05,860 --> 00:24:08,760
But also the companies they sub

691
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,940
contract to to make equipment.

692
00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:14,580
The companies that they subcont

693
00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:16,640
ract to to find the oil.

694
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,290
You see, people don't think

695
00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:19,160
about that.

696
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,820
So even if there is an energy

697
00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:23,840
source that is infinite.

698
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,820
Which, I mean, who knows.

699
00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:30,940
Chances are, it would

700
00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:34,400
absolutely destroy the economy.

701
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,600
Meh.

702
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,630
Because the oil and gas

703
00:24:37,630 --> 00:24:39,870
companies would be out of

704
00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:43,480
business within 5 to 10 years.

705
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,250
And then things pop up our

706
00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:47,400
economy something fierce.

707
00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:48,220
Meh.

708
00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:48,300
Meh.

709
00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:50,850
So yeah, this was a mostly me

710
00:24:50,850 --> 00:24:52,720
talking episode.

711
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,500
Meh.

712
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:55,220
About energy.

713
00:24:55,220 --> 00:24:57,220
Because we initially had

714
00:24:57,220 --> 00:24:59,040
started talking about

715
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,320
government.

716
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,550
And that discussion was not

717
00:25:03,550 --> 00:25:05,280
going well.

718
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,060
So I don't know.

719
00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:07,180
What do you think about energy

720
00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:07,840
stuff, sir?

721
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,750
Do you have any additional

722
00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:09,260
thoughts?

723
00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:10,940
No.

724
00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:12,380
Okay.

725
00:25:12,380 --> 00:25:16,040
Thank you for listening.

726
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,750
If this was at all enjoyable to

727
00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:20,900
you, please let us know

728
00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:24,160
feedback at nontopical.com.

729
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,140
And if you enjoyed this or any

730
00:25:26,140 --> 00:25:27,890
of our other episodes, we

731
00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:29,680
believe in what's known as

732
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,120
value for value.

733
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,240
Which means if you get value

734
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,440
out of what we're doing.

735
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,440
Please go some value in return.

736
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,830
I couldn't hear you because of

737
00:25:38,830 --> 00:25:40,520
that police call.

738
00:25:41,860 --> 00:25:42,970
But I'm going to presume my

739
00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:44,240
microphone picked it up.

740
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,670
I presume that he says show

741
00:25:45,670 --> 00:25:46,760
value in return.

742
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,010
But that said, value can be a

743
00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:50,400
lot of things.

744
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,560
It could be sharing the show.

745
00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:54,490
It could be commenting on the

746
00:25:54,490 --> 00:25:56,100
show, sending us an email.

747
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:58,180
Or if you want to give us money

748
00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:00,450
so we can have some delicious,

749
00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:01,840
tasty...

750
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,120
Cheese quesadillas.

751
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:03,520
Yes.

752
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,770
If you want to enable our

753
00:26:05,770 --> 00:26:08,910
cheese quesadilla addictions,

754
00:26:08,910 --> 00:26:11,600
then the place to do that is ko

755
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,940
-fi.com slash non-topical.

756
00:26:15,580 --> 00:26:16,930
We definitely would appreciate

757
00:26:16,930 --> 00:26:17,300
that.

758
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,510
Because, as you know, it takes

759
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:21,500
time and energy and effort to

760
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,480
produce a show like this.

761
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,640
I think that about wraps it up

762
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,620
for this episode, episode 25.

763
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:30,260
Our next episode, sir, is

764
00:26:30,260 --> 00:26:31,100
exciting.

765
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:32,780
Oh, boy.

766
00:26:32,780 --> 00:26:33,780
What?

767
00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:35,060
Oh, boy.

768
00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:35,420
Yeah.

769
00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:38,920
Our next episode is episode 26.

770
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,500
And given that we only release

771
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:43,800
episodes once every other week,

772
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,780
you know what that means.

773
00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:48,980
That's our one-year episode.

774
00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:50,760
Our one-year anniversary.

775
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,740
So I'm looking forward to that.

776
00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:55,800
I'm thinking that we might do a

777
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,880
little bit of a retrospective

778
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,860
as to how this all started and

779
00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:01,930
where it's been going and what

780
00:27:01,930 --> 00:27:03,570
it may or may not be in the

781
00:27:03,570 --> 00:27:04,540
future.

782
00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:06,060
We don't know.

783
00:27:06,060 --> 00:27:07,500
I don't know.

784
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,500
So you'll have to find that

785
00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:10,260
next time.

786
00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:12,400
So until then, next time, thank

787
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,840
you for listening.

788
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,980
And we'll catch you then.

789
00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:17,860
Bye.