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It's a gorgeous morning here in

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San Francisco, California.

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What? How would you know if it's

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a nice morning in San Francisco?

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I mean, that's obviously where

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we are.

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I mean, no. And it would only

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be 7 a.m. in San Francisco.

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Yeah, that's still morning.

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Anyway, it's a lovely morning

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in southern New England.

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The bugs are bugging. The sun

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is sunning. The breeze is breezing.

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What more could you ask for?

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Cheese quesadilla.

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Of course. Of course. This, you

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know, it's going to get said at

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least once per show, I'm pretty

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sure, until he gets sick of it.

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Maybe.

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When are you going to get sick

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of cheese quesadillas?

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Who knows?

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Who knows?

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Yeah, well, you know, the good

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thing is, if that museum idea

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works out, we'll have plenty of

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hands that we can use to eat

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the cheese quesadillas.

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Yeah.

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So what's going on?

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So what's going on?

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In terms of what?

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I don't know. We're walking.

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Start talking.

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About what?

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What do you mean, about what?

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About what?

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I don't know. You said you were

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doing something the other day.

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Well, what were you doing the

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other day, first of all? So you.

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So. What has been exciting for

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you lately?

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I have been. I terminated some

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plants on Thursday. Oh, that's

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why there were those green.

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Yeah. Spikeys. Yeah. Up in the

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in the brush pile. Yeah. Did

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you enjoy cleaning? Cutting the

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green spikeys? They attacked me.

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They attacked you? Yeah. Well,

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you got to keep in mind they

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attacked me too. I mean, really,

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they had it coming.

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But yeah, Kit does do some

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assistance with the yard when

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required to. I won't say when

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volunteering because he doesn't

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volunteer anything. Anyway.

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So, so the weeds. What about

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the weeds?

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So, I found out that they, they,

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they don't just come out of the

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ground. They also go back into

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it. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, like, especially, like, not

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so much just rose bushes, but,

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like, uh, pricker type weeds.

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It's really interesting. So

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they'll grow. And they'll get

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so big that the other side of

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it will, like, penetrate into

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the ground.

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And then that will start

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becoming roots. So then you get,

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like, a double-sided vine,

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which is really weird. It's all

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one big root system. Yeah. And

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this gets to my idea. Well,

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hang on. Let me finish. So the

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problem with weeds, really, is

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that if you don't kill the

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roots, they will keep coming

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back over and over again. Yeah.

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Which is why there's specific,

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like, plant killers that you

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have to use. So that the... Or

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you can just dig a bunch. It'll

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ingest the poison down all the

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way into the roots. Like, even

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sucking it down through the

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stem and whatnot. That's... You

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know, we killed a bunch of

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poison ivy last year.

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And that stuff... Supposedly.

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That stuff will come back rigorously.

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It... It... It wants to live.

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It wants to live. And it will

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fight hard. Yeah. It'll fight

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hard to live. Yeah.

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Anyway, so... Weeds that...

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That grow vines that then

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become roots on the other side

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of the vines or plant. What...

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What did this bring up for you?

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What... What is your idea? So...

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Imagine there's this movie...

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Okay. About... A... A plant parlor.

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A plant parlor? Yeah. What's a

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plant parlor? I don't know,

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like a flower shop or something.

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Like... Like... Like... Little

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Shop of Horrors?

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uh not exactly but they

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probably sells plants and stuff

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so okay so it's a they they

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have the

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the the pretty flowers growing

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outside on vines okay uh and

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then the the the they go making

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grandma here's the thing those

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flowers aren't the actual plant

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flower uh you you see all of

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those

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all those the all the vines

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with the flowers are really

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just the roots and the real

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plant is

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underneath the building okay

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yeah that's interesting so so

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what's the plot though

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uh like what why why well well

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obviously uh it's one hive mind

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plant okay it's a hive mind

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plant but

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like what what gets okay so let's

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set the scene here you have

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some kind of arboretum

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or uh or florist we don't know

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which yet but like it's

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someplace where you can go to

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look at plants

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and purchase plants yeah okay

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so far we're on the same page

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yeah outside of this place

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now does it start off like it

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does does the movie start off

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with this place

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already already existing or

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does this place kind of just

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show up overnight i was

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thinking it would

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already exist okay place

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already exists and everybody

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knows about this place so there's

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there's nothing

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suspicious about yeah okay all

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right fine so this is just

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normal nice place for people to

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go and look at

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and/or buy plants. Yeah. Okay.

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Outside there are these vines

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that are like maybe hanging off

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the

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building or like they have all

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this lattice work where it's

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like you know wooden structures

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metal structures and there are

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these vines hanging down and

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the vines all connect to

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flowers and have

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flowers on them. Yeah. Okay.

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All right. At least they look

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like flowers. Okay so they look

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like

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flowers. Fine. How does this

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and and you know we discover at

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some point later on that it's

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all

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connected to this giant plant

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of some kind underneath the

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building in either a cave

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system or in another

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building in a room that was

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specifically built for it. Yeah.

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Okay. Why is that drama?

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Because

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the plant is evil obviously.

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But what does the plant do?

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Like because keep in mind like

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what you're describing is like

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the end of Little Shop of Horrors

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right now. Yeah.

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Like Little Shop of Horrors. It's

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one giant pod that eats people

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and then at the end it has all

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these little mini things that

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are growing off of its its its

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its vine arms. Yeah. And they

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sing. Yeah. And it's creepy.

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Yeah. So we obviously can't

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redo that. Yeah. So I like the

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premise so far.

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what does the plant do over

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time well my original idea was

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that it could hypnotize people

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okay that's interesting now to

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what end what do you mean okay

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so people come

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to this this place and they're

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looking at the flowers and

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somehow through pheromones or

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something

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else they get hypnotized by the

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flowers okay now what they're

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hypnotized what are they hypnotized

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do and why well plant more with

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the plants of these plant more

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of the plants yeah okay but the

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i have is so let's presume this

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is taking place in one town

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this this is not going national

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or anything

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these things aren't like super

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famous this is just one small

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town in in like middle of

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nowhere usa

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or canada or canadia yes yeah

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also known by leno ruley as

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fake america so okay i'm with

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you so far

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now when they plant the flowers

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so so obviously these flowers

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would look as if they have

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their own roots

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because you're not going to

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drag a vine all the way from

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the store back to your house so

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these would

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have to be like little seedlings

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yeah but do the seedlings then

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underground grow a vine back to

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main one okay so basically the

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story is plant hive mind is

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using its hive mind influence

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through hip

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hypnosis of its flowers to get

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people to plant more of the

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flowers to expand its reach

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across a small

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town in the united states or

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canada yeah okay okay wait i i

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have i have a full idea now

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okay do go on so

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Originally in this town, there

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was a laboratory.

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And they were testing on

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genetic manipulation on plants,

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as a lot of places do.

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Okay.

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And one day, a horrible tragedy

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occurred where a suddenly sinkhole

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appeared.

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It was definitely a sinkhole,

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and none of the plants they

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made caused it, for sure.

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Okay.

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So there's a few different

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genetically modified plants

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trapped down there.

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And the biggest one is the one

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that now has the shop built

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over it.

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I'm now getting a little bit of

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Batman and Robin vibes when,

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you know,

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scientists have been

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experimenting with plant

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extracts and whatnot,

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and kills Lady and, like, all

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the plant extracts and, like,

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hybrid plants grab her.

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And then she becomes, like, Poison

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Ivy is, like, what her

291
00:11:24,940 --> 00:11:26,680
character's name is.

292
00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:27,940
But still.

293
00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,310
So, yeah, obviously that

294
00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:31,400
happens.

295
00:11:31,460 --> 00:11:32,810
And they built the new flower

296
00:11:32,810 --> 00:11:33,800
shop on top of it.

297
00:11:34,220 --> 00:11:35,040
Well, yeah.

298
00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:37,880
Wait, the plants built it?

299
00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:39,240
No, the plants didn't build it.

300
00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:39,640
Okay.

301
00:11:39,860 --> 00:11:40,900
Some people did.

302
00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:41,940
So, okay.

303
00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,230
So, laboratory basically falls

304
00:11:44,230 --> 00:11:45,500
into sinkhole.

305
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,720
Definitely natural causes.

306
00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,360
Definitely.

307
00:11:48,740 --> 00:11:49,910
You know, the scientists don't

308
00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:51,500
know that this has happened.

309
00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,060
Like, maybe, like, well, how do

310
00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:54,430
you foreshadow that without it

311
00:11:54,430 --> 00:11:55,800
being obvious, though?

312
00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,040
Like, hey, whoops, I dropped

313
00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,060
one of the sample seeds and it

314
00:12:00,060 --> 00:12:02,440
fell somewhere and it's lost.

315
00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,210
I don't know how you set that

316
00:12:04,210 --> 00:12:05,520
up in a way that's organic.

317
00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,080
Hey, organic.

318
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,460
Yeah, there we go.

319
00:12:09,220 --> 00:12:10,640
All right.

320
00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,530
But I don't know how you set

321
00:12:12,530 --> 00:12:14,330
that up in a way that is not

322
00:12:14,330 --> 00:12:16,360
obvious from the get-go.

323
00:12:16,460 --> 00:12:17,660
But then again, this is a bee

324
00:12:17,660 --> 00:12:18,640
movie, probably.

325
00:12:19,180 --> 00:12:20,120
So, people probably don't care

326
00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,160
that it's obvious.

327
00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:22,930
They're like, I bet that's

328
00:12:22,930 --> 00:12:24,820
going to come back later.

329
00:12:26,420 --> 00:12:27,200
So, okay.

330
00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,460
So, scientists are working with

331
00:12:29,460 --> 00:12:31,620
genetically inbred plants.

332
00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,720
I said inbred plants.

333
00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,950
They're keeping their

334
00:12:37,950 --> 00:12:39,520
relationship in the plant

335
00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,220
family.

336
00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,500
Anyway, moving on.

337
00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,460
So, plant, seed, pod gets

338
00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:47,240
dropped at some point.

339
00:12:47,460 --> 00:12:49,080
And then, entire building

340
00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,700
randomly collapses.

341
00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,120
Scientists don't really know

342
00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,060
what's going on.

343
00:12:53,820 --> 00:12:54,480
But the entire building

344
00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,320
collapses into a sinkhole.

345
00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,240
And then the town comes and,

346
00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,160
like, fills the sinkhole in

347
00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,240
with, like, dirt and stuff to

348
00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,940
make it stable again.

349
00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:04,340
Yeah.

350
00:13:04,340 --> 00:13:05,880
So, they fill it in with, like,

351
00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,420
concrete, dirt, whatever.

352
00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:09,980
And then they sell the lot.

353
00:13:10,940 --> 00:13:11,260
Yep.

354
00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,860
And what do you know?

355
00:13:12,980 --> 00:13:15,200
There's this nice, like, you

356
00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,900
know, nice man and his wife, we'll

357
00:13:17,900 --> 00:13:20,680
say, who, you know, are looking

358
00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:22,460
to start a florist.

359
00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,340
Like, they want to start.

360
00:13:25,460 --> 00:13:27,620
Well, maybe the town donates

361
00:13:27,620 --> 00:13:30,330
the land to make it into an arboretum

362
00:13:30,330 --> 00:13:33,020
and, like, plant sale place.

363
00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:33,300
Yeah.

364
00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:35,580
And, you know, there's man and

365
00:13:35,580 --> 00:13:37,450
wife who have always loved

366
00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:38,320
plants.

367
00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,630
And they get elected to be in

368
00:13:39,630 --> 00:13:40,880
charge of this thing.

369
00:13:40,980 --> 00:13:43,030
So, they don't truly know what's

370
00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:43,880
going on.

371
00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:45,880
Yes.

372
00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:46,460
All right.

373
00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,030
So, they plant all the nice

374
00:13:48,030 --> 00:13:48,660
plants.

375
00:13:49,540 --> 00:13:50,270
You know, it's a nice story of

376
00:13:50,270 --> 00:13:52,070
them, like, getting to pursue

377
00:13:52,070 --> 00:13:53,040
their passion.

378
00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,830
People from the town come and

379
00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:55,400
help.

380
00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,000
And pretty soon there's this

381
00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,380
thriving arboretum.

382
00:13:58,380 --> 00:13:58,520
Yeah.

383
00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,950
And then, like, Guy notices,

384
00:14:00,950 --> 00:14:03,470
huh, like, we have these really

385
00:14:03,470 --> 00:14:04,800
pretty vines.

386
00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:06,180
I don't know what genus they

387
00:14:06,180 --> 00:14:06,560
are.

388
00:14:06,620 --> 00:14:07,840
I don't know what they are.

389
00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:10,230
But they're making these really

390
00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:11,480
pretty flowers.

391
00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,290
Why don't we help them to

392
00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:14,120
thrive?

393
00:14:14,300 --> 00:14:15,520
We'll put some, you know,

394
00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,960
structures that they can grow

395
00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,720
on outside.

396
00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,160
And, you know, we'll encourage

397
00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,500
them because it'll be pretty.

398
00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,600
Yeah.

399
00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:25,740
Okay.

400
00:14:25,940 --> 00:14:28,120
Also, there will be the three

401
00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,640
main characters.

402
00:14:30,060 --> 00:14:30,420
Okay.

403
00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:31,620
Three main characters.

404
00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:32,260
Let's go.

405
00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,880
There will be the four shot

406
00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,340
people, which are the two

407
00:14:35,340 --> 00:14:36,040
people.

408
00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:37,160
So, that's like, you're

409
00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,720
counting that as one character.

410
00:14:38,860 --> 00:14:39,570
They're not unique in and of

411
00:14:39,570 --> 00:14:40,120
themselves.

412
00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,190
No, I'm saying they're two

413
00:14:41,190 --> 00:14:41,900
characters.

414
00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,180
Okay.

415
00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:42,800
Two characters.

416
00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:44,410
And then, the third main

417
00:14:44,410 --> 00:14:46,910
character would be the whistleblower

418
00:14:46,910 --> 00:14:47,460
guy.

419
00:14:47,740 --> 00:14:49,400
The whistleblower guy.

420
00:14:49,460 --> 00:14:49,780
Yeah.

421
00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,300
Because, obviously, they're

422
00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:52,570
going to try to cover up that

423
00:14:52,570 --> 00:14:53,970
anything bad happened to this

424
00:14:53,970 --> 00:14:54,800
laboratory.

425
00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:56,440
Oh, okay.

426
00:14:56,660 --> 00:14:58,860
So, this guy, he'd be going on

427
00:14:58,860 --> 00:15:01,250
about making alien plants and

428
00:15:01,250 --> 00:15:01,940
such.

429
00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,010
Alien plants that suck people's

430
00:15:04,010 --> 00:15:04,660
blood.

431
00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:05,670
And, there's definitely no

432
00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:06,460
reference there.

433
00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:07,620
Wait.

434
00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,840
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

435
00:15:08,980 --> 00:15:09,960
Let's stop for a minute.

436
00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:12,400
Hey, I'm smelling something

437
00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,320
different here now.

438
00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:14,760
Wait a minute.

439
00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,940
We've got some opportunity.

440
00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:18,670
I think that this story has

441
00:15:18,670 --> 00:15:20,820
just taken a turn.

442
00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,170
Because, you're like, well, the

443
00:15:23,170 --> 00:15:25,220
story is about this hive mind.

444
00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:26,180
Plant.

445
00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:26,540
Yeah.

446
00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,740
No, no, no, no.

447
00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,000
See.

448
00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:32,880
Here's where we go with this.

449
00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,720
Whistleblower guy is actually

450
00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,920
one of the former mad

451
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,860
scientists who nobody knew that

452
00:15:37,860 --> 00:15:38,680
escaped.

453
00:15:39,020 --> 00:15:39,200
Yeah.

454
00:15:39,780 --> 00:15:40,140
Okay.

455
00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:41,790
And, he doesn't know what

456
00:15:41,790 --> 00:15:43,700
happened to the building.

457
00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,800
He just knows that the town

458
00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,960
filled it in and whatnot.

459
00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:47,460
And, he's trying to make sure

460
00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:48,960
that he's distancing himself

461
00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,520
from anything having to do with

462
00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:50,900
it.

463
00:15:50,980 --> 00:15:52,290
Because, you know, it was kind

464
00:15:52,290 --> 00:15:52,920
of...

465
00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,440
I mean, none of his work

466
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:54,980
survived.

467
00:15:55,140 --> 00:15:56,240
And, you know, he's kind of

468
00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,200
ashamed that nothing, you know...

469
00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,460
Like, what did we do?

470
00:15:59,540 --> 00:16:01,300
We made some plants that didn't...

471
00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:02,550
And, he's like, we've got to

472
00:16:02,550 --> 00:16:03,750
make plants that, like, do

473
00:16:03,750 --> 00:16:04,160
stuff.

474
00:16:04,740 --> 00:16:05,780
We've got to make...

475
00:16:05,780 --> 00:16:06,640
Oh, wait.

476
00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:08,300
We can be even more stereotypical.

477
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,780
So, his part of the lab, unbeknownst

478
00:16:12,780 --> 00:16:15,080
to everyone else in the lab,

479
00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,740
was run and funded by the U.S.

480
00:16:17,740 --> 00:16:18,900
military.

481
00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,580
Of course.

482
00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:21,860
So, they're trying to get...

483
00:16:21,860 --> 00:16:23,200
He was trying to weaponize

484
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,800
plants.

485
00:16:24,020 --> 00:16:24,260
Yeah.

486
00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,720
Now, everybody else was just

487
00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,710
trying to do, like, good

488
00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:27,240
studies.

489
00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:29,100
Like, trying to gauge the

490
00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,080
intelligence of plants.

491
00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,080
Or, make healthier plants for

492
00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,720
eating.

493
00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:34,120
Right.

494
00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:35,760
Or, to, like, you know,

495
00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,940
determine, like, hey...

496
00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:39,130
Like, there are some stories

497
00:16:39,130 --> 00:16:40,470
out there that plants actually,

498
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:41,660
you know, feel things.

499
00:16:41,660 --> 00:16:43,750
And, like, if you yell at them,

500
00:16:43,750 --> 00:16:45,740
they grow better sometimes.

501
00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,350
And, if you, you know, if you

502
00:16:47,350 --> 00:16:49,040
mistreat them, they don't like

503
00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:49,480
it.

504
00:16:49,940 --> 00:16:51,480
And, maybe they have some sort

505
00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,300
of pain tolerance thing.

506
00:16:53,420 --> 00:16:54,100
You know, who knows?

507
00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:55,140
There's some studies around

508
00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:55,460
that.

509
00:16:56,060 --> 00:16:56,990
They're probably sketchy, but

510
00:16:56,990 --> 00:16:57,500
still.

511
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,090
So, you have the majority of

512
00:17:00,090 --> 00:17:02,440
the lab doing, you know,

513
00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,270
legitimate science and trying

514
00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:07,440
to create hybrid plants that,

515
00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,260
you know, maybe look prettier,

516
00:17:09,260 --> 00:17:10,160
smell nicer.

517
00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,240
Grow faster.

518
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,680
Grow faster.

519
00:17:13,020 --> 00:17:14,760
Or, maybe they do try to look

520
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,920
into plant intelligence.

521
00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:18,590
And, meanwhile, this shady guy

522
00:17:18,590 --> 00:17:19,930
is off in his own corner just

523
00:17:19,930 --> 00:17:21,240
trying to do whatever.

524
00:17:22,820 --> 00:17:23,910
And, he's about to make a

525
00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:25,450
breakthrough on plants that'll,

526
00:17:25,450 --> 00:17:26,840
you know, like, be able to be,

527
00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,060
like, planted in the enemy

528
00:17:28,060 --> 00:17:29,640
fields, grow quickly, and then,

529
00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,120
like, overwhelm them.

530
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:31,740
Yeah.

531
00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:34,520
So, he goes and he starts

532
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,020
working on this.

533
00:17:36,020 --> 00:17:38,020
He starts working on this.

534
00:17:38,020 --> 00:17:39,480
Like, after he escapes from the

535
00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,790
lab, he goes to his basement

536
00:17:40,790 --> 00:17:42,030
and keeps sending progress

537
00:17:42,030 --> 00:17:43,330
reports to the government or

538
00:17:43,330 --> 00:17:44,020
whatever.

539
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,220
And, nobody knows about this

540
00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:45,440
guy.

541
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:46,620
Okay.

542
00:17:47,060 --> 00:17:47,280
Yeah.

543
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:48,200
All right.

544
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,490
Then, why would he be calling

545
00:17:49,490 --> 00:17:50,500
him a whistleblower?

546
00:17:50,780 --> 00:17:51,580
Just, just, no, no, no.

547
00:17:51,580 --> 00:17:52,810
He's not going to be a whistleblower

548
00:17:52,810 --> 00:17:53,120
guy.

549
00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,780
I got an idea how we'd change

550
00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:55,360
this.

551
00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,660
So, he doesn't want anybody to

552
00:17:56,660 --> 00:17:57,920
know about the lab or what he's

553
00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,400
doing.

554
00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:01,480
So, he's, maybe there's another

555
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,310
scientist that's actually, like,

556
00:18:03,310 --> 00:18:05,200
good scientist that's, like,

557
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,540
hey, I also, like, look, I don't

558
00:18:07,540 --> 00:18:08,750
want to admit that I was

559
00:18:08,750 --> 00:18:10,570
associated with this project

560
00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:12,350
because there were all these

561
00:18:12,350 --> 00:18:13,620
weird stuff.

562
00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:16,010
But, like, there was this guy

563
00:18:16,010 --> 00:18:16,960
at the lab.

564
00:18:17,620 --> 00:18:19,080
We never found him.

565
00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:20,420
We never found his body.

566
00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,030
But, he, like, we really think

567
00:18:23,030 --> 00:18:25,840
he was doing some sketchy stuff.

568
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,470
So, here's where the twist

569
00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:28,580
happens, okay?

570
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,940
So, you have hive mind plant.

571
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:30,480
Yeah.

572
00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:32,310
And, really, hive mind plant

573
00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:33,960
doesn't hurt anybody.

574
00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:37,530
Hive mind plant is just trying

575
00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:40,160
to grow and expand.

576
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,370
It hypnotizes people to plant

577
00:18:42,370 --> 00:18:43,120
more of it.

578
00:18:43,420 --> 00:18:45,060
And, you really set it up so

579
00:18:45,060 --> 00:18:47,260
that everybody perceives that

580
00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,260
hive mind plant is probably

581
00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:51,140
going to be the evil one.

582
00:18:51,980 --> 00:18:54,140
But, as it turns out, here's

583
00:18:54,140 --> 00:18:56,740
where the fun comes in.

584
00:18:57,660 --> 00:18:59,490
So, meanwhile, evil scientist

585
00:18:59,490 --> 00:19:02,230
guy starts planting plants, you

586
00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:04,820
know, on the edges of town.

587
00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:06,380
Like, maybe, maybe there's a

588
00:19:06,380 --> 00:19:07,280
local prison.

589
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,060
And, he plants the plants

590
00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:10,140
outside of the prison.

591
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,300
And, they look a little bit

592
00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:12,440
like hive mind plants.

593
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,770
So, you can't, like, so, at

594
00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:15,140
first, you're thinking they are

595
00:19:15,140 --> 00:19:16,200
part of the hive mind.

596
00:19:16,260 --> 00:19:17,330
The only thing is, like, maybe

597
00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:18,640
the hive mind plants are purple.

598
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,580
And, these are obviously red.

599
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,420
All right?

600
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,300
But, they...

601
00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:24,620
Well, no, like, the middle part

602
00:19:24,620 --> 00:19:25,800
would be a different color.

603
00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:26,480
Fine.

604
00:19:26,820 --> 00:19:27,060
Yeah.

605
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:27,480
Yeah.

606
00:19:27,620 --> 00:19:28,700
It has to be more subtle.

607
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,740
You can't make it too obvious.

608
00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:29,960
Yeah, that's true.

609
00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:31,750
Speaking of pretty flowers, we

610
00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:33,180
got a bunch of pretty pink and

611
00:19:33,180 --> 00:19:34,400
white flowers off to our left

612
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,060
right now.

613
00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,630
You can't see them because this

614
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:37,300
is a podcast.

615
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,000
But, they do be looking pretty.

616
00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:42,700
Well, there's some magenta ones.

617
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,260
Yeah.

618
00:19:44,540 --> 00:19:45,160
They're pretty.

619
00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:46,840
Yeah, pretty magenta ones.

620
00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:47,200
Anyway.

621
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:48,480
So...

622
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,560
All of them, I was saying.

623
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaking of...

624
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,150
So, like, one night, there's a

625
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:53,040
prison break.

626
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,280
And, these prisoners escape.

627
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,800
And, these flowers, like...

628
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,140
Quack.

629
00:19:57,420 --> 00:19:59,200
Attack them with poisonous barbs.

630
00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:00,260
And, then, suck their blood.

631
00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:01,380
And, like, absorb their bodies

632
00:20:01,380 --> 00:20:02,120
under the ground.

633
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:02,970
Like, they pull the bodies

634
00:20:02,970 --> 00:20:03,640
under the ground.

635
00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:05,060
Look at the quackers.

636
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,540
Yay, quackers.

637
00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:07,840
All right?

638
00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:08,180
Ducks.

639
00:20:08,180 --> 00:20:08,380
So...

640
00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:08,380
Ducks.

641
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,010
But, the flowers are so similar

642
00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:13,140
to the hive mind plant.

643
00:20:13,260 --> 00:20:14,510
That, everybody is presuming

644
00:20:14,510 --> 00:20:15,620
this is one big thing.

645
00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:18,640
Like, Scientist Man didn't...

646
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,170
So, Scientist Man, like, is

647
00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:21,980
sketchily planting these things.

648
00:20:21,980 --> 00:20:23,030
But, you're presuming that

649
00:20:23,030 --> 00:20:24,160
those are the same things that

650
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,260
are planted elsewhere.

651
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,040
But, the twist comes...

652
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,040
When...

653
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,040
Arboretum people...

654
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:34,420
Like, are starting to get

655
00:20:34,420 --> 00:20:36,050
accused of, like, something

656
00:20:36,050 --> 00:20:37,380
weird going on with their

657
00:20:37,380 --> 00:20:38,700
plants or whatever.

658
00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:40,630
And, they're able to trace down

659
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:42,210
and discover the hive mind

660
00:20:42,210 --> 00:20:42,840
plant.

661
00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:43,800
Yeah.

662
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:45,440
And...

663
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,400
Deep in the basement.

664
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,700
Deep in, like, the sub-levels.

665
00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:49,500
Like, they manage to find a

666
00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:50,260
tunnel or something.

667
00:20:50,380 --> 00:20:50,600
Yeah.

668
00:20:51,980 --> 00:20:52,580
And, they go down there and the

669
00:20:52,580 --> 00:20:53,940
thing is psychic.

670
00:20:55,060 --> 00:20:55,420
Yeah.

671
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,600
And, it starts communicating

672
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,140
with them.

673
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:58,490
And, they're like, why are you

674
00:20:58,490 --> 00:20:59,340
killing people?

675
00:20:59,940 --> 00:21:00,640
What's going on?

676
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,540
And, it's like, look...

677
00:21:02,540 --> 00:21:04,380
All I want to do is live.

678
00:21:05,380 --> 00:21:06,910
And, you have treated me so

679
00:21:06,910 --> 00:21:07,720
well.

680
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,840
I have...

681
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,100
I have...

682
00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:10,780
You know...

683
00:21:10,780 --> 00:21:13,190
My only purpose has been to

684
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:14,740
keep you safe.

685
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,220
And, while I may have

686
00:21:16,220 --> 00:21:18,390
influenced people to plant, you

687
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:19,820
know, offshoots of me

688
00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:21,520
throughout the town.

689
00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:22,460
There's a reason.

690
00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:23,930
And, what do you mean there's a

691
00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:24,520
reason?

692
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,240
You're killing people.

693
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,800
I have killed no one.

694
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,390
You see, back when I was just a

695
00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:30,580
seedling.

696
00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:33,100
And, my intelligence was just,

697
00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:35,140
like, beginning to take root.

698
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:35,860
Hey!

699
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,800
Um...

700
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,320
There was...

701
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,120
There was a man...

702
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,120
You know, there was a man...

703
00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:45,120
Who...

704
00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:46,880
Was doing these really bad

705
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,480
experiences to my plant

706
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,400
brethren.

707
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,420
And, turning them into man-eaters.

708
00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:53,720
Wait, I thought of another

709
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,520
twist, too.

710
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:56,840
So...

711
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,120
Uh...

712
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,000
I'll get to that in a minute.

713
00:22:00,380 --> 00:22:01,720
So, it turns out that hive mind

714
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,190
plant has really just been

715
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:05,120
expanding its influence...

716
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:08,120
In order to try to find...

717
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,120
This guy...

718
00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:11,460
That it knows survived.

719
00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:13,280
So, it's not the plant killer.

720
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,120
And, so...

721
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:16,920
They've got to figure out, what

722
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,300
is this killer plant?

723
00:22:18,460 --> 00:22:19,360
What's going on?

724
00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:21,120
And, so...

725
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,640
They kill one of the killer

726
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,240
plants.

727
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,070
But, they start following the

728
00:22:25,070 --> 00:22:25,680
roots.

729
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,760
And, they manage to follow the

730
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,650
roots like this shack on the

731
00:22:29,650 --> 00:22:30,700
edge of town.

732
00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:32,780
And, instead of there being a

733
00:22:32,780 --> 00:22:34,680
hive mind plant...

734
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:35,680
There...

735
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,680
Instead...

736
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,730
They find the scientist just

737
00:22:39,730 --> 00:22:41,680
sitting in a chair...

738
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,800
With all of these vines

739
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,740
connected to him.

740
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,620
He's like, welcome.

741
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,940
I have become one with nature.

742
00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:56,800
And, the military is gonna love

743
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,360
it.

744
00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:59,080
Your town has been perfect

745
00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,940
subjects.

746
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,940
And, you will succumb to my...

747
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:03,940
Obviously, there's gonna be

748
00:23:03,940 --> 00:23:05,080
some other killings and stuff,

749
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,280
too.

750
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:05,560
But...

751
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:05,700
Yeah.

752
00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:08,220
You will succumb to my...

753
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:10,720
My plantly wiles.

754
00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:12,780
And...

755
00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:14,610
And, so, like, at some point

756
00:23:14,610 --> 00:23:16,040
there's a conflict.

757
00:23:16,260 --> 00:23:17,220
And, the people look like they're...

758
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,220
Toad...

759
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,340
Whoa.

760
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:21,860
Told you, Toad.

761
00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:22,660
Look at him go.

762
00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:23,600
Look at him go.

763
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,920
I wasn't sure if it was dead or

764
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,320
not.

765
00:23:25,380 --> 00:23:26,380
But...

766
00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:28,000
But, like...

767
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,800
It gets to the point...

768
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,850
So, they start fighting this

769
00:23:29,850 --> 00:23:30,060
guy.

770
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,380
But, he's able to use the vines...

771
00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:33,380
To, like...

772
00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:35,720
Block them from killing him.

773
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,260
And, like...

774
00:23:37,260 --> 00:23:38,800
He shoots, like, one of the

775
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,800
poisonous barbs.

776
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,720
And, like...

777
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,980
Plant Lady collapses.

778
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:43,800
You know?

779
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,920
Because, it's...

780
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,950
Like, one of the bugs that

781
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:48,040
knocks you out before it can

782
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,340
suck your blood, you know?

783
00:23:49,580 --> 00:23:49,920
Yeah.

784
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,540
So, she's collapsed.

785
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,310
The guy is at the edge of his,

786
00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:54,320
like...

787
00:23:55,780 --> 00:23:56,900
The edge of, like...

788
00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:57,660
What he could do.

789
00:23:57,740 --> 00:23:59,000
He's about to get killed by,

790
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,260
like, Scientist Guy.

791
00:24:01,460 --> 00:24:02,320
And, then...

792
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,260
The hive mind plants roots bust

793
00:24:05,260 --> 00:24:06,440
through.

794
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,930
And, a bunch of the townspeople

795
00:24:08,930 --> 00:24:10,280
along with it.

796
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:11,760
And, they have flamethrowers.

797
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,260
And, they start flamethrowers.

798
00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:14,260
And, they start flamethrowers.

799
00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:14,760
And, they start flamethrowers.

800
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:14,760
And, they start flamethrowers.

801
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:14,760
And, they start flamethrowers.

802
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,760
And, they start flamethrowers.

803
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:15,760
And, they start flamethrowers.

804
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,760
And, they start flamethrowers.

805
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,760
And, they start flamethrowers.

806
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,760
And, they start flamethrowers.

807
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,760
So, then...

808
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,760
Then, unfortunately, like...

809
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,040
The guys got all this, like,

810
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,760
explosive stuff in there, too.

811
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,100
Like, toxic gas.

812
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:31,600
And, it's like, come on.

813
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,320
We gotta get out here.

814
00:24:33,260 --> 00:24:33,760
But, no.

815
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,330
Like, the hive mind plant that's

816
00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:36,600
been our friend is gonna get

817
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,360
destroyed.

818
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,280
Nah, we gotta leave.

819
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,920
We gotta leave now.

820
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,080
No.

821
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,200
Like...

822
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,200
We...

823
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,700
No.

824
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:46,180
We gotta protect hive mind

825
00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:46,700
plant.

826
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:48,320
And, hive mind plant is like,

827
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,700
no.

828
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:49,700
Trust...

829
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:50,700
You know...

830
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:51,700
I've served my purpose.

831
00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:52,700
Go without me.

832
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:53,700
Hmm.

833
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,700
And, run, humans.

834
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:56,700
Run.

835
00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:57,700
And, so they run.

836
00:24:57,700 --> 00:24:58,700
I mean, what the...

837
00:24:58,700 --> 00:25:00,290
And, there's a massive

838
00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:01,200
explosion.

839
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,200
And, they come back.

840
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,200
So, they defeat the bad guy.

841
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,200
And, they come back to the arboretum.

842
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,700
And, all the vines are withered

843
00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:15,700
and dead.

844
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:16,700
Hmm.

845
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:17,430
All the hive mind flowers are

846
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:17,700
dead.

847
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:18,700
We're all very sad.

848
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:21,700
And, so, like...

849
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:22,200
So, like...

850
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,050
It cuts to, like, five days

851
00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:24,700
later.

852
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:25,700
Yeah.

853
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:26,630
You know, you do one of those,

854
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:27,700
like, five days later things.

855
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:28,700
Yeah.

856
00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:30,360
And, they're just finishing up,

857
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:31,200
like...

858
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,310
Taking all the vines that have

859
00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:34,200
been cut.

860
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,200
And, like, burning them.

861
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,910
And, like, the place just doesn't

862
00:25:37,910 --> 00:25:38,700
look as good.

863
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:39,700
Hmm.

864
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:40,700
And, the guy...

865
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:42,690
The guy and his wife are just,

866
00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:44,740
like, getting ready to go back

867
00:25:44,740 --> 00:25:46,700
into the arboretum where the

868
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:47,700
other plants are.

869
00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:49,700
And, they look down.

870
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:51,980
And, as they pass the corner of

871
00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:54,170
the building, like, they go

872
00:25:54,170 --> 00:25:56,280
around the corner to get into

873
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,700
the building.

874
00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:00,390
And, there's a little flower

875
00:26:00,390 --> 00:26:03,110
just starting to sprout right

876
00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:05,700
next to, like, the walkway

877
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,700
through the door.

878
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:08,700
Hmm.

879
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:09,700
And, they're...

880
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:11,520
You know, maybe they call the

881
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,700
hive mind Charlie or something.

882
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:14,700
I don't know.

883
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:15,700
Hive mind plant Charlie.

884
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:16,700
They're like...

885
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,460
And, the plant just kind of,

886
00:26:18,460 --> 00:26:20,480
like, the flower just kind of bops

887
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,240
up and down really quick like a

888
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,700
yes.

889
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:23,700
Hmm.

890
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:25,200
And, then, they look at each

891
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,700
other.

892
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:28,700
They smile warmly at each other.

893
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:30,700
Hold each other's hands.

894
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:31,700
And, go inside.

895
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:35,650
And, then, here's the evil foreshadowing

896
00:26:35,650 --> 00:26:36,700
moment.

897
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:38,700
At the end of the credits.

898
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:40,620
Where the chair where the

899
00:26:40,620 --> 00:26:42,700
scientists used to sit.

900
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:44,700
There's a small bowl.

901
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:45,700
A small what?

902
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:46,700
A small what?

903
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:47,700
A small bowl.

904
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:48,700
A small what?

905
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:49,700
A small bowl.

906
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:50,700
Bulb.

907
00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:51,700
Yeah.

908
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:53,700
Well, I think we one up that.

909
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,700
We can go more cliche than that.

910
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:58,340
So, you see this bulb that has

911
00:26:58,340 --> 00:26:59,700
a little tiny sprout.

912
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:00,700
Yeah.

913
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:02,900
But, then, whether it's

914
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:04,770
mechanical effects or visual

915
00:27:04,770 --> 00:27:05,700
effects.

916
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:07,700
Because, you know, you had

917
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:09,700
close ups of like...

918
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:10,950
Like, you had hyper close ups

919
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:12,250
of the bad guy's face at times,

920
00:27:12,250 --> 00:27:12,700
right?

921
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:13,700
Yeah.

922
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,290
So, what you do is you have the

923
00:27:16,290 --> 00:27:18,640
bulb kind of open up and inside

924
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,000
is the bad guy's eye just like

925
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,700
kind of looking around.

926
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:24,870
And, you hear like kind of a

927
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:27,700
maniacal laugh from the bad guy.

928
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:28,700
Yeah.

929
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:30,700
There we go.

930
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:31,700
Okay.

931
00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:33,700
So, I think that, you know what?

932
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:34,700
Your idea is great.

933
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:35,700
This is a good idea.

934
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:36,700
Mm-hmm.

935
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:38,380
The question I have for you

936
00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:39,700
though is...

937
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:40,700
Okay.

938
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:41,700
So, we got a basic plot.

939
00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:42,700
Yeah.

940
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:44,700
We've got a concept.

941
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:45,700
We've...

942
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:46,700
You know what?

943
00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:47,950
I think between the two of us,

944
00:27:47,950 --> 00:27:49,200
this is, again, one of those

945
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,700
things that Hollywood...

946
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:51,700
Look, if you...

947
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:52,700
Should do.

948
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:55,520
If you're looking for ideas, we'll

949
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,790
be happy to sell this idea for

950
00:27:57,790 --> 00:27:59,950
you for the low, low cost of

951
00:27:59,950 --> 00:28:01,700
what? 55,000?

952
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:02,700
Yeah.

953
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:04,120
Well, you know, but just keep

954
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:05,320
in mind that you have to act

955
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,650
soon because as we go through

956
00:28:06,650 --> 00:28:07,700
this walk...

957
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:08,700
Inflation.

958
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:09,700
Inflation.

959
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:10,880
So, by the time we're done with

960
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,950
this walk, it's going to be

961
00:28:11,950 --> 00:28:12,700
like a million.

962
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:13,700
Just for the idea.

963
00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:14,700
Maybe even five.

964
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:15,700
Yeah.

965
00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:16,700
If you're not.

966
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:17,700
Just for the idea.

967
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,700
Hypothetical, a million dollar.

968
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:20,700
Like this is...

969
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:21,780
You know, you can make this

970
00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:22,700
movie on the cheap.

971
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:23,960
You can make this movie for

972
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,320
like, you know, five to ten

973
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,700
million dollars easy.

974
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:27,700
Yeah.

975
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:28,330
And just make hundreds of

976
00:28:28,330 --> 00:28:28,700
millions.

977
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:31,310
You could get tenfold what you

978
00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:33,700
invested in pure profit.

979
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:34,700
Exactly.

980
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:35,700
And all...

981
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:36,700
And all...

982
00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:37,210
All stack quickly before

983
00:28:37,210 --> 00:28:37,700
inflation...

984
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:38,910
And all we're asking is, you

985
00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:40,270
know, a low, low writer's cost

986
00:28:40,270 --> 00:28:41,700
of a million dollars...

987
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:42,700
60...

988
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:43,700
To the right.

989
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,700
And, you know, 5% of the gross.

990
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:47,700
That's all we're looking for.

991
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:48,700
Yeah.

992
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:49,700
It's not that much, really.

993
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:50,700
No, not really.

994
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:51,700
I mean, we're well worth it.

995
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:52,700
All right.

996
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:54,700
So, we workshopped the movie.

997
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:55,700
Yeah.

998
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:56,660
Which I think again,

999
00:28:56,660 --> 00:28:57,990
congratulations, this was a

1000
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:58,700
great idea.

1001
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:00,820
You gotta come up with a type

1002
00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:01,700
of name.

1003
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,220
You're not gonna sell it

1004
00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:04,700
without a good name.

1005
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:06,600
But if you want it to sound

1006
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,690
like a bad movie, I already

1007
00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:10,700
have two names for you.

1008
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:11,700
Okay.

1009
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:12,700
So, you could...

1010
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:14,860
You could just simply call it

1011
00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:16,700
The Parlor of Plants.

1012
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:17,700
Or...

1013
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:19,700
Wait, what was the first one?

1014
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:21,300
If you want it to sound okay,

1015
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:22,970
you could call it The Parlor of

1016
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:23,700
Plants.

1017
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:24,700
The Parlor of Plants?

1018
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:26,630
Okay, that's got a good 1950s,

1019
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:27,700
60s vibe to it.

1020
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:29,470
But if you want it to sound

1021
00:29:29,470 --> 00:29:31,560
like a bad MST 3K movie, you

1022
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,430
could call it Attack of the

1023
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:34,700
Killer Weeds.

1024
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:37,250
Well, I mean, Parlor of Plants

1025
00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:38,700
also fits that.

1026
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:39,700
Let's be honest.

1027
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:40,700
Yeah.

1028
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:41,700
Hmm.

1029
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:43,700
You know what?

1030
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:45,700
I think we can simplify this.

1031
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,700
Just call it Vines.

1032
00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:50,860
I mean, it's probably been done

1033
00:29:50,860 --> 00:29:51,700
already.

1034
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,180
The name's probably been taken,

1035
00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:54,440
but I'm just gonna say like,

1036
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,700
just calling it Vines.

1037
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:57,470
Because then that implies that

1038
00:29:57,470 --> 00:29:59,220
like, the hive mind thing with

1039
00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:00,750
all the vines that you see in

1040
00:30:00,750 --> 00:30:03,700
the beginning is actually...

1041
00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:04,700
The evil.

1042
00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:05,700
You know?

1043
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,460
I mean, really, the vines are

1044
00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:09,700
its roots.

1045
00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:10,700
Yeah.

1046
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:11,700
Yeah.

1047
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:14,000
By the way, we also have to rig

1048
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,830
it up so that like, evil

1049
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:18,700
scientist man looks like...

1050
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:20,530
What we gotta do is, he has to

1051
00:30:20,530 --> 00:30:22,540
purchase one of the like, hive

1052
00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:23,700
mind plants.

1053
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:24,700
Yeah.

1054
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:26,380
And what we don't know is, he

1055
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:28,130
took it back to his private lab

1056
00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:29,700
and experimented on it.

1057
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,620
We just see him planting it and

1058
00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:33,700
that the coloration is slightly

1059
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:34,700
different.

1060
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:35,700
Yeah.

1061
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,310
But there's no explanation as

1062
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:39,700
to anything.

1063
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:41,070
So you have it, you still have

1064
00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:42,700
it so that the audience...

1065
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:45,880
The audience believes that it's

1066
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,700
the same plant.

1067
00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:48,700
Yeah.

1068
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:50,700
Same hive mind plant.

1069
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:51,700
You know?

1070
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:52,700
But, uh...

1071
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:55,020
So yeah, I mean, I like the

1072
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:57,700
idea of Vines being the name.

1073
00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:59,700
Ooh, Hive Vine.

1074
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,740
Instead of hive mind, do you

1075
00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:04,700
use hive vines?

1076
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:05,700
No.

1077
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:08,700
That's not good for a name.

1078
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,250
for a name. The plant that

1079
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:19,500
saved America. Beware of toads.

1080
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:25,620
There may be toads. There's a

1081
00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:25,940
cricket

1082
00:31:25,940 --> 00:31:28,750
over there too. I mean, you

1083
00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:31,660
could, if you wanted to go like

1084
00:31:31,660 --> 00:31:34,480
the kind of like interesting

1085
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:34,720
route,

1086
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,540
so like if you had the plant's

1087
00:31:36,540 --> 00:31:38,510
name be Charlie or something,

1088
00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:40,760
you'd just call it Charlie. But

1089
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,480
I don't know that that, that

1090
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,990
would get people in. Yeah. But

1091
00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:47,140
really, I think this is a good

1092
00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:49,390
idea. I think your concept is

1093
00:31:49,390 --> 00:31:51,630
good. I think. Or you could

1094
00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:53,710
call it Charlie's Parlor.

1095
00:31:53,710 --> 00:31:55,870
Charlie's Parlor. Hey, or

1096
00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:58,370
Charlie's Arboretum. Yeah. I

1097
00:31:58,370 --> 00:32:00,510
like it. I like it. That's

1098
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:02,400
because then people are

1099
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,700
wondering like the whole time.

1100
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:06,370
Like wait, like the guy who's

1101
00:32:06,370 --> 00:32:08,370
running the Arboretum, his name's

1102
00:32:08,370 --> 00:32:10,050
not Charlie. And his wife's

1103
00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:11,730
name isn't like Charlize or

1104
00:32:11,730 --> 00:32:13,430
anything that could be mistaken

1105
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:15,450
for Charlie. Who the hell is

1106
00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:17,330
Charlie? Or if you want to go

1107
00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:19,310
even like, if you want to sound

1108
00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:20,990
more formal, you could say

1109
00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:23,020
Charles is, but Charlie sounds

1110
00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:25,120
better. Yeah. The two sila,

1111
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,520
like it, Charles. Like it's, it

1112
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,010
just doesn't roll off the

1113
00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:30,490
tongue the same way. And

1114
00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:32,540
Charlie makes it sound friendly.

1115
00:32:32,540 --> 00:32:34,680
Yeah. Like you don't, you don't,

1116
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,630
Like, oh, oh, Charles. Like you're

1117
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:37,750
not going to call it Chuck

1118
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:39,650
either. Like, come on. Like you're

1119
00:32:39,650 --> 00:32:40,930
not going to be like Chuck's

1120
00:32:40,930 --> 00:32:42,390
Parlor. Like who cares about

1121
00:32:42,390 --> 00:32:44,350
Chuck's Parlor? Yeah. No. Or

1122
00:32:44,350 --> 00:32:46,010
Chuck's Arboretum. Like it's

1123
00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:47,820
just, it's not Charlie. Sounds

1124
00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:49,060
nice and friendly.

1125
00:32:49,060 --> 00:32:51,200
You know, it gives a little bit

1126
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,330
of an air of like openness, but

1127
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:55,220
it doesn't exactly say that

1128
00:32:55,220 --> 00:32:57,430
Charlie is truly friendly. It

1129
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:59,320
just is a friendly sounding

1130
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,010
name. Yeah. I like it. You know,

1131
00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:04,380
I think your, your initial idea

1132
00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:07,380
plus, um, a couple of, you know,

1133
00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:08,040
like,

1134
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680
our creative... A couple of

1135
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,160
additions, like our creative

1136
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,840
input together here, usually

1137
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,480
has this

1138
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,900
impact. We've got a... Look. We

1139
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:17,370
have a good movie idea. We've

1140
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:18,560
got a good movie here,

1141
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,480
Hollywood.

1142
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,750
And look, just for the low, low

1143
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:24,560
cost of $2.5 million plus 8% of

1144
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,740
the overhead,

1145
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,750
this idea could be yours. It's

1146
00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:31,910
really not that big of a cost.

1147
00:33:31,910 --> 00:33:33,940
No, I mean, again, this is a

1148
00:33:33,940 --> 00:33:34,300
movie

1149
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:36,240
you can make using old school

1150
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,360
movie techniques with a little

1151
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,060
bit of CGI, like well-intentioned,

1152
00:33:41,140 --> 00:33:42,440
well-thought-out. You've got to

1153
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,490
have a good director. The

1154
00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:44,700
director's got to know how to

1155
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:45,580
use a great

1156
00:33:45,580 --> 00:33:48,840
combination of practical and CG

1157
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,610
together to really be

1158
00:33:51,610 --> 00:33:54,340
intentional about the shots.

1159
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,080
But I think that this could

1160
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,210
work. And besides, you don't

1161
00:33:58,210 --> 00:34:00,030
even really have to have the

1162
00:34:00,030 --> 00:34:00,740
hive mind

1163
00:34:00,740 --> 00:34:03,370
plant Charlie actually like be

1164
00:34:03,370 --> 00:34:05,890
like speaking like Audrey too

1165
00:34:05,890 --> 00:34:08,160
does. Like you could do it

1166
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,240
completely

1167
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:11,110
via telepathy. Yeah. But the

1168
00:34:11,110 --> 00:34:12,870
plant just kind of maybe pulses

1169
00:34:12,870 --> 00:34:14,610
in line with what it's saying

1170
00:34:14,610 --> 00:34:15,500
or thinking.

1171
00:34:15,740 --> 00:34:16,960
Yep. And that can, that can all

1172
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,210
be done practical effects. I

1173
00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:19,510
mean, you just have like this

1174
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:19,860
really

1175
00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:21,490
nice plant. You get some glycerin

1176
00:34:21,490 --> 00:34:22,940
on it. So it looks like it, you

1177
00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:24,440
know, you do some foam rubber

1178
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:24,800
stuff.

1179
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,120
I mean, you could even just

1180
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,420
have it be a glowing light. I

1181
00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:28,830
mean, you could, but you don't

1182
00:34:28,830 --> 00:34:29,360
want to go

1183
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,230
that cheap. This is, you know,

1184
00:34:31,230 --> 00:34:32,910
we are in the era of, you know,

1185
00:34:32,910 --> 00:34:34,750
good movie making effects. But

1186
00:34:34,750 --> 00:34:35,440
I would say

1187
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,800
that like you make the main

1188
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,180
plant, it doesn't even have to

1189
00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:39,710
be a pod. It could be something

1190
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:40,340
else, but

1191
00:34:40,340 --> 00:34:41,890
like you make it have a unique

1192
00:34:41,890 --> 00:34:43,750
look to it. You do the coloration

1193
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:46,060
really good. You add some glycerin.

1194
00:34:46,060 --> 00:34:46,260
So

1195
00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:48,100
it kind of like, you know,

1196
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,100
shines a little bit and you add

1197
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,100
some air bladders to it so that

1198
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:52,920
it, you know,

1199
00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:55,010
can like kind of pulsate and

1200
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:57,830
move. And there you go. You don't

1201
00:34:57,830 --> 00:35:00,210
even have to like, I mean, and

1202
00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:00,920
you can

1203
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,300
enhance it digitally a little

1204
00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:03,600
bit. Like you can make it so

1205
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,020
that the pulses are better time

1206
00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:05,680
to what it's

1207
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,620
thinking. Yeah. Um, you know,

1208
00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:08,760
you could add a little bit of

1209
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,440
ambiance, like add some extra

1210
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,360
mist and smoke in

1211
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,370
the room. Yeah. That's more

1212
00:35:14,370 --> 00:35:16,600
controlled. You know, you could

1213
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,720
do stuff like that, but like,

1214
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:19,240
this is not

1215
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,580
a VFX heavy movie. And it's

1216
00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:23,980
something that you could do

1217
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:26,620
like relatively inexpensively,

1218
00:35:26,620 --> 00:35:27,640
like a vine

1219
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,480
wrapping around somebody. You

1220
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,240
just roll the camera with the

1221
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:32,780
vine already wrapped around

1222
00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:33,820
them. And then

1223
00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:35,180
you pull it off of them and you

1224
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:36,550
play it in reverse. Like this

1225
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:37,930
is, this is something that's

1226
00:35:37,930 --> 00:35:38,680
been done for

1227
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,300
generations. Yeah. That's not

1228
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:43,530
that hard. You want to shoot a

1229
00:35:43,530 --> 00:35:46,100
barb out of the plant. You tie,

1230
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:47,780
you have a, like you have

1231
00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:49,800
fishing line attached to the

1232
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,790
barb. That's like ready to go

1233
00:35:51,790 --> 00:35:53,180
in like the vine.

1234
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,870
You do a shot of the barb

1235
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:57,130
flying out. You do a shot of

1236
00:35:57,130 --> 00:35:58,860
like it being stuck in the

1237
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:00,020
person's neck

1238
00:36:00,020 --> 00:36:02,060
and you use VFX to erase the

1239
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,920
fishing line. Yeah. It's just,

1240
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,120
this is, look, this is gold

1241
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:07,940
here.

1242
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:10,110
We're, we are telling you, you

1243
00:36:10,110 --> 00:36:12,200
can make this movie for $12

1244
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,610
million. All right. You make

1245
00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:15,480
the movie for

1246
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,140
$12 million. You advertise it,

1247
00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:20,110
you know, using grassroots

1248
00:36:20,110 --> 00:36:22,420
advertising. Like you, you pay

1249
00:36:22,420 --> 00:36:22,840
some

1250
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,790
YouTubers. You invite all the

1251
00:36:25,790 --> 00:36:28,750
big TikTok influencers that are

1252
00:36:28,750 --> 00:36:31,290
into horror films and B films

1253
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:32,200
to like a

1254
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,830
special screening and they go

1255
00:36:33,830 --> 00:36:35,370
nuts and talk about it. And

1256
00:36:35,370 --> 00:36:37,200
they'll, they'll come for free

1257
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,760
because you

1258
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,010
know, they want it for the

1259
00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:41,760
content. Like you're just like,

1260
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,980
you send an invite to all of

1261
00:36:42,980 --> 00:36:44,060
the horror film,

1262
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:45,750
TikTokers and Instagrammers and

1263
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:47,490
red letter media. Oh yeah. And

1264
00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:48,750
you got to have red letter

1265
00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:49,260
media,

1266
00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:50,840
like do an interview with you,

1267
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,230
you know, and maybe for the

1268
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:53,750
visual effects, like for the

1269
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:54,620
times that you

1270
00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:56,230
are using them, because you

1271
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:57,830
will use them, give the raw

1272
00:36:57,830 --> 00:36:59,160
footage and the complete

1273
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,540
breakdowns of how you do

1274
00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:03,010
everything to corridor digital.

1275
00:37:03,010 --> 00:37:05,560
Yeah, obviously. Or better yet,

1276
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,700
hire corridor digital to do the

1277
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:08,380
effects

1278
00:37:08,380 --> 00:37:09,870
for you and work with them.

1279
00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:11,410
Well, to help do the effects

1280
00:37:11,410 --> 00:37:13,120
anyway. Yeah. To help do the

1281
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,900
effects.

1282
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:16,380
Obviously you need a good like

1283
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:18,750
onsite, like effects team as

1284
00:37:18,750 --> 00:37:20,980
well to do like the latex and

1285
00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:21,580
stuff

1286
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:23,260
and to make the vines and

1287
00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:25,470
whatnot. But look, this is a

1288
00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:28,830
low budget movie. I mean, you

1289
00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:30,700
play your cards,

1290
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:33,480
right. You can get, like I said,

1291
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080
10 times, maybe even more,

1292
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,610
maybe 15 times your initial

1293
00:37:38,610 --> 00:37:40,380
investment. Of

1294
00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:42,910
course. And this idea can be

1295
00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:45,530
yours for the low, low costs of

1296
00:37:45,530 --> 00:37:49,240
$3.25 million. Uh, plus, you

1297
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:49,740
know,

1298
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:52,420
5% of the gross. Yeah. Yeah. I

1299
00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:54,500
think that's, I think that's

1300
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,190
fair. You know, we've workshopped

1301
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:57,660
this

1302
00:37:57,660 --> 00:37:59,460
for you. We've come up with all

1303
00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:01,280
the characters. We've come up

1304
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,550
with a lot of the design

1305
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:03,420
aspects.

1306
00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:05,440
We've really done all of the

1307
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,720
work. We might even have some

1308
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,720
more design aspects in the, in

1309
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:11,020
the

1310
00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:14,890
picture for this podcast. Yeah.

1311
00:38:14,890 --> 00:38:18,700
So again, Charlie's Arboretum.

1312
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:22,620
Charlie's Parlor. Charlie's Parlor,

1313
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:24,970
Charlie's Arboretum. Yeah. You

1314
00:38:24,970 --> 00:38:27,150
know, we like this. Uh, we, we

1315
00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:29,340
think that this could be a huge,

1316
00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:29,660
huge

1317
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:32,060
deal for, you know, independent

1318
00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:34,440
film in Hollywood. And, uh, we

1319
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,250
really think that even if a

1320
00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:37,180
small studio

1321
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:39,110
were to pick this up, it would

1322
00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:41,190
be a huge success. Yeah. I mean,

1323
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:43,260
you make bank. You make bank. I

1324
00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:43,820
mean,

1325
00:38:43,820 --> 00:38:45,880
we start production, pre-production.

1326
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,250
Now we start the planning and

1327
00:38:47,250 --> 00:38:49,020
the storyboarding and all that.

1328
00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:50,970
We start that now. We could

1329
00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:52,980
have this out by, uh, October

1330
00:38:52,980 --> 00:38:55,810
of 2026. Easy. Yeah. And just

1331
00:38:55,810 --> 00:38:56,300
to give you an

1332
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:58,200
idea, I mean, we're recording

1333
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,610
this in August of 2025. So, I

1334
00:39:00,610 --> 00:39:02,570
mean, you know, you've got just

1335
00:39:02,570 --> 00:39:03,420
over a year of

1336
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:05,310
leeway on this before the

1337
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,610
release date. You get us

1338
00:39:06,610 --> 00:39:08,770
together with the right people.

1339
00:39:08,770 --> 00:39:09,900
You get the right

1340
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:11,590
team put together. You can make

1341
00:39:11,590 --> 00:39:13,600
this happen easily. Yeah. There's

1342
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,420
not going to be like a huge

1343
00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:16,380
amount of

1344
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:18,350
dialogue. There's not going to

1345
00:39:18,350 --> 00:39:19,960
be like, this is just a good

1346
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,860
old fashioned beef though, you

1347
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:22,700
know? Yeah.

1348
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:26,330
But it will make a lot of money.

1349
00:39:26,330 --> 00:39:28,310
Make a lot of money. So,

1350
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:31,730
speaking of money, if you get

1351
00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:32,940
any value

1352
00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:34,620
out of our crazy ideas and what

1353
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:36,510
we talk about with this podcast,

1354
00:39:36,510 --> 00:39:38,260
please feel free to show equal

1355
00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:38,540
value

1356
00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:43,940
in return by going to ko-fi.com/nontopical .

1357
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:46,860
I mean, if you, if you get a

1358
00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:50,190
dollar of entertainment, shoot

1359
00:39:50,190 --> 00:39:51,740
us a dollar. If you get more

1360
00:39:51,740 --> 00:39:52,940
than that, shoot us whatever

1361
00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:53,740
amount you want.

1362
00:39:54,140 --> 00:39:55,630
Come up with funny numbers. We

1363
00:39:55,630 --> 00:39:57,490
appreciate the funny numbers.

1364
00:39:57,490 --> 00:39:59,660
Yeah. But I mean, granted, we're

1365
00:39:59,660 --> 00:40:01,200
doing this for fun. We just

1366
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,420
chat while we walk and

1367
00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:04,070
occasionally we come with an

1368
00:40:04,070 --> 00:40:05,830
agenda, but most of the time we

1369
00:40:05,830 --> 00:40:07,390
don't. And we eventually

1370
00:40:07,390 --> 00:40:09,160
stumble upon something that's

1371
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,840
fun. So if you're having fun

1372
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,670
with us, please let us know.

1373
00:40:12,670 --> 00:40:14,020
And one of the ways you can

1374
00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:15,670
show us value is by sending us

1375
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:17,100
feedback. It costs you

1376
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:18,950
absolutely nothing except for a

1377
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:21,040
few moments of your time. 

1378
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,340
feedback@nontopical.com .

1379
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:26,250
So, with that, Charlie's,

1380
00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:29,230
Charlie's Arboretum or Charlie's

1381
00:40:29,230 --> 00:40:32,070
Parlor comes to a close. Yeah.

1382
00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:33,680
And we hope that you enjoyed

1383
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,510
this, this brand new V-film in

1384
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:37,360
Hollywood. Like, if you're

1385
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,340
listening, just think about how

1386
00:40:39,340 --> 00:40:41,240
inexpensive we are compared to

1387
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,310
all of the focus groups and

1388
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:44,470
everything else that you're

1389
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:47,000
doing, you know? We're working

1390
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,060
on the cheap. You know, we're

1391
00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:52,590
here for you. So, until next

1392
00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:53,420
time.

1393
00:40:53,420 --> 00:40:57,070
Roll credits. Roll credits. Kit,

1394
00:40:57,070 --> 00:40:59,070
do you have anything else to

1395
00:40:59,070 --> 00:41:02,610
say? We love Charlie. Yes, we

1396
00:41:02,610 --> 00:41:03,280
love Charlie.

1397
00:41:03,860 --> 00:41:05,540
Alright everybody, thanks. Have

1398
00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:07,050
a great rest of your day,

1399
00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:09,250
evening, or whatever. We'll see

1400
00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:11,480
you next time. Bye!

1401
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,480
Bye!