Breaking news. What'd you say?
Breaking news. Breaking news.
What's the breaking news?
What is the breaking news? End
of the world. Coming soon. Say
somewhat reliable sources.
I mean, that's nothing new.
There have been somewhat
reliable sources and then
multiple not reliable sources
saying the world's going to end
soon for, wait, ever. Like, I'm
sure there was some caveman in
the past that was like, just
like, like, oh, day and
tomorrow. Or world and tomorrow.
Me feast much food tonight. And
then everybody got mad at him
the next day and like killed
him because he ate all their
food. Because the day, like,
didn't mark the end of the
world.
You know? Yeah.
So, I have something exciting
to discuss with you. This is
huge. Not that huge. Not the
huge from BattleBots.
This is our 10th episode.
Indeed.
How do you feel?
How do I feel?
Yes.
I feel using brain.
Oh.
Okay. So, you know, I think it's
an accomplishment that we've
managed to do 10 of these
things.
Considering that we didn't even
get one of them out when we
tried to do this sitting in my
room.
Yeah.
Although, I did re-listen to
that conversation the other day.
Yeah.
The Palpatine's sharing agency
and the true meaning of Jedi.
Yeah.
I think, let's not spoil that.
Oh, that's what we're going to
talk about.
No, no, no. We're not going to
talk about that.
I think what we're going to do
at some point, I don't know
when, is I'm going to go back
to the original recording.
I'm going to re-edit it to only
have those two bits.
And we're going to release it
as like a bonus episode.
Yeah.
So, you hear that, listeners?
What, listeners?
We're only 10 episodes in.
And we're planning a bonus
episode.
That will not fit the normal
numbering scheme.
That said, don't expect many
bonus things from us because...
Why would we do that?
And now, we'd like to thank our
Patreon supporters.
And others.
We don't have Patreon.
And now, we'd like to thank our
other supporters.
Thank you to...
And others.
Thank you to my friend who
listens, who gave me audio...
Like, feedback about the audio.
Not audio feedback as in
something we could play on the
show.
But he said...
He gave me feedback about how
to improve the audio of the
show.
So, thank you.
And thank you for listening.
Despite...
This being what it is.
Sad and pathetic.
Look, we're not talking about
my life here.
Okay?
Idea time.
Oh, no.
We're going to take the story...
...
I don't care. Let's play with
it for a moment. Nintendo, look,
you've heard our pitches before.
We're going to offer this idea
for the low, low cost. What do
you think a good starting price,
considering they're probably
not that interesting? We haven't
said the idea yet. Well, I did
say the
idea. I mean, $100,000 or $10,000?
We'll start at $100,000. All
right, we'll keep it low,
because they're probably not
going to be initially
interested until we explain
that we're getting them
into an older market. Yeah. In
this Mario game, I think the gritty
realism and darkness is really
what sells it. I think that
having a Koopa, like King Koopa
slash Bowser,
who is actually a legit evil-ass
guy, who is willing to do
things such as de-evolve his
own people
to drive their compliance,
because then they're too stupid
to be able to fight back. Yep.
Honestly, that is not the pushover
Bowser slash King Koopa that we're
used to. Yep. That is not the,
I took over the Mushroom
Kingdom last week, and I'm
going to try to do it again
because I failed last
week. I mean, now they have
them trying to take over other
kingdoms. Right. And failing
miserably to do
that. Yeah. No, this Bowser's
already in control. He is
firmly entrenched. Is it the
human Bowser or is it Bowser
Bowser?
I don't think that matters so
much, but I think if you use
the regular Bowser, you're
going to have to...
make it more realistic. Make it
more menacing, even. Yeah. I'm
sorry, Bowser, but there's
nothing menacing about your...
I'm sorry. It just ain't
working.
I think the most important rule
is don't get Jack Black to play
him. Oh, no, no, no, no. No.
The other approach to this game
would be... I don't know. Do we
approach it like a first-person
shooter?
I want to say we want to
approach it from a first-person
perspective almost in like the
feeling of an evil... not Evil
Dead.
Resident Evil. Like where you
have to sneak around, where
everything's falling apart,
where people are getting into
fights.
Almost kind of like...
Cyberpunk or Red Dead Redemption,
but in City.
Yeah.
This has to be a gritty thing
with lots of sidelines.
It might not be necessarily
just that Mario and Luigi were
plumbers in Brooklyn.
Like maybe that's how it starts
out.
But I think that that could be
shown in a cutscene.
Yeah.
What Mario and Luigi really are...
First of all, they're fugitives.
They're a combination of
private investigators and vigilantes.
And I want to give Princess
Peach...
As opposed to Princess Daisy,
which made no sense in the
movie because they kind of flip-flopped
it.
Yeah.
I want to give Princess Peach,
to be fair, some agency in this.
So Princess Peach also wanted...
Princess Peach, who represented
the last of the monarchy prior
to...
Koopa taking over.
She's running like this
underground.
Yeah.
She's running the uprising
against Koopa.
The Toad Resistance.
She is the mastermind.
Hehehe.
And sometimes she fights.
Sometimes.
When she needs to, she fights.
But I think having this gritty
world where Mario and Luigi
have these different jobs that
they take.
Where they have to investigate
things.
And they sometimes have to draw
weapons of some kind and take
bad guys out.
Not by just jumping on their
heads.
But by actually physically
confronting them.
And maybe there's some nods to
the power-ups and things.
But I really would prefer for
it to be more of an open world
type of game.
Clearly 3D CG.
You're just talking about a
Legend of Zelda game.
No.
No, no, no.
This has to be mostly gritty
city type of stuff.
We don't want frou-frou.
Not to say that Legend of Zelda
doesn't have its darker moments
in the series.
It absolutely does.
But we don't want this
exploring in fields and all of
that stuff.
We want if you walk around the
wrong corner at the wrong time,
you can get stabbed in the back.
That's the type of feeling we
need to go with here.
And yet, we do some cut scenes
of, you know, at some point
where Mario and Luigi come back
from a case.
And they've gotten another
piece of, like, the puzzle on
how to undermine Koopa's
network.
I don't know what this makes me
think of.
What?
This makes me think of Animat
Frost.
I don't know why.
Why?
Tom Nook.
Leave him off your boss.
Yeah, we'll have to talk about
that at some point.
I thought we did.
Maybe we did.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
I can't remember if we talked
about it on the podcast.
But you could have a nod to Tom
Nook in there.
Like, just have him be, like...
Have him be in a cut scene like
Bowser's talking about.
Tom Nook.
Oh, he's small fry.
Just throw that out there.
But no, I think you have Mario
and Luigi come back to their
office after a hard day of
vigilantism and private
investigating.
At some point, Mario takes a
drag on a cigarette, blows out.
It's like, man, we should have
never left Brooklyn.
And then it cuts back to them
in Brooklyn, these maybe not uber-successful
plumbers, but they're
successful enough that they're
making decent money.
They make the mistake of going
down into the sewers to
investigate something.
Something crumbles and they
fall into this other world and
then it flashes back to the
present.
There's no...
Well, I mean, the obvious thing
would be have them fall into a
pipe.
I mean, that'd be the most
obvious thing.
That would be the obvious thing,
but we don't really need to do
that.
Yeah.
Because that's laying it on too
thick.
Remember, this is not your Jack
Black, kid-friendly Mario game.
This is gritty...
I mean, at this point, it's not
even a Mario game.
Well, it is, but it's a
different spin on the
characters.
And I also think you have cutscenes
with Bowser, where Bowser is
saying to his upper-level
minions, or even his kids, it's
a mafia.
Like, Bowser's in power.
Well, there's two people that
Bowser would look to, obviously.
There'd be...
Well, actually, technically
three groups of people.
There'd be Bowser Jr.
There'd be the Koopalings.
And then there'd be a Magi Koop
slash Kamin.
Yeah.
But you have these situations
where Bowser...
You know, has that scene where
he's like,
I want those plumbers dead, and
I want them dead now.
You know?
And...
You get into these scenarios
where...
Bowser's plans are getting thwarted
from time to time.
But there's also side missions,
too.
Like, Mario or Luigi could take
a job for...
Toadette...
Hmm.
Trying to investigate whether
or not her...
Her husband is having an affair.
You know, just...
Trying to prevent...
What...
What could we use as a drug...
In...
In Mario?
Like, what could be...
I mean, the obvious thing would
be the same mushrooms.
And there's a few different
types.
There's your...
You know, mushrooms.
There's your steel ones.
There's your ghost ones.
But...
If you...
If you really want to reference...
A good mushroom to use for this...
You could use the...
The poison mushrooms that are
all purple and yellow.
We could do that.
Except...
I think...
The star makes for a better
drug.
It makes you run faster.
It makes you invincible or
impervious to any damage.
Yeah.
And...
Can...
Now, the game glosses this over.
I mean...
Because...
It does make you see rainbow.
It makes you look like rainbow.
Yeah.
Well, so...
Like, to your point.
It has a little bit of an OSD
effect.
In this world.
So...
In the game.
The game glosses over.
I thought of another one that
might be funny.
Okay.
Mini mushrooms.
Yeah.
I just feel like it'd be funny.
To just have mini mushrooms be
something.
Yeah.
We could do that as a side.
Like, the guy offering drugs is
like, eh.
We got...
We got the mini mushrooms.
Or if you want the high quality
shit.
Also, mini mushrooms kind of
look like cupcakes.
We got the star powder.
So, you reference the power-ups.
Yeah.
But you don't actually have the
real stuff.
Well, now this just does sound
like the original Mario movie.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's inspired from the original
Mario movie.
For example, the mushroom.
Instead of the mushroom being
like a straight up, like, you
eat a mushroom and you get
power-
Like, have it-
Well, for Mario and Luigi, you'd
have to have them wear their
movie outfits.
You'd have to have them look
like the movie Mario movie.
Well, you know, you could go
with a high-end classy suit.
Kind of like they do when they
go into the club.
Yeah.
You have them have those, like,
really classy suits.
Uh.
Oh, I thought of another
mushroom.
That would actually be really
good.
Okay.
Because of what it's called.
It's called the weird mushroom.
Ooh.
That's literally what it's
called.
And it's really weird.
Well, yeah, it is a weird
mushroom.
It has, like, a really long
stalk and then, like, a really
flat top.
And it makes Mario tall and
skinny.
It makes him jump higher.
Ah.
I think that would be good.
Yeah.
Also, there's wonder flowers.
How do you do a gritty
alternative or equivalent of
that?
Like, I was thinking, for
example, with the standard
mushroom, it doesn't actually
make you bulk up or anything.
It's just their equivalent.
It's just their equivalent of
some hyper-caffeinated energy
drink.
Yeah.
And so, it's...
And then the one-up mushroom,
it's just that, but better.
The one-up mushroom, I think...
Oh, I know what we do at some
point.
We have one of the characters
get shot.
And...
And the other one pulls out
this elixir with the one-up
mushroom on it.
And it's a healing potion.
Also, for the drug thing, I
completely skipped over the
most obvious choice.
And what's that?
Wonder flowers.
And what do wonder flowers do?
See, the thing is, is that in
the original game, wonder
flowers, it caused the wonder
effect to kick in.
And that will cause the course
to change, or you to change
form, or something to happen,
like a bunch of bulls charging,
or a giant rock chasing after
you, Indiana Jones-style.
Or you turning into a Goomba.
Which game was this?
Mario Wonder, obviously.
Oh, I never played that one.
So, so...
The wonder flower is very
obviously a drug.
It even has, like, a little wobbly
effect around it.
All right.
That spreads out.
That's fine.
It's the most obvious thing to
use for a drug, even the name.
So, we have a drug trade that,
obviously, King Koopa, Bowser,
is in charge of.
Also, one of the code names for
the drugs in this land.
What?
It will be another reference to
Tom Nook.
You gotta call them radishes.
No, that's a stock market.
Yeah.
No, that doesn't work.
I'm not saying that it's not a
good idea.
I think, hey, that's what we do.
We have a quest that literally
has to do with Tom Nook, except
Tom Nook is a stockbroker.
With his kids, obviously.
Yeah.
He's a corrupt stockbroker.
Yeah.
He's doing the type of thing
where he's taking his clients'
investments and skimming money
off the top and investing it in
shady stuff so that they lose
their retirement money.
There we go.
We found the perfect way of
tying in Tom Nook.
Does that mean that we have to
tie in other Nintendo games now?
Like Kirby and Legend of Zelda.
I wouldn't want to bring that
too far.
Yeah.
You have to know where the line
is.
I think having one side quest
here or there is fine.
But you don't want to look for
so many opportunities to tie in
all of them.
I think the really simple way
to get something from Kirby in
is...
What?
You have a character named D.
And their nickname is Waddle.
I mean, he can...
Wait, I got it.
So D...
So Kirby can be on the police
force.
It's Captain Kirby of the
police.
And that does sound like
something from a movie.
And...
In the 90s.
And D is one of Koopa's street
distributor for Star.
Which, by the way, none of this
stuff looks like the actual
power-ups.
Like, Star is this...
I mean, it can just be like...
If you zoom in really close, it's
a char-shaped dust particle.
Yeah, exactly.
Or it just has a star on the
label.
But that's...
I'm just saying.
But I'm...
I'm trying to figure out how we
tie this together with the
overall story, though.
Because...
Now, keep in mind, this game
can be massive.
So it's not like a movie where
the story is necessarily linear.
So maybe you do have to, like...
Sorry, I keep saying, like, a
lot.
I mean, that's fine.
Eh.
You have to...
Go to...
Quote-unquote...
Dungeons or castles.
But they're not really dungeons
or castles.
They're warehouses.
I mean, there could be dungeons.
They're drug labs.
Stuff like that.
But I'm kind of missing how to
connect the overarching...
I'm having a hard time.
Well, I had an idea for Kamek.
Okay.
But that's not, like...
It's super connected with the
story.
But Kamek could be, like, the...
Secretary for Bowser.
Secretary or second-in-command?
Uh...
Well, I feel like Bowser Jr.
would be second-in-command.
But I think Bowser Jr. still
has to be incompetent.
It has to be...
Well, yeah.
Bowser Jr. has to be...
Also, Bowser Jr. cares about
his dad.
For sure.
Like, that's just part of the
normal game.
And it should be part of that,
too.
Yeah.
Like, he wants to make his dad
proud.
Yeah.
But he always just falls short.
Like, he'll still kill people
and whatnot.
Like, he can still do that.
But the problem is, he always
leaves some kind of trace.
Yeah.
He forgets to turn the lights
off in the apartment after he
leaves.
He doesn't wear gloves, so he
leaves...
Well, depending on what we do.
Fingerprints or paw prints or
whatever.
Uh, claw prints.
Yeah.
DNA evidence.
Whatever you want to call it.
So that's a good side story.
Yeah.
But Kamek would be the
secretary, probably.
And probably would backstab.
I feel like that would be funny.
Yeah.
It seems to me that if any
character was going to backstab
Bowser and roll over on him, it
would be Kamek.
Yeah.
But I'm still trying to figure
out.
Obviously, the core story is we
need to get Bowser out of power
and either bring him to justice
or have him die.
Also, can I request another
character that exists?
Okay.
Nabbit.
Which one is that?
Uh, Nabbit's a little rabbit-ish
character that wears a purple
mask and a fake version of
Bowser Jr.'s, like, little face
thing.
And he steals stuff.
But what's he from?
Uh, his friend originally knew
Super Mario vs. U.
I mean, this is getting a
little... I mean, the whole
thing's kind of esoteric, but...
Well, I mean, it's... there's
gonna be thieves.
Sure.
He's having an ordinary street
thief and they just have to
wear a bunny.
Why don't we just add MIPS to
it while we're at it?
Do you know who MIPS is?
Yeah.
Yeah, the bunny from Super
Mario 64 that gives you, like,
three stars or whatever.
Yeah, and he's impossible to
catch.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know how much lore...
Like, where's the line?
We want this to be based on the
1990s Mario movie.
Yeah.
But in a slightly different way.
Yeah.
And I'm afraid that by trying
to tie in every single Nintendo...
So look at, again, your example,
Detective Pikachu.
Yeah.
There's other Pokemon around.
Yeah.
And there's a reference to
Pokemon fighting.
But that's about it.
No, we do get to see a Pokemon
fight, but...
Yeah.
But it's a side thing.
Yeah.
It has nothing to...
So the equivalent in this game...
I mean, it does kind of have to
do with the plot.
The equivalent in this game is...
You have an underground fan-created
computer game...
That is sweeping...
The people who want to rise up
against Koopa are just
disappointed people.
And...
Koopa keeps trying to squash it.
And it can't...
So the game opens up...
Initially...
Looking like the original Super
Mario Brothers.
And then the camera pulls out...
And it's Mario and Luigi
playing the game...
And they're like...
Where did they come up with
this shit?
Like, this is nothing what it's
like.
I appreciate what people are
trying to do...
Spreading the message and
whatnot.
But...
Jumping on...
Goombas...
And...
Kicking Koopa shells?
That's just stupid.
Mushrooms making us grow...
And like he slams down the
energy drink...
That has the mushroom symbol on
it.
What are these kids learning in
school these days?
Well, you know...
Ever since Koopa got in charge...
The schools just ain't what
they used to be, Mario.
That's how you set up the whole
thing.
You set up the whole thing
saying...
We're burning it to the ground.
This is a serious, gritty...
Mario game.
I do think it would be funny to
have MIPS in NABIT though.
And I thought of how you do it.
How?
So like I said...
You have them be two kind of...
Kind of thief...
Kind of mercenary type of
things.
And...
They're going to be human,
right?
I think we will go with the
human run.
Yeah.
And both of them would wear
like ears.
With NABIT having the purple
ones...
And MIPS having the green ones.
And they'd just be like...
The little duo.
And then they'd probably ask
Mario and Luigi for something.
Yeah.
I could see that.
I mean, it's...
Probably mercenaries and not
thieves.
Or...
Or you could flip it about.
So you can have it so that they
get confused for each other.
One of them...
Uh-oh.
Is a bit of a thief.
But he's a thief with a good
heart.
Yeah, that would be NABIT.
He steals...
He steals things in order to
provide for orphans.
And for the...
The toads of the world.
You know, the...
The regular...
Yeah.
Peasantry, so to speak.
I think NABIT steals from the
toads.
But the toads in the normal
Mario games are kind of rich.
Yeah, this is different.
So I think it would be flipped
a little bit.
Versus MIPS...
MIPS is just...
Chaos?
Chaos.
I mean, if you just hear the
name, like, that just makes me
think of chaos.
Well, you...
You...
For example, you have these cutscenes
where it should...
So you have to go and catch MIPS...
Somehow.
Because MIPS is causing chaos.
And you just show, like...
This security camera footage
from an ATM.
Yeah.
And it just shows, like...
It shows a bright blur going
past.
Yeah.
And then they do one of those
stupid zoom and enhance things
where...
Yeah.
Ah.
MIPS is at it again.
We have to go put a stop to him.
Yeah.
Or her.
It.
I still...
Am at a loss, though.
The overarching story...
Is...
Well, I think...
I think it's obvious what the
overarching story is.
Bowser's in charge.
I think it's obvious what the
overarching story is.
Okay.
Well, obviously, Bowser has
this whole drug thing going,
right?
But...
Well, here's the thing.
But he also runs the entire...
Yeah.
So here...
Here.
Yeah.
Soldiers or whatever.
This is how I see it.
And nobody knows.
That Bowser's doing the
underground business.
They just see him as the guy
that rules it with...
Sort of an iron fist with...
Well, they see him as a very,
very corrupt...
Yeah.
Leader.
Who they know...
Did some shady murder shit to
get...
Yeah, but they don't know what.
Right?
So...
So they don't know how far this
goes off.
Alright.
And...
But here...
Let me...
Let me continue here.
And how is the...
We have to figure out how is
the drug thing...
Knocking down the citizens and
keeping them...
Out of the ability...
To...
Overthrow him.
Or out of the ability to get
their lives back.
But continue.
So...
Here's the thing.
So Mario and Luigi have to take
these different missions.
And eventually...
After completing like a certain
like...
Tree of missions...
They'll end up finding like...
A coupon like...
Pulling the strings beside...
Behind a certain operation.
Whether it be like...
A gang...
Or a drug empire...
Or a mafia...
Or something like that.
It'll be one of the coupons.
And I'm able to get some
information out of that coupons.
You see?
And maybe find some bodies.
With evidence.
Right.
And you know...
We kind of have that...
A cliche Mario thing.
Where you fight the coupons.
But no corrupt leader is going
to go quietly.
Yeah.
And clearly he has some people...
Some of the citizens are going
to be on his side.
Yep.
So...
We have to figure out...
Alright.
So it starts off...
We have our guys.
They're basically...
Fugitive...
Investigators...
Slash...
Mercen...
Not mercenaries...
Vigilantes.
Loosely connected to the ousted...
Princess.
Oh.
What's her story?
So what...
What...
Is Koopa saying?
Why couldn't she be next in
line?
Why was she...
Unfit for rule...
After her father...
Disappeared under mysterious
circumstances?
Well you see...
Shamefully...
There was a tiny document that...
Was signed by the king...
Right before his sudden
disappearance...
That...
His...
His right hand man...
Koopa...
Would...
Take the throne...
Uh...
Under...
For...
You know...
If there were any...
Problematic matters...
Like...
Setting his house...
Yeah, if there was, you know,
say, a definitely real uprising,
if there's this rebellion, you
know, if this rebellion stirs
up again, Koopa will take the
place.
Obviously no one knows that Koopa's
in charge of that rebellion.
Well, okay, alright, so the
story is, in the flashbacks, we
have this story of Princess
Peach was planning to overthrow
her father.
So this has been planted into
the media, and the media is
running with it.
And then obviously, when
certain acts of rebellion are
tied to her, that comes up in
the media as the dissident
Peach, or the Peach who was...
The Fugitive, or...
Sour Peach?
Traitor.
Traitor to the kingdom,
Princess Peach.
So, alright, we've got that
angle.
Yep.
Alright, good.
Now, the missions don't all
have to do with the main story,
obviously, because you do have
to be able to get money to get
better gear.
Maybe get some people onto your
side, you know?
Yeah, influence people.
Maybe by choosing to help
certain people and not helping
others, it affects the overall
storyline of the game.
Sometimes you've got to decide
how shady you want to go.
Maybe Mario and Luigi
themselves have the capacity to
go super dark.
Like, maybe...
Kill everyone.
Well, I wouldn't say kill
everyone, but...
Games...
There are a lot of games like
this where the decision trees
affect the personality, the
opportunities, and the outcomes
of the game.
The one that I can think of
most easily is Undertale.
Okay.
Because if you kill certain
monsters or spare certain
monsters, some of the other
characters will comment on it.
Right.
Like, Undyne will comment if
you kill a certain monster that's
a teen comedian in a group with
Jerry and Icecap.
If you kill Snow Drake in that
group, Undyne will comment on
it.
And obviously you can choose to
do the genocide run, which is
just kill everyone.
Well, I mean, to Mario and
Luigi's part, I mean, it can go
dark.
Yeah.
Because maybe they're sick of
this.
Maybe they just want to get
home.
Yeah.
They didn't want to be here in
the first place.
So maybe they have to make some
shady deals with shady people.
Well, not just that.
Not even just that.
Maybe one of the endings is...
Kill Peach.
It could be.
Maybe one of the endings is,
fuck this world.
We're just leaving.
Our goal is to find a way back
home.
And that's it.
Depending on the decisions you
make, which affect your
personality.
So how many endings do you
think there'd be?
Three?
Five?
Six?
There would be several.
Yeah.
There would be a lot.
Because you could also go full
evil.
Kill everyone?
Arrest everyone?
You overthrow Bowser and you
take control.
You go full evil.
You murder the princess because
she's obviously a risk.
Like, so you get so jaded and
you get so involved.
So as you're taking out the
drug dealers, you're starting
to take over their business.
Instead of just turning them
into the police, who may or may
not be corrupt anyway.
You take over their business.
So you'll have a choice.
Offer them a deal or turn them
in.
Yeah, they'll offer you
anything.
And so you could start taking
over the drug trade.
And undermining Bowser that way.
And in the end, you end up
killing Peach because you can't
have the resistance.
You end up killing Bowser
because you can't have him.
Maybe you keep Kamek, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe you keep Kamek.
And Kamek definitely won't backstab
you too.
Right.
Well, you got to be nicer to
him.
That's just the way it is.
Or her or whatever.
Them.
But then, of course, you have
to have the hero arc.
Yeah.
And then you have almost, I
wouldn't call it superhero, but
you have the ultimate did
everything
for everyone arc.
where because you went above
and beyond.
Because you took on so many
side quests to help the
everyday citizens and whatnot.
There's an ending where not
only do you take on Bowser and
defeat him, but Mario ends up
with Princess Peach.
Luigi ends up with Daisy.
Citizenry loves all of you.
You know who Daisy could be?
Who?
Peaches will now technically ex-world
advisor.
Right.
Or, yeah, right hand.
Yeah.
So, we have a variety of
endings that depend upon the
decisions you make throughout
the game.
I think this works.
Yeah.
Now, Nintendo.
If you've listened to our
podcast before, you've heard
this spiel before.
We're going to put it out there
again.
Now, at the beginning of the
episode, we said for the low
cost of $1,000.
Or $100,000.
But, now that we've fleshed out
the idea, we thought through it.
What's going on?
Inflation and the quality of
the idea.
Yeah.
$500,000?
Because of that, for the low
cost of $500,000, plus, what do
you think, 3% of the gross
profits?
Yeah, that should be good.
Well, actually, no.
Let's stretch this a little bit.
5% on the so-called physical
cart sales.
3% on the digital store sales.
Yeah.
And this idea could be yours.
For the low price of $700,000.
Right.
And just keep in mind, I know
you're a family-friendly game
company.
You've always been the family-friendly
one.
We understand this.
And we appreciate that legacy.
In fact, if I was going to buy
another game system, I would
probably still buy a Switch or
a Switch 2.
Yeah.
But, and that's brand loyalty.
And that should be worth
something to you when we're
making this proposal to you.
See, we are Nintendo loyalists.
I did have an Xbox at one point.
But for the most part, Nintendo
loyalists when it comes to the
console world.
Just take that into
consideration.
But, even Disney, known as the
most family-friendly media
company in the world, now has
things like Deadpool, Andor,
and all of these other spin-offs.
Pirates of the Caribbean. These
are all darker. These are all,
you know, teen to adult level
things. You can do this and
just say it's not canon. Yeah.
It's a side story based upon
the concepts of the 1990s movie.
Yep.
It opens up a brand new market
for you. Now you'll have the
opportunity to put out grittier
games to a higher audience
because you have a game within
your core properties that might
have some shout outs to your
other properties that opens the
door to do these, these darker
and grittier interpretations. I
mean, think of the
possibilities with your other
games like Star Fox, Kirby, et
cetera. I guarantee you, you
could do a nightmare fuel thing
with Kirby.
I mean, that, I mean, you could
definitely do a grittier thing,
sir. If they did it right, that
would make an incredible movie.
Yep. But they won't. They'll
make it terrible. And for some
reason, you can't insult our
client like that. Well, sorry,
Nintendo's animation studio.
Not, not the games division. We
only care about the games
division right now.
So, Nintendo. Hit us up. I
think that this is a viable
game idea. And if you're not
from Nintendo, but you still
want to leave us feedback,
feedback@nontopical.com is
the place to do that. And if
you do get any value out of
this conversation, then please
show whatever equal value you
want in return, either by
sending that free feedback,
or by going to ko-fi.com/nontopical.
Uh... Kit, do you have anything
else to add at this point?
Hmm... Hmm... You know, Lur...
Oh no... Alright...
Thanks, that's all we got for
this episode.
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